Post by: twixy10 on July 02, 2011, 02:59:12 pm
i have stopped with this community and the game, that is the reason i didn't update this post anymore. feel free to make a OP post, and i will put it there.OK, I understand, not hte best solution though. Maybe someone else, who is active enough can start a new thread with the new decks & stats to replace this thread.
I might not be here much often, too. Ralouf? ::)
So, my suggestion for a new Thread:
This Thread replaces the old one (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.0.html). It is meant to gather all anti Arena decks. A sort of Archive (however, every deck can enter). The better you deck winning % is against a certain rank (bronze, silver, gold or platinum) the higher it will be in this list. Everybody can submit stats of whatever deck they want. The minimum amount of games for a deck should be 40.
The Deck used against ALL:
The JMZ Puly/Sader by Essence seems to work all around:
Silver w:77 l:23 %: 77%
Gold w:14 l:7 %: 66%
Platinum w:127 l:128 %: 50%
The JMZ by Essence (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28027.msg382197#msg382197)
Decks used against Bronze:
Immortal Spirit Dimension by Mainiak
w:133 l:43 %: 75%
Immortal Spirit Dimension by Mainiak (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29163.0.html)
Grabbix by kevkev60614 slightly modded
w:58 l:26 %: 70%
Grabbix by kevkev60614 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html)
Decks used against Silver:
Nothing Hurts Gravity by twixy10
w:13 l:7 %: 65%
Nothing Hurts Gravity by Twixy10 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24777.msg337632#msg337632)
Decks used against Gold:
The Shutdown by safko01 modded by Donot
w:10 l:10 %: 50%
The shutdown by Safke01 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)
more stats and some commentory on the deck:
I ran a set of 20 games, had a 50% win rate (10/10) nine of which were mastery, with a net increase in score of 1494 and gold of 2704. I won 5 cards, managed at most 3 wins in a row (no rare spins), and it took roughly an hour. Its biggest weaknesses are bad draws and sanctuary.
TADAbow by kirchj33 modded by kevkev60614
W:75 L:75 %: 50%
TADAbow by kirchj33 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg389642#msg389642)
Decks used against Platinum:
Sevs Cremation by Sevs
w:43 l:32 %: 57%
Sevs Cremation by Sevs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg389876#msg389876)
Pestal by SnoWeb
w:74 l:62 %: 54%
Fractal pests by SnoWeb (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg387913#msg387913)
The Shutdown by safko01 modded by Donot
w:13 l:14 %: 48%
The shutdown by Safke01 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)
Old OP:
This post is meant to gather all anti Arena decks. A sort of Archive (however, every deck can enter). The better you deck winning % is against a certain rank (bronze, silver, gold or platinum) the higher it will be in this list. Everybody can submit stats of whatever deck they want. The minimum amount of games nessecary before you can submit a deck is 20.
Decks used against bronze:
Decks used against Silver:
Nothing Hurts Gravity by twixy10 w:13 l:7 %: 65%
Nothing Hurts Gravity by Twixy10 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24777.msg337632#msg337632)
The JMZ Classic by Essence stats needed
The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] by Essence (http://http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28027.msg382197#msg382197)
Decks used against Gold:
The Shutdown by safko01 modded by Donot w:10 l:10 %: 50%
The shutdown by Safke01 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)
more stats and some commentory on the deck:
I ran a set of 20 games, had a 50% win rate (10/10) nine of which were mastery, with a net increase in score of 1494 and gold of 2704. I won 5 cards, managed at most 3 wins in a row (no rare spins), and it took roughly an hour. Its biggest weaknesses are bad draws and sanctuary.
The JMZ Classic by Essence stats needed
The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] by Essence (http://http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28027.msg382197#msg382197)
Decks used against Platinum:
Pestal by SnoWeb w:74 l:62 %: 54%
Fractal pests by SnoWeb (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg387913#msg387913)
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Please post feedback on the idea.
