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Chival

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg1660#msg1660
on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:33 PM
First off, i should point out that skillgannons mono dark deck will work better until you can afford to upgrade 6 ash eaters. This mono fire deck kills faster once you can afford it though, even faster than his fully upgraded deck. Once my entire fire deck is upgraded it is just ridiculously fast.

I design my AI3 grind decks to be so simple you could simply click all the cards without even looking, then press space, and you will still win very fast. I watch tv and do other things while grinding so i dont pay attention at all. You should change this if you plan on paying attention while playing.

Here it is fully upgraded, but like i said, all you need upgraded is ash eaters and it will still do very well.

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Before i tested the deck i thought i would get smashed by maxwell and otyog decks like the mono black did without drain lifes, but suprisingly i still beat them most of the time, only 2 losses out of 50 games in 1 hour. The damage just adds up so quick, that even if my crimson dragons only last 1 turn before being eaten i still win. the ash eater damage adds up alot more than i thought it would as well.

EDIT: Before people start complaining about no masteries, You will learn that in AI3 grinding you will get more $$$ from the slots than you ever would from masteries. You can play 4-5 games with a speed deck in the amount of time it takes to play 1 game with a mastery. Speed is better, and there is no arguing that.
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Ashiara

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg1829#msg1829
Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 PM

If you say so, but I remain skeptic for the number of dragons, there are so many ways of killing them (lightning, ice ball, fire ball and basically everything that does 2 damages in the game...), I don't know if they can hit more than once each, and therefore you may need to take all of them out (which requires some luck). Didn't try it though, therefore I'll have to stick to your word.

Ashiara

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg1830#msg1830
Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 PM

What happens if your fahrenheit gets destroyed ? And if because of your pillars you never get your Ruby dragons ?
What about putting some fireballs instead of some pillars ? Just in case ?

Chival

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg1831#msg1831
Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 PM

your forgetting that the 6 little 2/1s damage does add up,lol they are really only there for mana acceleration, but they do damage. The AI isnt that smart you have to remember

Chival

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg1832#msg1832
Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 PM

What happens if your fahrenheit gets destroyed ? And if because of your pillars you never get your Ruby dragons ?
What about putting some fireballs instead of some pillars ? Just in case ?
fahrenhieght isnt that important in this deck, its basically 5 extra damage a turn because im always using my quanta. I only have 1 weapon and 1 shield in this deck because i dont pay attention when playing, i just spam click and press space while doing other things.

you dont need fireballs against AI3 and that would actually take some thinking.

its a 30 card deck. there is absolutly no chance that you wont get your ruby dragons lol. You will usually have at least 1, usually 2 in your hand from the start, and if you dont the odds say you should get 1 every 3.8 cards after. the number of pillars in a deck doesnt affect the chances of drawing a specific card, the only thing that affects that is the deck size and number of the specific card and things like hourglass/ sundial.

Your putting too much thought into a deck that is made for grinding AI level 3. like i said, 2 losses 48 wins every hour, if you change it by adding fireballs or reduce pillars you will slow it down alot. Its worth 2 losses an hour to get more games in.

Chival

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg1833#msg1833
Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 PM

You only need 7 hits from dragons to win the game, excluding brimstone eaters, thats not too many hits.
excluding the occasional Fahrenheit too

Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg1834#msg1834
Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 PM

You only need 7 hits from dragons to win the game, excluding brimstone eaters, thats not too many hits.

JTWood

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg1835#msg1835
Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 PM

Here's my AI3 monofire deck:

16x Fire Pillar
4x Crimson Dragon
6x Fire Bolt
2x Rain of Fire
3x Deflagration
2x Farenheit

I rarely, if ever lose, with that build at AI3.  For t50, I modify the build to work against those God-farming decks:

Mark of Fire
11x Fire Pillar
4x Gravity Pillar
2x Crimson Dragon
3x Graviton Fire Eater
6x Fire Bolt
3x Rain of Fire
3x Deflagration
3x Momentum

This is a reactionary build, and the Momentums are there for the Bone Walls.  It wins about 2/3rds of its t50 matches, I'd say.


Chival

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg2078#msg2078
Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 PM

yeah i dont play T50 because everyone in T50 has their slow god farming decks. i cant complain i guess, im in the top50 now and im using a slow god farming deck lol.

Uzra

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg2079#msg2079
Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 PM

For farming T50 I use mono red with an entirely different strategy.

Fire bolt X 6
Fahrenheit X1
Disintegration X 3
Crimson dragon X 4
Burning tower X 16.

Still needs to be upgraded fully, but It wins 80%+ against T50.

T50 decks are based around long games, and surviving with health gain over many turns.

With 2 fire bolts, you only need 173 quantum to deal 100 damage in one shot
With 3 fire bolts, 110 quatum
with 4 93 quantum
with 5 76 quantum
6 never happens.

With a dragon or two in your hands you need even less.

My t50 win rate is probably close to 100%.  With the exceptions only being when I get lousy draws.

Chival

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg2412#msg2412
Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:36 PM

A shield seems completely out of place in a deck that's designed for speed. Why defend when you can just do more damage more quickly? Another fahrenheit would make more sense, though I personally like deflags more than fahrenheit. Preventing an owl's eye from sniping your drags or a procrastination or dusk mantle from halving your damage speeds you up, though in other battles it's only marginally useful. I like fire bolt for that same reason - I can kill a maxwell's or a blessed oty before they can kill my drags, which means I have an easier time with those decks (and also win more quickly since my drags stay on the table). Against other decks, fire bolt can also occasionally grant a win a turn earlier.
read my original post. like i said, i dont pay attention at ALL while grinding, so having deflags, fireballs or more than 1 weapon/ shield would slow me down. if you read my original post you will also see that if you want to pay attention, you should change the deck. READ

joob

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg2413#msg2413
Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:36 PM

A shield seems completely out of place in a deck that's designed for speed. Why defend when you can just do more damage more quickly? Another fahrenheit would make more sense, though I personally like deflags more than fahrenheit. Preventing an owl's eye from sniping your drags or a procrastination or dusk mantle from halving your damage speeds you up, though in other battles it's only marginally useful. I like fire bolt for that same reason - I can kill a maxwell's or a blessed oty before they can kill my drags, which means I have an easier time with those decks (and also win more quickly since my drags stay on the table). Against other decks, fire bolt can also occasionally grant a win a turn earlier.


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