Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate

[Nepycros]

NAME: Ancient Doorway ELEMENT: Time COST: 8 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Shield: Reduce physical damage by 4. Generate 1 Ancient Key and 2 False Keys when summoned	NAME: Ancient Gate ELEMENT: Time COST: 7 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Shield: Reduce physical damage by 4. Generate 1 Ancient Key and 2 False Keys when summoned

ART: Krava IDEA: Nepycros NOTES: Read up on the Ancient Keys and False Keys SERIES:

NAME: Ancient Key ELEMENT: Time COST: TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0|1 TEXT: If Ancient Doorway is in play when Ancient Key is removed from play, destroy Ancient Doorway	NAME: Ancient Key ELEMENT: Time COST: TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0|3 TEXT: If Ancient Gate is in play when Ancient Key is removed from play, destroy Ancient Gate

ART: Krava IDEA: Nepycros NOTES: This is not a standalone card. It can only be generated by Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate. When Ancient Key is removed from play, Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate is immediately destroyed, even if protected by Enchant Artifact. This means that this shield is vulnerable to Permanent Control and Creature Control (but reduced chance of successful destruction thanks to False Key) SERIES:

NAME: False Key ELEMENT: Time COST: TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0|1 TEXT: False Key will appear to be an Ancient Key to the opponent when summoned	NAME: False Key ELEMENT: Time COST: TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0|3 TEXT: False Key will appear to be Ancient Key to the opponent when summoned

ART: Krava IDEA: Nepycros NOTES: This is not a standalone card. It can only be generated by Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate. When Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate is played, one Ancient Key and two False Keys will immediately be summoned, in random order. False Key will appear to be identical to Ancient Key to confuse the opponent. Any stat changes to Ancient Key will not apply to False Key, and vice versa. Destroying False Key simply triggers normal death effects. SERIES:

[ZephyrPhantom]

Clever idea, it's a strong shield that's vulnerable to CC, especially AoE kind.  The card feels a little too expensive though - I'd recommend lowering the cost to 7  | 6  .

[Nepycros]

That was my original intent, but then I realized that it was spawning 3 very real creatures that are able to be buffed or used as fodder for various effects.

[ZephyrPhantom]

That was my original intent, but then I realized that it was spawning 3 very real creatures that are able to be buffed or used as fodder for various effects.

Oh right, that's a good point. I suppose that the cost is justified then.

[funerallaughter]

What would the purpose of false key be, then, if everyone can tell which is false or not? Or will only the caster know?
Seems to work well with Anubis, nevertheless

[ZephyrPhantom]

What would the purpose of false key be, then, if everyone can tell which is false or not? Or will only the caster know?
Seems to work well with Anubis, nevertheless

Read the description please. False Key looks like an Ancient Key to the opponent.

[Nepycros]

I got the idea while playing this weird game about constructing a key to get through various Egyptian/Mayan Gates. It was so awesome, I decided I'd use it. Then I thought of Flayne's card Pepper's Ghosts, and realized, what better way to make an enigma card than by making cards that confuses the opponent when he tries to use CC?

[QuantumT]

I think Ancient Key needs to be tweaked to when it leaves the field, otherwise you just RT it and the vulnerability is gone.

Also, what happens if there isn't room for the keys, or not enough room for all 3?

[Nepycros]

I think Ancient Key needs to be tweaked to when it leaves the field, otherwise you just RT it and the vulnerability is gone.

Also, what happens if there isn't room for the keys, or not enough room for all 3?

Hmm, in that case... I'd say this shield oughta be changed to, "If there is no Ancient Key in play, Ancient Gate is destroyed"

Now, for the fractal abuse. . .

[QuantumT]

I think Ancient Key needs to be tweaked to when it leaves the field, otherwise you just RT it and the vulnerability is gone.

Also, what happens if there isn't room for the keys, or not enough room for all 3?

Hmm, in that case... I'd say this shield oughta be changed to, "If there is no Ancient Key in play, Ancient Gate is destroyed"

Now, for the fractal abuse. . .

I would tweak that to "No Ancient Key on your side of the field, etc" just so your opponent's key doesn't sustain your shield.

I don't know if fractal is too much of a problem because it still requires an expensive card from a different element and then playing the keys, but if you're concerned about it you could just make the key expensive enough to play that fractalling it isn't really an option.

[Nepycros]

Or make a passive skill for Ancient Key so there can only be one on your side of the field at any time.

[funerallaughter]

What would the purpose of false key be, then, if everyone can tell which is false or not? Or will only the caster know?
Seems to work well with Anubis, nevertheless

Read the description please. False Key looks like an Ancient Key to the opponent.

haha well, sorry bout that, I read the first Art/Idea/Notes and thought the page was done    ; my chief concern really is that what happens if the field is full? or even missing only 1 or 2 creatures? i type slow haha

if only the amount needed fills up the board, so wouldn't Ancient Key need to enter the field first allowing the opponent which one's the real key by board position?

Next, as it seems, what happens if you TU or Fractal the real key and play them? would all of them need to be killed?

If you play Ancient Doorway and it gets stolen, would the keys follow or would new one appear or would the keys stay on your side and still affect the opponent?

if a new doorway is played, would it make three new keys or use that last set? would the doorway be subjected to the last set's key's demise as well?

i'm sorry for all the questions X3