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Energy Staff | Energy Scepter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1210574#msg1210574
« on: October 16, 2015, 03:07:13 am »
NAME:
Energy Staff
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
5 | 3 when flying
TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 5 damage at the end of every turn
:aether : Charge
Now deals spell damage
NAME:
Energy Scepter
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
4
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
7 | 3 when flying
TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 7 damage at the end of every turn
:aether : Charge
Now deals spell damage

ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
Idea of switching from normal damage to spell damage.

Charge is meant to be in the sense of "charging a battery" in case of confusion about thematics. A clearer ability name would be nice.

I'm not sure how to balance Other weapons (or Other in general), so if this is broken, that's pretty cool. Halp.
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Re: Energy Staff | Energy Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1210598#msg1210598
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2015, 06:43:22 am »
It's cheap for 5|7 damage. I'd say it's price should be comparable to OE|EE (5 :air|6 :air) due to doing same damage and having active ability, so it should be at least 6 :chroma|6 :chroma in my opinion
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Re: Energy Staff | Energy Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1210602#msg1210602
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2015, 07:33:29 am »
While this is easily played with Nova/Snova, you still have to compare it to Titan. It has nothing in common with OE and will be played mostly in Cremation/Nova rushes. Animates optional, but it's a good alternative to Gavel if you choose to focus your deck on it. MA can also utilize it, of course, or any deck that needs a bit of shield bypass and can't afford to commit to it (Life, Light, etc.).

Titan is 5 for 7 and 5 for 8, but Momentum is better than spell damage. The cost is in line with Titan, so it's perfectly fine.
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Re: Energy Staff | Energy Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1211910#msg1211910
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2015, 05:13:29 am »
Digging this up again after like a week.

1st: Is the ability name fine?

Charge is meant to be in the sense of "charging a battery" in case of confusion about thematics. A clearer ability name would be nice.

2nd: Should it maybe get a little +1|+0 the turns it uses spell damage (see Paladin already in Cygnia)?

3rd: Is this thing even useful like I made it due to a random burst of ideas in chat, but now I'm starting to doubt that it even fills a niche.

it's a good alternative to Gavel if you choose to focus your deck on it.

Makes this seem a bit weak doesn't it? It has to have a deck focused around it to be on par with Gavel?

I dunno, maybe I'm overthinking it.
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Re: Energy Staff | Energy Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1211962#msg1211962
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2015, 04:32:09 pm »
openEtG has a similar weapon, although it was implemented to be more like Hammer and Bow. The spell damage was automatic, it did a bit less damage and got a bonus from users who had a :water or :life mark I believe.

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Re: Energy Staff | Energy Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1211986#msg1211986
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2015, 08:39:14 pm »


Ooh I like this one :D

EDIT: Well, this computer isn't agreeing with me. I shall update image later.

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Re: Energy Staff | Energy Staff https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1212025#msg1212025
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2015, 01:08:31 am »
it's a good alternative to Gavel if you choose to focus your deck on it.

Makes this seem a bit weak doesn't it? It has to have a deck focused around it to be on par with Gavel?

I dunno, maybe I'm overthinking it.
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With that in mind, I think it'd deserve a cost buff where the ability is one-time use and the effect permanent, much like lycanthrope. That would both let you add some cheap Aether cards in a simple mark splash deck and make it noticeably better in a nova rush.
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Re: Energy Staff | Energy Scepter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1212030#msg1212030
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2015, 01:26:34 am »
Updated, got the images to work yay.

Would've made the Charge wording better to match Lycan, but not enough room I think. Unless I break from the standard weapon text. Which I guess I could. But bleh.
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Re: Energy Staff | Energy Scepter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1212042#msg1212042
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2015, 02:23:36 am »


Can't use "Deal spell damage, permanently", otherwise it won't fit, but this is good enough, I guess?

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Re: Energy Staff | Energy Scepter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1212134#msg1212134
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2015, 06:54:53 pm »
The damage output is still a little too high on the unupgraded version I think.
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Re: Energy Staff | Energy Scepter https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60075.msg1212168#msg1212168
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2015, 11:50:21 pm »
Keep in mind nobody ever uses the unupped Other weapons. They should be buffed, and so I wouldn't nerf this Staff either.
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