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Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55085.msg1146851#msg1146851
« on: July 21, 2014, 01:49:11 pm »
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Phobos

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Phobos, son of Aphrodite and Ares, is the personification of fear. Wherever there is a battle, Phobos will wear his armor to assist his father, the god of war, to sow fear in the hearts of enemies.


Not an easy task to create a FG deck using :time as main element, since several FGs already use it (Paradox, Osiris, Destiny, etc...)

Ghost of the Past is one of the :time creatures still not used by FGs, so I tried to celebrate one the most famous decks, The Ghostmare, making it a False God deck.



Mark of  :darkness: grants enough quanta to run SoVs and Nithmares.

Time Towers: grant quanta to play easily the ghosts.

Ghost of the past: it represtents the fear that comes from the past; in combo with nightmare is a deadly lock for the opponent hand.

Rewind: the display of divine power, strong CC card.

Nightmare: the pure fear. Used on a Ghost of the Past the opponent hand is filled with terror.

Shard of Void: there is something that can scare most of the void?



Deck use is very simple and the AI shouldn't have issue while playing this deck, since the main combo is to play nightmare on the only creature of the deck. Rewinds grant a nice CC while Shards of Void slowly reduce opponent's HP's.

« Last Edit: July 24, 2014, 04:51:50 am by SpikeSpiegel »
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Re: Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55085.msg1147272#msg1147272
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 12:59:15 am »
Is this the consensus best Ghostmare build? I have seen many versions, some more successful than others, but I think it could be done differently. SoVs are slow and probably not necessary against most decks, but maybe they're more there to match the theme? Steals are very common in these decks, too - some permanent control, especially on pillars and towers early, is a huge part of the winrate for this deck. I have seen some decks that also work in pests to great effect, though I don't know the exact balance. I suspect you could probably drop a tower or two as well.

Still, it is possible that you chose the cards you did to fit the theme better or to make sure that there were some reliable ways to combat the deck. For instance, leaving steals out gives a deck with phase shields or hourglasses or sanctuaries a bit of a chance, perhaps.

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Re: Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55085.msg1147274#msg1147274
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 01:59:23 am »
SoVs are really effective with double draw and destroy any kind of healing aside from SoDiv (and that just at a slower rate). Despite some serious competition, I would declare this the most annoying Fake god proposal (sorry, but I had to say that; we see that deck type in the arena to often). At least there are no steals or devourers (ineffective in ghostmare, but they are annoying no matter what); no eternity either? Aside from a deck with nothing but :time pillars and a deck that stalls for several turns (wings dim shield etc.) I can not really think of a counter to this. Pdials and RoL/hope may work, but the nightmares are a nightmare.
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Re: Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55085.msg1147275#msg1147275
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 02:03:29 am »
The oracle counter to this almost certainly is sanc-based - it would counter the nightmare and be in element with SoDs for growing your health.  Perhaps a light/entropy duo to AM the ghosts too for added survival?  Plus Entropy has BE to blow up the SoVs.

It'd definitely be counterable, though probably one of the harder ones.
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Re: Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55085.msg1147276#msg1147276
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2014, 02:06:00 am »
the counter I would use is actually mono air with 6 wings and 6 SoFrees
No SoFrees? duo with  :light for RoLs and sanctuaries or  :aether for additional dim shields and Phase dragons or :time for the lulz
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Re: Phobos https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55085.msg1147282#msg1147282
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2014, 02:38:44 am »
Let's make some explanations more...

:time is an element that already used most of his creatures and cards in FGs deck.

Fate egg is used by Destiny
Deja-vu is used by Paradox
Pharaoh and scarab are used by Osiris
Anubis and Eternity by Lionheart

Last cards added to :time have been Dune Scorpion and Ghost of the Past and both aren't used in a FG deck; now, even if i'd like more to see a FG using Dune Scorpion, AI is still dumb when he has to use creatures to buff (most likely AI buffs the first creature and ignores the others).

So I choose to use Gotp to make a FG deck :time related.

Now, imho a FG deck has to be hard but not impossible. Ghostmare is already an hard deck to face, that's why i didn't put any Improved steals in and CC is not so heavy. This deck is simple and effective, of course counterable (like every deck) and imho fun to play vs.

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