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[OUTDATED] List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg359706#msg359706
« on: July 02, 2011, 02:59:12 pm »
New OP:

i have stopped with this community and the game, that is the reason i didn't update this post anymore. feel free to make a OP post, and i will put it there.
OK, I understand, not hte best solution though. Maybe someone else, who is active enough can start a new thread with the new decks & stats to replace this thread.
I might not be here much often, too. Ralouf?  ::)

So, my suggestion for a new Thread:

This Thread replaces the old one (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.0.html). It is meant to gather all anti Arena decks. A sort of Archive (however, every deck can enter). The better you deck winning % is against a certain rank (bronze, silver, gold or platinum) the higher it will be in this list. Everybody can submit stats of whatever deck they want. The minimum amount of games for a deck should be 40.

The Deck used against ALL:
The JMZ Puly/Sader by Essence seems to work all around:
Silver w:77 l:23   %: 77%
Gold w:14 l:7   %: 66%
Platinum w:127 l:128   %: 50%

The JMZ   by Essence (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28027.msg382197#msg382197)
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Decks used against Bronze:

Immortal Spirit Dimension by Mainiak
w:133 l:43   %: 75%

Immortal Spirit Dimension   by Mainiak (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29163.0.html)
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5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f6 5f6 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 621 621 621 621 621 8pu

Grabbix by kevkev60614 slightly modded
w:58   l:26   %: 70%

Grabbix   by kevkev60614 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0.html)
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Decks used against Silver:

Nothing Hurts Gravity by twixy10
w:13   l:7   %: 65%

Nothing Hurts Gravity   by Twixy10 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24777.msg337632#msg337632)
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Decks used against Gold:

The Shutdown by safko01 modded by Donot
w:10   l:10   %: 50%

The shutdown   by Safke01 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)
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more stats and some commentory on the deck:
 
I ran a set of 20 games, had a 50% win rate (10/10) nine of which were mastery, with a net increase in score of 1494 and gold of 2704.  I won 5 cards, managed at most 3 wins in a row (no rare spins), and it took roughly an hour.  Its biggest weaknesses are bad draws and sanctuary.

TADAbow by kirchj33 modded by kevkev60614
W:75 L:75 %: 50%

TADAbow   by kirchj33  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg389642#msg389642)
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Decks used against Platinum:

Sevs Cremation by Sevs
w:43 l:32   %: 57%

Sevs Cremation   by Sevs (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg389876#msg389876)
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5f2 5fc 5fc 6rl 77e 77e 77e 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dm 7dm 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 8pm

Pestal by SnoWeb
w:74   l:62   %: 54%

Fractal pests   by SnoWeb (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg387913#msg387913)
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The Shutdown by safko01 modded by Donot
w:13   l:14   %: 48%

The shutdown   by Safke01 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)
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Old OP:


This post is meant to gather all anti Arena decks. A sort of Archive (however, every deck can enter). The better you deck winning % is against a certain rank (bronze, silver, gold or platinum) the higher it will be in this list. Everybody can submit stats of whatever deck they want. The minimum amount of games nessecary before you can submit a deck is 20.

Decks used against bronze:

Decks used against Silver:

Nothing Hurts Gravity by twixy10 w:13   l:7   %: 65%

Nothing Hurts Gravity   by Twixy10 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24777.msg337632#msg337632)
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6rl 6rl 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 744 744 744 744 746 746 746 746 749 749 74a 74a 74b 74b 74b 74b 74i 74i 74i 74i 75m 75m 75m 75m 75m 8pl
The JMZ Classic by Essence   stats needed

The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League]   by Essence (http://http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28027.msg382197#msg382197)
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Decks used against Gold:


The Shutdown by safko01 modded by Donot w:10   l:10   %: 50%

The shutdown   by Safke01 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)
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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u8 74f 74f 77j 77j 7dm 7dm 7gp 7gq 7gs 7n5 7q4 7q5 7t6 7t6 7t6 7ta 7td 80i 80i 80i 8pj

more stats and some commentory on the deck:
 
I ran a set of 20 games, had a 50% win rate (10/10) nine of which were mastery, with a net increase in score of 1494 and gold of 2704.  I won 5 cards, managed at most 3 wins in a row (no rare spins), and it took roughly an hour.  Its biggest weaknesses are bad draws and sanctuary.

The JMZ Classic by Essence   stats needed

The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League]   by Essence (http://http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28027.msg382197#msg382197)
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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6tt 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 71b 745 74f 77g 77g 7ai 7an 7dl 7dq 7gv 7ju 7n3 7q5 7q5 7t9 7t9 80b 8pj
Decks used against Platinum:

Pestal by SnoWeb w:74   l:62   %: 54%

Fractal pests   by SnoWeb (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28170.msg387913#msg387913)
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7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t8 7t9 7t9 7t9 7t9 7ta 7ta 7tb 7td 7td 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 80i 80i 80i 80i 80iThe Shutdown by safko01 modded by Donot w:13   l:14   %: 48%

The shutdown   by Safke01 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)
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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u8 74f 74f 77j 77j 7dm 7dm 7gp 7gq 7gs 7n5 7q4 7q5 7t6 7t6 7t6 7ta 7td 80i 80i 80i 8pj

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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg359746#msg359746
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2011, 04:10:18 pm »
I'm gonna test Essences : with turntw, Timetw, $gain, streaks #, and score change.
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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg361218#msg361218
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 05:46:31 pm »
TADAbow,CCYB,RoL/hope,DoSa.And is impossible to have stats,deck changes over time.
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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg361219#msg361219
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 05:48:14 pm »
TADAbow,CCYB,RoL/hope,DoSa.And is impossible to have stats,deck changes over time.
If you take stats over time, you will get a fair look of the winrate with that deck. Even when the opponent is flexible (I think).