Post by: Jenkar on July 02, 2011, 04:10:18 pm
As soon as i up the mindie, & steals.
Post by: Calindu on July 05, 2011, 05:46:31 pm
Post by: twixy10 on July 05, 2011, 05:48:14 pm
TADAbow,CCYB,RoL/hope,DoSa.And is impossible to have stats,deck changes over time.If you take stats over time, you will get a fair look of the winrate with that deck. Even when the opponent is flexible (I think).
Post by: parasite99 on July 05, 2011, 06:14:57 pm
Post by: Anarke on July 05, 2011, 09:37:04 pm
Parasite claims to be getting a 70-80% win rate against gold however from my experiences the win rate against gold is more like 30-40%. There are far too many ways for decks to completely crush this deck for it to be effective.
PS. If there is some magical strat that suddenly makes this deck decent than so be it and I am mistaken, however I see a pretty rigid strategy and little to no wiggle room.
Post by: Donot on July 06, 2011, 02:49:33 am
"Ultimate Shutdown"
(? = Entropy Mark, not a card)
I didn't write this deck, I found it in the forums a few months ago, made minor (long forgotten) changes to it then, and add it to my library of fun decks. If you wrote it, let us know and I'll give you proper credit.
Post by: parasite99 on July 06, 2011, 03:40:48 am
I farmed today with it for like 2-3h and also got 6-7 spins and 4 rares out of it. Getting spins means that it's clearly capable of getting 4 games in a row in Gold. That would be very difficult if it had the win rate you are talking about Anarke.
It's having some troubles vs rushes if you have a bad hand and also vs poison, but it really rolls if you have a ulitharid, pulvy and demon in play with some shield (bone wall pref). Try use your steals on Sogs, helps a lot. It has little of everything, you can lobo with ulitharid, cc with demon and pc with pulvy and steal. It also gives some EMs (20%-30%).
I got a lot of score and electrum with that deck today and wanted to thank Essence and everyone who modded it for the deck. I'll may try to mod it a little by myself if I have time l8r.
Post by: twixy10 on July 06, 2011, 11:12:50 am
I've used this deck against Gold with reasonable success. I ran a set of 20 games, had a 50% win rate (10/10) nine of which were mastery, with a net increase in score of 1494 and gold of 2704. I won 5 cards, managed at most 3 wins in a row (no rare spins), and it took roughly an hour. Its biggest weaknesses are bad draws and sanctuary.Safko01 Made this deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)
"Ultimate Shutdown"
(? = Entropy Mark, not a card)
I didn't write this deck, I found it in the forums a few months ago, made minor (long forgotten) changes to it then, and add it to my library of fun decks. If you wrote it, let us know and I'll give you proper credit.
Added it to my list ;)
Post by: Malao on July 08, 2011, 10:36:25 am
i started a study but failed because i didnt know what i was doing (this was for gold) so i will just do TTW or i can try silver if u list everything i need to study
Post by: SnoWeb on July 08, 2011, 01:21:36 pm
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7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t8 7t9 7t9 7t9 7t9 7ta 7ta 7tb 7td 7td 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 80i 80i 80i 80i 80iobviously if you face only speed-bows you will have a lower ratio.EDIT: I just tried the shutdown (from safko01) mentioned above in Platinum and it happen to be almost as good (6/2) as the pestal. The 2 decks don't win against the same opponents but the proportion gives similar results.
EDIT 2 : After a while my stat when drastically down for the shut-down in platinum 13/14 whereas they remained almost as good for the pestal (with steal) 27/9. It seems that only the speedbows or rng fails are unbeatable with pestal.
Post by: twixy10 on July 08, 2011, 02:46:48 pm
I used this today against platinum with a pretty good 22/6 win/loss ratio:Both are added ;)Code: [Select]7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t8 7t9 7t9 7t9 7t9 7ta 7ta 7tb 7td 7td 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 80i 80i 80i 80i 80iobviously if you face only speed-bows you will have a lower ratio.
