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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467552#msg467552
« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2012, 05:36:35 am »
ya i agree with the change in the fire card.... but i do not get the rationale on using sanctuary to counter SoB..... To protect quanta is ok, but to protect from drawing?? i think if sanctuary prevents effect that force you to discard cards( not in elements yet) , i think it is more appropriate...
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467554#msg467554
« Reply #73 on: March 05, 2012, 05:39:52 am »
Well, Sanc prevents effects to hand during opponent's turn, so I guess that's where the rationale is.  As for when you use SoB and you have the Sanc...  Well, I'm lost there.

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467558#msg467558
« Reply #74 on: March 05, 2012, 05:56:00 am »
Well, Sanc prevents effects to hand during opponent's turn, so I guess that's where the rationale is.  As for when you use SoB and you have the Sanc...  Well, I'm lost there.
Nothing should happen in this case. Because YOU are modifying your own hand, Sanctuary should have no effect on your drawing of cards. It's only when the opponent has Sanctuary do cards like Shard of Bravery fail.

Thematic-wise, I'm starting to think that Shard of Bravery is actually a codeword for 'Taunt'; when you use the Shard, you're basically challenging the opponent to step up their game and prove themselves battle-worthy (hence, them drawing cards) whilst you also simultaneous make a headstrong charge/tactic against them (you drawing cards equal to them). Of course, if they're immune to your provoking (Sanctuary, a clear state of mind), then your taunt fails, and there's no point in 'trying to charge' at them (can't draw cards).

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467563#msg467563
« Reply #75 on: March 05, 2012, 06:02:52 am »
when you taunt someone, you don't usually play fair right?? even in some other games you will have increased armor or something..... to me it is more like RISK.... you are giving opponent the chance to change the tide..... it is bravery too.... and of course it suits fire...
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467565#msg467565
« Reply #76 on: March 05, 2012, 06:04:12 am »
But you could also be decking yourself out. In the case where the opponent has a small deck, it would probably be a rush that would love to draw half its deck in two turns. If it's humongous, then it's more likely it has eternity, or you could even just be decking yourself out if you were relying on a big deck to deckout.
You do realize that the only decks that have eternity are huge 50+ card decks that involve the main theme of decking the opponent out right? Nobody else uses eternity. As for rush decks, shard of bravery fits nearly perfectly in a fire stall. It helps get firestall decks better draws (since firestall usually has around 40 cards), and it can deck out the smaller rush deck. Even if the smaller rush deck gets its creatures out, shard of bravery means the firestall deck can also get out its control cards faster.

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467578#msg467578
« Reply #77 on: March 05, 2012, 06:11:23 am »
But you could also be decking yourself out. In the case where the opponent has a small deck, it would probably be a rush that would love to draw half its deck in two turns. If it's humongous, then it's more likely it has eternity, or you could even just be decking yourself out if you were relying on a big deck to deckout.
but normally fire stall uses farenheit right..... it slows down a little.... if used in midgame it is slower

You do realize that the only decks that have eternity are huge 50+ card decks that involve the main theme of decking the opponent out right? Nobody else uses eternity. As for rush decks, shard of bravery fits nearly perfectly in a fire stall. It helps get firestall decks better draws (since firestall usually has around 40 cards), and it can deck out the smaller rush deck. Even if the smaller rush deck gets its creatures out, shard of bravery means the firestall deck can also get out its control cards faster.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467585#msg467585
« Reply #78 on: March 05, 2012, 06:16:49 am »
A fire deck with fire shards get to have an extra advantage from the shard. The advantage in this case given is to draw MORE cards. MORE cards mean MORE wins. So drawing cards is MORE good, not MORE bad. The word MORE is reminding me of MORTE (who sucks).  :D
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467586#msg467586
« Reply #79 on: March 05, 2012, 06:17:18 am »
But you could also be decking yourself out. In the case where the opponent has a small deck, it would probably be a rush that would love to draw half its deck in two turns. If it's humongous, then it's more likely it has eternity, or you could even just be decking yourself out if you were relying on a big deck to deckout.
You do realize that the only decks that have eternity are huge 50+ card decks that involve the main theme of decking the opponent out right? Nobody else uses eternity. As for rush decks, shard of bravery fits nearly perfectly in a fire stall. It helps get firestall decks better draws (since firestall usually has around 40 cards), and it can deck out the smaller rush deck. Even if the smaller rush deck gets its creatures out, shard of bravery means the firestall deck can also get out its control cards faster.
With the singularity nerf to SN, I expect the effectiveness of SoB against rushes to be increased greatly since rushes cant play SN twice in 1 turn.

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467776#msg467776
« Reply #80 on: March 05, 2012, 04:26:05 pm »
To see this in Nightmare-GoP decks is gonna be REALLY fun.

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467920#msg467920
« Reply #81 on: March 05, 2012, 11:14:54 pm »
This is actually a very bad card to include in a ghostmare deck.
If your opponent hand is not full, you will give him/her the opportunity to have 1-2 more cards that are not GotP.
If you opponent hand is full, nothing will happen.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467937#msg467937
« Reply #82 on: March 05, 2012, 11:49:27 pm »
This is actually a very bad card to include in a ghostmare deck.
If your opponent hand is not full, you will give him/her the opportunity to have 1-2 more cards that are not GotP.
If you opponent hand is full, nothing will happen.
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The nightmares would be more important, of course, but you only have 6 of them. Using the SoB after the nightmares would force opponents to discard cards and lock their hands for up to 12 turns instead of just 6.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg467945#msg467945
« Reply #83 on: March 06, 2012, 12:00:49 am »
This is actually a very bad card to include in a ghostmare deck.
If your opponent hand is not full, you will give him/her the opportunity to have 1-2 more cards that are not GotP.
If you opponent hand is full, nothing will happen.
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That's exactly the best case to use SoB, though, when your opponent's hand is full, so they don't get the extra cards.

 

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