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Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209381#msg1209381
« on: October 09, 2015, 10:06:45 AM »
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Aethonos [Time-Aether]
COST:
3
TYPE:
Spell
TEXT:
Reveal the top 3 cards of target deck, pick one and add a copy of it to your hand
NAME:
Foresight
ELEMENT:
Aethonos [Time-Aether]
COST:
2
TYPE:
Spell
TEXT:
Reveal the top 3 cards of target deck, pick one and add a copy of it to your hand

ART:
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IDEA:
Treldon
NOTES:
On casting the spell the draw animation is played but with 3 cards. You can view them (let's say 15-20 seconds), then they are returned to the deck they came from. Iin that time you may select one of the three cards and add a copy to your hand (like Mindgate)
(First idea was to take the selected card, effectively having extra draw if you targeted your deck, stealing if you targeted the opponent)
SERIES:
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« Last Edit: October 09, 2015, 11:34:19 AM by Treldon »
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Re: Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209383#msg1209383
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2015, 10:12:35 AM »
Seems to me like it costs way too much for how little it does.
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Re: Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209386#msg1209386
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2015, 10:33:26 AM »
Perhaps a cut in cost is a good idea. 2|3 perhaps?
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Re: Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209392#msg1209392
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2015, 10:59:32 AM »
Perhaps a cut in cost is a good idea. 2|3 perhaps?
I'd say 1/3. Unupped does almost nothin. I'd even use 0 cost for it.
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Re: Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209393#msg1209393
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2015, 11:03:21 AM »
I'd say 1/3. Unupped does almost nothin. I'd even use 0 cost for it.

I'd disagree with unupped doing nothing. It lets you know what you or your opponent will get on next 3 draws so you can play accordingly. Works especially well with Precognition
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Re: Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209394#msg1209394
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2015, 11:07:37 AM »
I'd say 1/3. Unupped does almost nothin. I'd even use 0 cost for it.

I'd disagree with unupped doing nothing. It lets you know what you or your opponent will get on next 3 draws so you can play accordingly. Works especially well with Precognition
It simply doesn't fit in any deck. Upped is pretty cool, I admit that.
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Re: Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209395#msg1209395
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2015, 11:34:30 AM »
I don't really like the idea of giving unupped for free, so it's 1|3 for now.
Scrub that.

Now unupped and upped both have card copy effect for 3|2
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Re: Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209396#msg1209396
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2015, 11:36:44 AM »
Much better than the previous iteration and a really good blend of how :aether and :time would work on a single card. Well done, IMHO.

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Re: Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209397#msg1209397
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2015, 11:38:51 AM »
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Scary idea, I'd admit. One thing, though: what they will show when there are less than three cards in the target deck?

Insight-specific
If the AI plays it, true, it pretty much does nothing. In a match between two skilled players, though, it's another story.

Its value, methinks, is about as good as the enemy's deck; a shoddily-built opposing deck will give you no significant insights on what they're actually up to, pun intended.

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Re: Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209398#msg1209398
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2015, 11:51:33 AM »
I think the cost should be higher by 2, On the other side, this card is a little overpowered, how about only revealing the top 2 cards?
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Re: Insight | Foresight http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59926.msg1209399#msg1209399
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2015, 12:02:29 PM »
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Scary idea, I'd admit. One thing, though: what they will show when there are less than three cards in the target deck?

Then it will simply show the cards that are in the deck, either showing only two or two + a blank / 1 or 1 + 2 blanks. Depends on coding.

I think the cost should be higher by 2, On the other side, this card is a little overpowered, how about only revealing the top 2 cards?

As it only shows the next 3 draws, you can't completely predict what the opponent will do as they still have their hand, so I wouldn't call it OP.
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