EDIT: I just tried the shutdown (from safko01) mentioned above in Platinum and it happen to be almost as good (6/2) as the pestal. The 2 decks don't win against the same opponents but the proportion gives similar results.
EDIT 2 : After a while my stat when drastically down for the shut-down in platinum 13/14 whereas they remained almost as good for the pestal (with steal) 27/9. It seems that only the speedbows or rng fails are unbeatable with pestal.
Post by: Gocubbies1212 on July 09, 2011, 01:09:44 am
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Post by: Essence on July 09, 2011, 02:42:12 am
I don't know if this essence deck is a ruse or what but I have used two variations and both performed absolutely awful on Gold. The first variation I used was -1 archangel, +1 morning glory then I transitioned into the variation listed by parasite below.Are you sure we're talking about the same deck here? The JMZ classic is probably one of the most flexible decks I know. There are so many small synergies that it's almost impossible to list them all. You can go defensive with Maxwell's + Bone Wall, denial with BH+Steal on their pillars, aggro with Charger+Adrenaline+TU or Lava Golem+TU, swarm with FFQ, untouchable with burrowed Graboids and a self-healing Archangel...the problem is not a lack of options, it's an overabundance of them.
Parasite claims to be getting a 70-80% win rate against gold however from my experiences the win rate against gold is more like 30-40%. There are far too many ways for decks to completely crush this deck for it to be effective.
PS. If there is some magical strat that suddenly makes this deck decent than so be it and I am mistaken, however I see a pretty rigid strategy and little to no wiggle room.
Post by: Fluffboll on July 09, 2011, 04:07:42 pm
Post by: Essence on July 09, 2011, 05:06:34 pm
Post by: Avenger on July 10, 2011, 08:53:22 am
Post by: Fluffboll on July 10, 2011, 11:47:31 am
Except that most of the creatures in the deck have decent HP (charger, archangel, FFQ) or can burrow to avoid CC, not really. Either way, I've actually not seen the massive CC that you have. Probably just luck of the draw, then.I take back my statement about the deck not doing that well, it seems that upgraded creatures made a far bigger difference then I thought it would. Teaches me to open my mouth before I got all the deck done.
I had most of the non-creatures upgraded (except Black Hole and Fire Shield) but none of the creatures when I made my previous post.
Post by: ralouf on July 10, 2011, 12:39:22 pm
I got all the worst MU in a row so I lost 10 games in a row..
I don't even think what the result will had be if I didn't faced this 7 guys with 1 HP.
Anyway this deck is fun and the build is good. I love to look my opponent in spectator mode :)
what else ? hum.. Oh yeah I lost 4 times the special spins.
Post by: Addicted on July 11, 2011, 01:01:29 am
Post by: Essence on July 11, 2011, 01:14:36 am
Post by: twixy10 on July 11, 2011, 02:12:56 am
Just wondering, why is fractal pests linked to nothing hurts gravity?mistake, I used the lay out of nothing hurts gravity but forgot to change the link.
JMZ classic should be listed under Gold too; most people I've talked to use it for Gold more than Silver. :)added it, but still it is kinda pointless as long as nobody takes stats (I don't have a lot of upgraded cards so I can't do it).
Post by: ralouf on July 11, 2011, 05:05:34 am
Post by: SnoWeb on July 11, 2011, 06:18:09 am
I tried a little snoweb's deck : 47 win / 53 looses most of them due to not drawing a key card 20 EMIt's not really my deck - it's a very well known deck which I tuned for platinum.
Are your stats for gold or platinum? I have the impression that the pestal is more effective in platinum (maybe less rushes there).
