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Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg273354#msg273354
« on: February 18, 2011, 07:12:55 pm »
to farm FG's i thought to try a Rol/Hope Deck
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5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 6rn 6rn 6rn 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7jq 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80e 80e 80e 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i
and an Excel chart *g*

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so, after 200 games ... i won 37 cards, thats under 20%  :/ ok its over 50% if i count only the games i won ...


So my question to other Rol/Hope Farmers out there ... was it bad luck ?? or is it normal ??

oh and should i up my Hopes ?? (1 more quanta :/ )

Re: Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg273361#msg273361
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 07:26:19 pm »
Honestly? I only keep fighting if it's Miracle or Divine, and I pack in +2 Miracles +2 Luci -1 Elec -2 Hope -1 Fractal

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Re: Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg273367#msg273367
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 07:37:34 pm »
only Divine and Miracle ?

my score even now is negative ... but to skip 90% of all games oO

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Re: Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg273390#msg273390
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 08:02:06 pm »
37's not bad, your stats look reasonable enough.  Sometimes False Gods are just stingy and won't give anything away; not much we can do about that.

For some possible improvements:
-2 Fractal, +2 :aether Towers.  You can honestly probably actually use 5 Fractals, but you definitely need more Towers and I generally find that 5 Fractal clutters my hand too often.

Split your Towers into Towers/Pendulums.  I noticed you had issues with Seism and Dream Catcher, both of which use Quicksand quite a bit.  Currently if you were using 3 :aether Pendulums and 4 :aether Towers your chances of defeating both would probably be far greater since they can't target them all at once.

Do not upgrade your Hope Shields.  It may not seem like it, but that 1 extra cost is a huge issue when you're trying to power it with RoL.  You have to have that shield go up as fast as possible and there are far too many cases when you find yourself 1 quanta short from protecting yourself (plus Hope clogs your hand when Fractaling creatures which is another reason you want to play it as soon as possible).  The only advantage of using upped Hope is to gain a -1 damage reducer regardless of how many RoL you have on the field.  I personally would only find this useful against FGs who can wipe out all your RoL with a single spell (Hermes, Graviton, Eternal Phoenix, Morte) and 3 of these would still be near impossible regardless of this change.  You don't seem to have many issues with Morte so I would say this is an unwanted change.

Hopefully these improvements increase your win rate further.
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Re: Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg273554#msg273554
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 11:36:00 pm »
ok 2 more Towers (pendulum + tower) and 2 less Fractal ... i will try it :)

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Re: Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg273765#msg273765
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2011, 08:32:22 am »
-1 Hope (Hope becomes a dead card once you get one out, 3 gives you a good enough chance to draw it anyways)
-1 Fractal (You never need more than 5).
-1 RoL (Debateable, with 5 RoLs you almost always get one early anyways. Since you fractal them anyways, once you get one, the extras aren't quite as helpful).

+ 2/3 towers. Your preference matters on this one.

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Re: Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg275491#msg275491
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2011, 05:43:32 pm »
so, i took your improvements and changed my deck  // Towers and Pendulums (2 more) and -1 Fractal / -1 Rol

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next 200 games are over, my win rate slightly increased (5%), but unlucky for me this time my chance to win a card decreased (5% too)

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@ funerallaughter // think -1 Elec won't work, cause at least 20% of my defeats are from missing Elec's within first 15 Cards
@ willng3 // -2 Fractals (or -2 Rol, or -1 Hope) i think this won't work too, most of the games i lose, i lose because i dont get the fu***** Fractal / Hope / Rol ^^


any more advices ? *g* i take them all ^^

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Re: Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg275783#msg275783
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2011, 10:17:40 pm »
This is a nice excel table, and it looks simple.

But you know, most people donĀ“t speak or read German.
Some translations:

green column: won games
red column: lost games.
yellow column: skipped games.

last row= number of games.

Edit: Noticed the change. Excel sheet is now in English and in German.
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Re: Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg275841#msg275841
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 11:31:53 pm »
your right ... my fault ...

i upped a new excel sheet in english now :)

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Re: Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg276267#msg276267
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2011, 02:40:58 pm »
It's just luck you will always lose more then win.

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Re: Statistic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21377.msg276364#msg276364
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2011, 04:59:40 pm »
i aim for an 50% winning rate.

the last improvements brought 5%
i think another 5% are in for me with better game play (did some nasty errors last time ^^)

so i miss 5% *g* and perhaps the next idea brings the solution :)

 

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