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turin

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg4903#msg4903
« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:54 pm »

I have been grinding AI3 for the last couple days in a vein hope of getting a Pulverizer.  (I did top 50 for 2 days before that and still no luck *cry*) 
in ai3 the pulverizer is really hard to catch: 1 in a 58 card deck (the biggest) with a great variety of card (it's a life mark semi-raimbow deck). Even if i won it once i wouldnt recommend it, go on in top50!

zakal

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg4904#msg4904
« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:54 pm »

I have been grinding AI3 for the last couple days in a vein hope of getting a Pulverizer.  (I did top 50 for 2 days before that and still no luck *cry*)  I added in a couple Fahrenheits to see how it would work.  Maybe I am just a slow learner, but I never realized that the weapon will activate AFTER you draw your quantum for that round.  So, even if you spend yourself down to 0 quantum in a round, your Fahrenheit will still do bonus damage from quantum.  As far as I know this weapon is the only way to utilize quantums on the same turn they are generated.  I think this makes it a worth while addition to this deck.  Even if it slows it down sometimes, I find that it is invaluable for saving a game where the enemy gets lucky with a bunch of creature control or you get unlucky with all of your dragons sitting on the bottom of the deck. 

Differ

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg5157#msg5157
« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:55 pm »

You don't understand the point I was making, which is coincidentally why you take issue with it. I never specified what Monofire out does MonoEarth at so try harder...
Ok, then you will have to clarify.

Optimal build on monoearth is 18 tower, 2 gavel, 6 graboid, 5 shrieker clocking in at 5.36 +- 0.01. 6 shriekers, 6 graboid, 1 gavel is slightly slower, but not by much. Interesting notes are that gemfinders, antlions, swords, and golems all suck.

Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg5736#msg5736
« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

I'm curious why people keep mentioning Gavels? Long Swords do the same amount of damage, and they are cheaper. The Mark isn't Gravity or Earth, so Long Sword is a better choice. =/
Think about it. Would you rather hit someone with a wancy long sword. Or smack the crap out of them with a gavel?

Delreich

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg5737#msg5737
« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

This was some time ago, he's changed it to long swords since then.

ejnomad07

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg5738#msg5738
« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

You don't understand the point I was making, which is coincidentally why you take issue with it. I never specified what Monofire out does MonoEarth at so try harder...
Ok, then you will have to clarify.

Optimal build on monoearth is 18 tower, 2 gavel, 6 graboid, 5 shrieker clocking in at 5.36 +- 0.01. 6 shriekers, 6 graboid, 1 gavel is slightly slower, but not by much. Interesting notes are that gemfinders, antlions, swords, and golems all suck.
What's the optimal monofire that you could make with your program? I've tried this deck above and frankly I love it. At first I was skeptic about the gavels as you don't use a earth mark but it works out well with them. About the only thing that pisses me off are the lvl 3's with devourers eating my time. Keep up the good work.

ejnomad07

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg5739#msg5739
« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

I'm curious why people keep mentioning Gavels? Long Swords do the same amount of damage, and they are cheaper. The Mark isn't Gravity or Earth, so Long Sword is a better choice. =/
Think about it. Would you rather hit someone with a wancy long sword. Or smack the crap out of them with a gavel?
Gavel, obviously, but if we're speaking speed-wise here, Long Sword is better.
You bring up a good point. I wonder if he made an error in his script. I don't have long swords so I hope his reasoning is awesome. In anycase. That might speed up the turn count even more. :O

Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg5740#msg5740
« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

Gavel costs 2 random quantum to play, while Long Sword only costs 1. They both deal the same amount of damage. I cannot tell you how many times games have been decided by just one quantum, and I think that this change of weapon would make all the difference.

Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg5741#msg5741
« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

I'm curious why people keep mentioning Gavels? Long Swords do the same amount of damage, and they are cheaper. The Mark isn't Gravity or Earth, so Long Sword is a better choice. =/

Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg5742#msg5742
« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

I'm curious why people keep mentioning Gavels? Long Swords do the same amount of damage, and they are cheaper. The Mark isn't Gravity or Earth, so Long Sword is a better choice. =/
Think about it. Would you rather hit someone with a wancy long sword. Or smack the crap out of them with a gavel?
Gavel, obviously, but if we're speaking speed-wise here, Long Sword is better.

Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg5743#msg5743
« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

This was some time ago, he's changed it to long swords since then.
Lol, well, this is one thread I haven't followed. >.<"

 

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