Post by: ralouf on July 11, 2011, 09:46:47 am
Post by: twixy10 on July 11, 2011, 01:26:25 pm
I gave you stats in 100 games for pestal you didn't added themSrr I mist it, added it now ;)
Post by: ralouf on July 11, 2011, 02:17:49 pm
Post by: kev on July 11, 2011, 05:54:32 pm
This has been 50% over 150 gold games but a good chunk of wins are EMs and it obviously plays a lot faster than the FG decks some players have been using.
Don't credit me with the deck. It's just my tweak on the TADAbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22518.0.html) by kirchj33.
Post by: Newbiecake on July 11, 2011, 10:39:50 pm
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5p0 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7mu 7mu 7mu 7mu 7n8 7n8 7n8 7n8 7n8 7ngI believe more Blue/Air Nymphs would help, but I only have 2 of those.
Also:
(http://i.imgur.com/UqSJu.png)
tttt the Head of the Troll Council got trolled by me.
Post by: Sevs on July 12, 2011, 12:22:34 am
I have been using it all day but i decided to keep stats for 30 games. 18-12 in platinum and 3 spins. Probably a little lucky. EM'd a cremation destroyer deck because it played nothing. but it has been around ~45% for all of today if i had to guess
Make that 43-32 after 75 games
Post by: Xenocidius on July 12, 2011, 01:18:25 pm
I haven't had much luck with the JMZ classic either (playing mostly in Gold). I'd give it a 20% winrate at best.
Post by: parasite99 on July 12, 2011, 02:07:06 pm
I'd certainly love to build Pestal, but it would cost 15000 electrum to upgrade all those pendulums, and they're not exactly reusable.20% for JMZ?? You probably do something wrong Xenocidius. It works good for me as I said before with a winrate 70-80% vs gold but not close enough for platinum. Also around 20% of wins are EMs.
I haven't had much luck with the JMZ classic either (playing mostly in Gold). I'd give it a 20% winrate at best.
Post by: Calindu on July 12, 2011, 02:29:29 pm
Lol,my modded version with an adrenaline instead of a heal it gave me 60-80% against gold,depends on day.And that BH give me 10% EM rate.I'd certainly love to build Pestal, but it would cost 15000 electrum to upgrade all those pendulums, and they're not exactly reusable.20% for JMZ?? You probably do something wrong Xenocidius. It works good for me as I said before with a winrate 70-80% vs gold but not close enough for platinum. Also around 20% of wins are EMs.
I haven't had much luck with the JMZ classic either (playing mostly in Gold). I'd give it a 20% winrate at best.
Post by: Xenocidius on July 12, 2011, 02:46:40 pm
Post by: parasite99 on July 12, 2011, 02:49:32 pm
Post by: Essence on July 12, 2011, 06:24:21 pm
Post by: Calindu on July 12, 2011, 06:37:15 pm
I don't know if I'm allowed to do stats on a deck that I posted, but I got a 66% winrate: 14/21 games thus far, JMZ Classic vs. Gold League.What version?Crusader version?Very nice though,as expected.
Post by: Essence on July 12, 2011, 10:19:02 pm
Post by: SnoWeb on July 13, 2011, 06:27:02 am
A short run with a sanctuary instead of the crusader gave me 15/6 = 71 %. However, on such a short sample its impossible to confirm the this version is better. I would say that depending of the opponent and the RNG they give similar success rates.
Post by: ralouf on July 14, 2011, 06:19:14 am
deck : JMZ (pulvy/sader version)
result : 1 win 10 looses
Post by: Calindu on July 14, 2011, 06:22:04 am
league : goldIt's impossible,i managed to take out speedbow's,fire rushes,fire stall's,it has some bad luck at draws but it's way better than that.
deck : JMZ (pulvy/sader version)
result : 1 win 10 looses
Post by: ddevans96 on July 14, 2011, 06:25:07 am
Post by: ralouf on July 14, 2011, 07:11:54 am
BTW when I usually used it vs gold it was way better..
