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Rol/Hope vs Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29622.msg377070#msg377070
« on: August 08, 2011, 02:23:55 am »
I am almost 100% sure that it is impossible to beat Octane with a RoL/Hope deck... even on the best of draws the Buckler kills me...
Anyone out there ever beaten him with RoL/Hope? Any tips?

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Re: Rol/Hope vs Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29622.msg377100#msg377100
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2011, 04:08:08 am »
I don't know; I think RoL/Hope is a crappy deck because it fails to a lot of FGs like this.  Octane has Unstable Gas; instant death of all rays and the 20 damage gets by hope.  Octane has Eagle Eye, sniping all your rays one by one.  Octane has fire lance, bypassing hope.  Octane has a LOT of explosions, so sancs and SoGs are toast.  I thought it was Hermes that had Fire Buckler, but in any event, rays die in one attack to the buckler if Octane has it.

With my rainbow FG killer, I find one of the best things you can get against Octane is a protected pulverizer.  Smash unstable gases and most of your troubles go away.  A protected shield of some sort for the animated weapons, and you're probably good to go.  Heck, I've even decked Octane with a protected shield+pulverizer, because his deck is pretty small.

I don't know, maybe if your RoL/Hope packed six Silences and you chained them on about turn 2 onwards, but RoL/Hope takes awhile to set up compared to a lot of decks, so even that would be tough.  If Octane drew zero wind towers and didn't get fire buckler all game, you could win with rol/hope.

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Re: Rol/Hope vs Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29622.msg377104#msg377104
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2011, 04:15:23 am »
Not impossible, I've done it twice.  8)


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Re: Rol/Hope vs Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29622.msg377114#msg377114
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2011, 06:02:08 am »
@majofa: Now I've seen everything. Although, out of how many times? ::)
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Re: Rol/Hope vs Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29622.msg377137#msg377137
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2011, 07:56:38 am »
Svenningen is so far the only player known to have EMed Octane with hope rol. I have also killed him with hope rol once. I had just like majofa around 1-15 hp left and would have been killed the next turn. It always starts with octane not drawing any air towers and hopefully none of the shields too soon. Been 1 turn away from killing him several times. If you are about to win its always the shield that have stopped me.
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