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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475153#msg475153
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2012, 08:20:38 pm »
I like this change to this card. I've always seen fire as a warrior's element and this to me says "Lets fight, give me your best shot!" which is right up fire's thematic alley. This card will have a multitude of uses in it's current form, from speeding up combo decks, to forcing a discard in pestal decks. While not the most upfont with intentions, I actually think this is one of the more ingenious shard ideas.

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475425#msg475425
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2012, 02:10:25 pm »
I've already stated that I prefer Courage as the name, but I wonder if the ability would be more interesting this way:

"Your opponent draws 2 cards. Draw an equal amount of cards, one additional if your mark is :fire ."

Just a thought.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475433#msg475433
« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2012, 03:21:06 pm »
I've already stated that I prefer Courage as the name, but I wonder if the ability would be more interesting this way:

"Your opponent draws 2 cards. Draw an equal amount of cards, one additional if your mark is :fire ."




ermm, aren't the effects the same?? your opponents still draw like you. i don really see the difference...

Just a thought.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475439#msg475439
« Reply #99 on: March 29, 2012, 03:34:32 pm »
I've already stated that I prefer Courage as the name, but I wonder if the ability would be more interesting this way:

"Your opponent draws 2 cards. Draw an equal amount of cards, one additional if your mark is :fire ."




ermm, aren't the effects the same?? your opponents still draw like you. i don really see the difference...

Just a thought.
no. you can only draw as much as your opponent and if you have mark of  :fire, that number of cards potentially rises to 3 instead of 2. With the version Napalm suggested, if you have mark of  :fire at least you gat one extra card than your opponent, effectivily giving you card advantage

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475441#msg475441
« Reply #100 on: March 29, 2012, 03:39:32 pm »
Well I dont co

no. you can only draw as much as your opponent and if you have mark of  :fire, that number of cards potentially rises to 3 instead of 2. With the version Napalm suggested, if you have mark of  :fire at least you gat one extra card than your opponent, effectivily giving you card advantage
Current effect: Spend one card. Your opponent draw 2(+1 if  :fire mark) and you draw exactly the same. Best possibility: You get x cards and your opponent gets x+1.

Napalm effect: Spend one card. Your opponent draw 2 cards and you draw exactly the same +1. Best possibility: Both get x cards.


Iīm counting the SoB like -1 card. You get 3 new cards but spend one, but your rival get 3 cards with no cost. And that is with the  :fire mark.

Itīs more about play fast than card advantage. I think.

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475444#msg475444
« Reply #101 on: March 29, 2012, 03:44:37 pm »
Well I dont co

no. you can only draw as much as your opponent and if you have mark of  :fire, that number of cards potentially rises to 3 instead of 2. With the version Napalm suggested, if you have mark of  :fire at least you gat one extra card than your opponent, effectivily giving you card advantage
Current effect: Spend one card. Your opponent draw 2(+1 if  :fire mark) and you draw exactly the same. Best possibility: You get x cards and your opponent gets x+1.

Napalm effect: Spend one card. Your opponent draw 2 cards and you draw exactly the same +1. Best possibility: Both get x cards.


Iīm counting the SoB like -1 card. You get 3 new cards but spend one, but your rival get 3 cards with no cost. And that is with the  :fire mark.

Itīs more about play fast than card advantage. I think.
Now that you mention it, this sounds fair to give equal card advantage.
Remember that a card slot is also a cost.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475446#msg475446
« Reply #102 on: March 29, 2012, 03:45:40 pm »
Current effect: Spend one card. Your opponent draw 2(+1 if  :fire mark) and you draw exactly the same. Best possibility: You get x cards and your opponent gets x+1.

Napalm effect: Spend one card. Your opponent draw 2 cards and you draw exactly the same +1. Best possibility: Both get x cards.


Iīm counting the SoB like -1 card. You get 3 new cards but spend one, but your rival get 3 cards with no cost. And that is with the  :fire mark.

Itīs more about play fast than card advantage. I think.
True. Usually i dont account for the card itself wich is wrong, but the fact that you get the cards in your turn can make all the difference indeed

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475448#msg475448
« Reply #103 on: March 29, 2012, 03:49:52 pm »
Now that you mention it, this sounds fair to give equal card advantage.
Remember that a card slot is also a cost.
Are you talking about fill the opponent hand?

I never though it. Really. Itīs the best setting to play this card, I guess.

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475464#msg475464
« Reply #104 on: March 29, 2012, 04:21:59 pm »
thanks guys for the explanation. in this case i prefer napalm version. the user of the card sud have an advantage
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475475#msg475475
« Reply #105 on: March 29, 2012, 04:54:35 pm »
thanks guys for the explanation. in this case i prefer napalm version. the user of the card sud have an advantage
Or at least not a disadvantage. He have to pay quanta + card slot to get 2 (3) cards. Net gain = 1 (2) card. Opponent net gain = 2 (3) cards.
Napalm's version, net gain = 2 (3) = opponent net gain.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475528#msg475528
« Reply #106 on: March 29, 2012, 07:42:15 pm »
^^ Agreed 100%.  I like the Napalm version quite a bit.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475549#msg475549
« Reply #107 on: March 29, 2012, 08:46:41 pm »

"Your opponent draws 2 cards. Draw an equal amount of cards, one additional if your mark is :fire ."
It's nice idea, but it hurts the versatility of the card. Current SoB can be used also as Deckouter in stalls.


 

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