Post by: Xenocidius on July 14, 2011, 09:05:58 am
Post by: ralouf on July 14, 2011, 09:08:04 am
Post by: Calindu on July 14, 2011, 10:22:56 am
How exactly is Pestal supposed to win? It's far too slow to deny the opponent, and it's incredibly vulnerable to CC and PC. I'm only winning with incredibly bad opponent draws.*Facepalm*Deny your opponent quanta fast then play vampires to heal back.
Post by: Xenocidius on July 14, 2011, 11:10:15 am
Post by: Erlemar on July 14, 2011, 12:32:46 pm
But it can't deny quanta fast ... it gets a single Pest out turn 1 or 2, and Fractals usually come around turn 6. Plus, the first Fractal only gives about 4 Pests.Just an example - my last game (though I was a bit lucky and opponent unlucky), platinum:
Enemy had double mark gravity and more than 150 life.
Turn 1. Enemy plays 2 fire towers. I play 4 pendulums and 2 pests.
Turn 2. Enemy plays SoG and destroys one my pendulum. I play 1 Pest and Dusk
Turn 3. One more pest
Turn 4. Vampire
Turn 5. Fractal and 3 pests - enemy now have no quanta (and two new pillars couldn't help him.
Then dagger, more pests, eclipse, fractal on vampires and win on 11 turn with EM.
Better example:
Enemy has gravity mark, 198 HP
Turn 1. Opponent plays 1 time pendulum, 2 time towers, dune scorpion.
I play 2 pendulums and 1 pest.
Turn 2. Dune scorpion, time tower.
Pendulum, pest
Turn 3. Dune scorpion, time tower.
Eclipse.
Turn 4. Dune scorpion.
Vampire.
Turn 5. Time pendulum.
Fractal, pest
Turn 6. Time pendulum, dune scorpion, pharaon.
Pendulum, 3 pests.
Turn 7. 2 Unstoppables on scorpions, 2 time towers.
Vampire dagger, dusk.
Turn 8. 2 time pendulums, pharaon
Turn 9. Black hole, time tower
Pendulum, fractal on vampire, 3 vampire.
Then EM win on turn 11.
Post by: ralouf on July 14, 2011, 01:16:48 pm
deck : JMZ classic
results : win 77 loose 23
Win rate : 77 %
Post by: Fluffboll on July 14, 2011, 02:40:37 pm
In Gold it's still pretty good I'd say around 50-60%.
In Plat probably 40-50%.
Most problems for me is against Mono or Duo rush decks when I get a bad starting draw, I still lose versus stall decks and control decks but only if I get horrible draws or the AI gets godly ones.
Haven't kept track of my stats though will try to remember to do so now.
Oh yeah I use the Crusader/Pulverizer version
Post by: Gocubbies1212 on July 14, 2011, 03:00:40 pm
Oh yeah I use the Crusader/Pulverizer versionI use the JMZC crusader/pulvy version also... it wins a ton, but it's EM rate is pretty low... even with the heal and the bh. maybe and a SoG? idk what to tatke out though...
Post by: Calindu on July 14, 2011, 03:02:08 pm
In Plat probably 40-50%.Uhm...what?
I know the deck is good,but 30% win rate is godly in plat for an control rainbow.
Post by: Calindu on July 14, 2011, 03:08:02 pm
EM rate isn't needed,the rewards are way to big to be needed to EM.Anyway,i took down the heal and added another adrenaline.Oh yeah I use the Crusader/Pulverizer versionI use the JMZC crusader/pulvy version also... it wins a ton, but it's EM rate is pretty low... even with the heal and the bh. maybe and a SoG? idk what to tatke out though...
Post by: Fluffboll on July 14, 2011, 03:12:14 pm
Well I haven't been playing plat all that much maybe 25-30 games or so and have had 3 spins and some other wins broken by losses so I would guess it's at 40-50% but like I said I haven't been keeping stats but have begun doing that now. It is doing really well for me in plat.In Plat probably 40-50%.Uhm...what?