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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg361230#msg361230
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 06:14:57 pm »
I use Essence's deck -1 epi -1 shrieker -1 archangel, +1 crusader +1 pulvy +1 heal and get 7-8/10 games in gold, not so good for plat though cause people tend to have a lot of hp and healing.

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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg361337#msg361337
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 09:37:04 pm »
I don't know if this essence deck is a ruse or what but I have used two variations and both performed absolutely awful on Gold. The first variation I used was -1 archangel, +1 morning glory then I transitioned into the variation listed by parasite below.

Parasite claims to be getting a 70-80% win rate against gold however from my experiences the win rate against gold is more like 30-40%. There are far too many ways for decks to completely crush this deck for it to be effective.

PS. If there is some magical strat that suddenly makes this deck decent than so be it and I am mistaken, however I see a pretty rigid strategy and little to no wiggle room.

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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg361485#msg361485
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2011, 02:49:33 am »
I've used this deck against Gold with reasonable success.  I ran a set of 20 games, had a 50% win rate (10/10) nine of which were mastery, with a net increase in score of 1494 and gold of 2704.  I won 5 cards, managed at most 3 wins in a row (no rare spins), and it took roughly an hour.  Its biggest weaknesses are bad draws and sanctuary. 
 
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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg361514#msg361514
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2011, 03:40:48 am »
Anarke you probably do something wrong bro :(

I farmed today with it for like 2-3h and also got 6-7 spins and 4 rares out of it. Getting spins means that it's clearly capable of getting 4 games in a row in Gold. That would be very difficult if it had the win rate you are talking about Anarke.
It's having some troubles vs rushes if you have a bad hand and also vs poison, but it really rolls if you have a ulitharid, pulvy and demon in play with some shield (bone wall pref). Try use your steals on Sogs, helps a lot. It has little of everything, you can lobo with ulitharid, cc with demon and pc with pulvy and steal. It also gives some EMs (20%-30%).

I got a lot of score and electrum with that deck today and wanted to thank Essence and everyone who modded it for the deck. I'll may try to mod it a little by myself if I have time l8r.

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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg361716#msg361716
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2011, 11:12:50 am »
I've used this deck against Gold with reasonable success.  I ran a set of 20 games, had a 50% win rate (10/10) nine of which were mastery, with a net increase in score of 1494 and gold of 2704.  I won 5 cards, managed at most 3 wins in a row (no rare spins), and it took roughly an hour.  Its biggest weaknesses are bad draws and sanctuary. 
 
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(? = Entropy Mark, not a card)

I didn't write this deck, I found it in the forums a few months ago, made minor (long forgotten) changes to it then, and add it to my library of fun decks.  If you wrote it, let us know and I'll give you proper credit.
Safko01 Made this deck (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8420.msg104870#msg104870)

Added it to my list ;)

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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg362754#msg362754
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 10:36:25 am »
i use essences but with his edit which is -1 angel -1 grabby +1 pulvy +1 sader
i started a study but failed because i didnt know what i was doing (this was for gold) so i will just do TTW or i can try silver if u list everything i need to study

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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg362792#msg362792
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2011, 01:21:36 pm »
I used this today against platinum with a pretty good 22/6 win/loss ratio:
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7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t8 7t9 7t9 7t9 7t9 7ta 7ta 7tb 7td 7td 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 80i 80i 80i 80i 80iobviously if you face only speed-bows you will have a lower ratio.

EDIT: I just tried the shutdown (from safko01) mentioned above in Platinum and it happen to be almost as good (6/2) as the pestal. The 2 decks don't win against the same opponents but the proportion gives similar results.

EDIT 2 : After a while my stat when drastically down for the shut-down in platinum 13/14 whereas they remained almost as good for the pestal (with steal) 27/9. It seems that only the speedbows or rng fails are unbeatable with pestal.

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Re: List of decks used against Arena with Stats https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28170.msg362821#msg362821
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2011, 02:46:48 pm »
I used this today against platinum with a pretty good 22/6 win/loss ratio:
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7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t8 7t9 7t9 7t9 7t9 7ta 7ta 7tb 7td 7td 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 7um 80i 80i 80i 80i 80iobviously if you face only speed-bows you will have a lower ratio.

EDIT: I just tried the shutdown (from safko01) mentioned above in Platinum and it happen to be almost as good (6/2) as the pestal. The 2 decks don't win against the same opponents but the proportion gives similar results.

EDIT 2 : After a while my stat when drastically down for the shut-down in platinum 13/14 whereas they remained almost as good for the pestal (with steal) 27/9. It seems that only the speedbows or rng fails are unbeatable with pestal.
Both are added ;)

 

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