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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Gemini https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg373395#msg373395
« Reply #132 on: July 30, 2011, 01:04:23 am »
Bump, probably should've made a new post instead of modifying the reserved one

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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Gemini https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg373409#msg373409
« Reply #133 on: July 30, 2011, 01:32:39 am »
I'd say Gemini is pretty well balanced. His only 'major' flaw comes from how AI plays TU. I guess he could get pends or something to make his gravity quanta more stable or more Electrocutors added in but he's neither too weak nor too strong in my view.

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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Gemini https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg373414#msg373414
« Reply #134 on: July 30, 2011, 01:41:59 am »
Stay the same:
Although he has no creature control other than Electrocutors, he's fast enough to get a Recluse and a Momentum out and + the tUs are enough to kill your healing if you have no CC. CCYB, RoL/Hope, etc.

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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Gemini https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg373486#msg373486
« Reply #135 on: July 30, 2011, 05:02:55 am »
He'd probably be more effective with a Gravity mark and fewer/no Gravity Towers, but he's fine as is - medium difficulty for both RoL/Hope and CCYB.
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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Gemini https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg375418#msg375418
« Reply #136 on: August 04, 2011, 09:48:49 am »
gemini is pretty balanced, i'd love to see 1/2 chimera in his deck btw (would be funny after his TU spam on spiders or dragons x])
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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Gemini https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg376102#msg376102
« Reply #137 on: August 06, 2011, 01:59:09 am »
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One of the tougher Fake Gods, Graviton starts off with Firemasters and powers them up with his :fire mark to hit the opponent hard. He has Momentums, Titans, and Elite Chargers on to bypass shields, Otyughs, Gravity Forces and Fire Storms for Creature Control, Gravity Shield and Armagios to defend, and 4 Explosions as Permanent Control for the icing on the cake.

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Lobomizer/Electrocuter
Effect: Weapon: deal 5 damages at the end of every turn. :aether :aether :aether /:aether remove any skill from the target creature.

Takes away Momentum and Devour (from Otyughs)

Gravity Shield
Effect: Shield: any creature that has more than 5 HP’s is unable to reach you.

With the exception of Chargers and anything he Momentums none of his creatures can bypass this shield.

Eternity
Effect: :time :time :time: Put a creature back in its owner’s deck.

No matter how much/how long he powers up his Firemasters, one Rewind will put it back to 0, and it removes Momentums (besides Elite Chargers).

Sundial
Effect: Stasis: creatures do not attack for 1 turn. :light : Hasten - Draw a card from your deck.

The only card that can go through this massive stopper is his Titans, more effective than most shields because his creatures can bypass with Momentum.
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Fine the way he is: 4

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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Graviton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg376108#msg376108
« Reply #138 on: August 06, 2011, 02:15:28 am »
Voted fine the way he is. The Explosions and Fire Storms, while annoying, are at a small enough quantity that there's a decent chance when playing against him that he won't get those cards.

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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Graviton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg376111#msg376111
« Reply #139 on: August 06, 2011, 02:27:27 am »
I voted nerf. He's one of the hardest Gods for RoL/Hope and CCYB, and even the counter deck often loses against him.
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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Graviton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg376113#msg376113
« Reply #140 on: August 06, 2011, 02:30:42 am »
First one I'm not voting anything besides 'leave alone' or 'too random for justified answer'. He's the single hardest god in the game imo.
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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Graviton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg376118#msg376118
« Reply #141 on: August 06, 2011, 02:52:10 am »
Seems like all of the fire based FG's are very hard(and this is even more true in arena).  Fire overall might need to be nerfed a little bit, especially explosion.  Doesn't need to be a huge nerf(even just adding more counters to it would be fine) but something needs to be done I think.

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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Graviton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg376194#msg376194
« Reply #142 on: August 06, 2011, 06:55:36 am »
First one I'm not voting anything besides 'leave alone' or 'too random for justified answer'.
This. I wouldn't vote anything other then "fine as it is" either.

I don't think Graviton is the hardest god out there (Rainbow and Hermes will have to share that title) but I do think hard FG's  need to exist. Farming FG's can be done with a wide variety of decks, it would be ridiculous if the current FG decks could start beating more then 60% of all FG's. IGT is already insanely good but has it's flaws (lack of speed).

As for Graviton, I love him. People building mini-gravitons in Arena are already a good sign. I think he's a popular FG and obviously very strong. He's unique in the way  his main power are Firemasters and Momentum, along with great CC and PC. His rushes aren't too quick and random (like Ferox, Hermes etc. can sometimes bash you into the ground in  4-5 turns) but once he get's set up, you're in for a challenge.

There are obvious ways to work around his strengths. A protected gravy shield would harm him alot and so would quinted mindflayers. It's not easy to pull off but I'd say this FG is balanced but strong.


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Re: Nerf or Buff? Featured FG: Graviton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26164.msg376491#msg376491
« Reply #143 on: August 06, 2011, 07:07:57 pm »
Bump.

You can't have too many easier FGs. Or else level 6 would be too unbalanced.

 

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