I know the deck is good,but 30% win rate is godly in plat for an control rainbow.
Post by: Erlemar on July 16, 2011, 12:20:41 pm
wins-losses 43-57
Somewhere 30 wins were EM.
Post by: Fluffboll on July 16, 2011, 11:49:17 pm
Wins: 26
Losses: 24
Spins: 5
All the losses comes against (Fire/life)rushes or really horrible draws (like one game where I got one tower and no supernovas for 7 turns). It's not an automatic loss against rush decks but if the draw is bad I'll lose.
Will come back and post stats again when I get to 100 games played in plat.
Post by: Fluffboll on July 18, 2011, 12:49:04 am
Wins: 52
Losses: 48
Spins: 9
With a winrate of 52% my previous prediction of a 40-50% winrate seems pretty accurate :)
I'll keep recording my stats as I play with it and if it should change dramatically I'll update the stats.
Post by: Calindu on July 18, 2011, 06:53:54 am
Okay, I've got 100 game played while I've kept stats now with the JMZClassic in Platinum:Wooh,i say why platinum stats are so good,they aren't so many rushes,and you can control the game easy after,Good Job!
Wins: 52
Losses: 48
Spins: 9
With a winrate of 52% my previous prediction of a 40-50% winrate seems pretty accurate :)
I'll keep recording my stats as I play with it and if it should change dramatically I'll update the stats.
Post by: ralouf on July 19, 2011, 09:52:35 am
Post by: Fluffboll on July 19, 2011, 10:14:35 am
Post by: Bhlewos on July 19, 2011, 08:34:10 pm
JMZ in Gold:
W: 7
L: 15
Winrate: 31.8%
Electrum: 4210 - 5413
Score: 82216 - 82994
This is from recording just one hour of grinding (Number's condition), so the number of games played may not be enough for data. I do think it's accurate though -- I was able to make over 7500 electrum (enough to upgrade 5 cards) in one day, even though I lost more than I won.
Post by: Fluffboll on July 19, 2011, 11:19:22 pm
Post by: Bhlewos on July 19, 2011, 11:57:32 pm
Post by: Fluffboll on July 24, 2011, 10:46:20 am
Wins: 43
Losses: 57
Spins: 6
I did switch out my Crusader for a Sanctuary to counter the massive BH spammage that most decks run with now.
Because I was a bit bored I decided to try out the Pestal deck by Snoweb and the results have so far been horrible in Platinum
Wins: 6
Losses: 21
Spins: 0
In Gold it doesn't fair that much better either. I've only been able to get a 50% winrate so far in Silver.
The sample size for me is still rather low and I'll keep trying it and get a larger sample size but it seems it's just too slow with the quanta denial. I've also observed that if I don't win the coin-toss or get out a Pest on my first turn I lose over 80% of the games.
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2011, 05:48:41 pm
In gold I lost 14 of 15 games, and in silver I lost 3 out of 4
Post by: ralouf on July 28, 2011, 06:47:06 pm
got a nice 24-1 in silver with JMZ if you want to add it in stats
Post by: Wiesel on July 31, 2011, 02:38:09 pm
Post by: Mainiak on July 31, 2011, 10:47:03 pm
I want to suggest my deck, originally posted here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29163.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29163.0.html)
Wins 133
Losses 43
Spins Only 6 - don't ask how often I lost the 6th game :'(
Overall winning pct. around ~75%
Boring, slow but very reliable. But fire rush decks with deflag and shields are really a problem.
I also tested the Grabbix
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html)
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I don't have an arsenic, so I put in Jade and Trident, although both will eat forest spirits quanta. I switched a Golem for Phoenix, wich also fits well, but isn't necessary.
But I highly recommend 2 fog shields in Arena.
For the stats, the deck I used:
Wins 58
Losses 26
Spins 3
Overall winning pct. around ~70%
Both decks are worth trying it as a Beginner, so maybe they should went in the OP.
Post by: twixy10 on August 01, 2011, 03:10:08 am
Post by: Mainiak on August 01, 2011, 11:11:38 am
i have stopped with this community and the game, that is the reason i didn't update this post anymore. feel free to make a OP post, and i will put it there.OK, I understand, not hte best solution though. Maybe someone else, who is active enough can start a new thread with the new decks & stats to replace this thread.
I might not be here much often, too. Ralouf? ::)
So, my suggestion for a new Thread:
This Thread replaces the old one (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.0.html). It is meant to gather all anti Arena decks. A sort of Archive (however, every deck can enter). The better you deck winning % is against a certain rank (bronze, silver, gold or platinum) the higher it will be in this list. Everybody can submit stats of whatever deck they want. The minimum amount of games for a deck should be 40.
The Deck used against ALL:
The JMZ Puly/Sader by Essence seems to work all around:
Silver w:77 l:23 %: 77%
Gold w:14 l:7 %: 66%
Platinum w:127 l:128 %: 50%
The JMZ by Essence (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28027.msg382197#msg382197)
Decks used against Bronze:
Immortal Spirit Dimension by Mainiak
w:133 l:43 %: 75%
Immortal Spirit Dimension by Mainiak (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29163.0.html)
Grabbix by kevkev60614 slightly modded
w:58 l:26 %: 70%
Grabbix by kevkev60614 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html)
Decks used against Silver:
Nothing Hurts Gravity by twixy10
w:13 l:7 %: 65%
Nothing Hurts Gravity by Twixy10 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24777.msg337632#msg337632)
Decks used against Gold:
The Shutdown by safko01 modded by Donot
w:10 l:10 %: 50%
The shutdown by Safke01 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)
more stats and some commentory on the deck:
I ran a set of 20 games, had a 50% win rate (10/10) nine of which were mastery, with a net increase in score of 1494 and gold of 2704. I won 5 cards, managed at most 3 wins in a row (no rare spins), and it took roughly an hour. Its biggest weaknesses are bad draws and sanctuary.
TADAbow by kirchj33 modded by kevkev60614
W:75 L:75 %: 50%
TADAbow by kirchj33 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg389642#msg389642)
Decks used against Platinum:
Sevs Cremation by Sevs
w:43 l:32 %: 57%
Sevs Cremation by Sevs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg389876#msg389876)
Pestal by SnoWeb
w:74 l:62 %: 54%
Fractal pests by SnoWeb (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg387913#msg387913)
The Shutdown by safko01 modded by Donot
w:13 l:14 %: 48%
The shutdown by Safke01 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)
Post by: twixy10 on August 01, 2011, 02:02:25 pm
When somebody considers themselves active enough they can make the new topic.
Thank you Mainak!
Post by: ralouf on August 01, 2011, 05:39:40 pm
Post by: Bhlewos on August 01, 2011, 07:00:17 pm
Post by: wavedash on August 01, 2011, 07:41:36 pm
Post by: Blues on August 10, 2011, 12:07:16 am
Post by: Dave on August 13, 2011, 12:08:41 am
Post by: Xenocidius on August 13, 2011, 02:26:13 am
25 games: 25 wins, 0 losses against Bronze League.
Post by: EvaRia on August 13, 2011, 05:17:24 am
A quick test in Silver with a mostly unupped version netted me around 7/10 games won and a lot of EMs.
This is basically Celandrion's version +1 Arctic Dragon.
The idea of the deck is pretty simple. You wanna draw through your deck as fast as humanly possible, and play dragons rush style (Not OTK style).
You end up netting more SNovas, more Towers, and more HGs as you rip through your deck.
Then, when you're about to win, you Blitz + Chimera + LS for the (Almost) guaranteed EM victory.
It should be a pretty good score/money grinder, since EM wins mean a lot in the Arena.
So, could someone do some testing for me please? It probably works best in Silver, but it might be okay in gold.
Feel free to make tweaks if you think it helps the efficiency of the deck.
Post by: Dave on August 13, 2011, 01:59:26 pm
But a Chimera with 140 dmg and LS Makes for an easy EM indeed ^^
1st Edit: I removed the time towers and the pendulums and replaced them with Quantum towers, feels like I don't get stuck with dragons I cant play as much now.
2nd Edit: Arrgh, almost lost one Got a 184 dmg chimera up with LS, Then the AI uses his reverse time on it ^^ Lucky I had 1 dragon left after. A Really fun deck to play indeed. Even if it has weaknesses against CC and is a bit slow sometimes. Its just really fun to pop that big chimera ^^
Post by: zombie0 on August 14, 2011, 03:06:53 pm
shockingly good results (could be beginners luck, but its brutal fast. will die horribly to spammy shields, but what doesnt)
pleasantly surprised. good thread here :)
Post by: lskpiano on August 30, 2011, 08:31:42 pm
Okay, can I get someone to test out the Dragon Bow for me?I can confirm the results for Silver Arena. Just went 8-2 with 7 EM's with the following mostly upped deck. Should have been 9-1 but I badly misplayed one game, so one loss was due to user error. :D
A quick test in Silver with a mostly unupped version netted me around 7/10 games won and a lot of EMs.
This is basically Celandrion's version +1 Arctic Dragon.
The idea of the deck is pretty simple. You wanna draw through your deck as fast as humanly possible, and play dragons rush style (Not OTK style).
You end up netting more SNovas, more Towers, and more HGs as you rip through your deck.
Then, when you're about to win, you Blitz + Chimera + LS for the (Almost) guaranteed EM victory.
It should be a pretty good score/money grinder, since EM wins mean a lot in the Arena.
So, could someone do some testing for me please? It probably works best in Silver, but it might be okay in gold.
Feel free to make tweaks if you think it helps the efficiency of the deck.
Here's the deck I used, based on EvaRia's and cards I own. Felt quanta starved at beginning so added one QT, kept getting killed too fast so added one SoG. Upping the two Entropy Pends made a huge difference. I intend to keep building this to fully upped to see how it fares against Gold and Platinum.
Definitely a fun deck to play!
Thanks,
LSK Piano
Post by: Toge111 on August 30, 2011, 11:04:09 pm
Mono Darkness (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29807.0.html):- I tried it unupped. It's so hilariously slow to grind 150 hp away with vampires, relying on opponent not playing anything serious like Quantum Tower to fuel their deck, or have any sort of mass CC.
25 games: 25 wins, 0 losses against Bronze League.
I'm going back to TADAbow...
Post by: Xenocidius on August 30, 2011, 11:55:05 pm
- I tried it unupped. It's so hilariously slow to grind 150 hp away with vampires, relying on opponent not playing anything serious like Quantum Tower to fuel their deck, or have any sort of mass CC.Protip: Don't try it unupped.
I'm going back to TADAbow...
Post by: vidurkhanna on August 31, 2011, 06:46:37 am
its a deck i made for bronze league!
and it did quite well! ;D
Post by: Djhopper :) on August 31, 2011, 07:22:38 am
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,30465.new.html#newYeah, with mono-entropy, all you have to look out for is fractal and mitosis. Oh yeah, and CC on maxwells :S
its a deck i made for bronze league!
and it did quite well! ;D
Post by: zse on August 31, 2011, 01:38:09 pm
Chargers and Titan are great against Bone & Phase Shields, while Rewinds and Turtle can stall Golems, Phoenix and Dragons quite well. Basically this beats most popular decks with good win% and games are quite fast.
Post by: lskpiano on August 31, 2011, 02:04:38 pm
Protip: Don't try it unupped.heh
Post by: Xenocidius on September 03, 2011, 11:56:52 pm