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Need deck to kill Morte, Scorpio, Serket (mostly unupped) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54070.msg1130234#msg1130234
« on: March 20, 2014, 11:58:41 PM »
Hi, as the title already suggests I'm looking for a deck that can reliably farm the FGs mentioned or at least 2 of them. It shouldn't include too many upped cards if possible, though I could potentially finance some upgrading.

To make this a little easier, here's a summary of my card pool: I think I have most rares and decent numbers for some of them. As for shards, I only have 3+ of green, light and gravity. The upped cards I have most notably include 7 Quantum towers, 6 Super Novas, 6 RoLs and 5 Hourglasses. The rest of my upgraded cards are mostly in quantities of 1 - 3.

Looking forward to seeing some suggestions!

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Re: Need deck to kill Morte, Scorpio, Serket (mostly unupped) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54070.msg1130236#msg1130236
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2014, 12:39:15 AM »
Serket can be completely owned with wings, because he has no flying creatures.  None of those FGs have any kind of permanent removal, so dimensional shields would be pretty strong as well.  They also all use poison, so purify is strong against all three.  I'd probably try to either make a duo with two of air/aether/water, or else a rainbow incorporating wings and/or dimensional shield, sundials, and other stall elements like that, while finding a slow but difficult to stop win condition.  (quinted blue nymph, phase dragons, quinted steam machine or firefly queen, weapons, etc, would all be difficult to deal with, although steam machine would struggle with morte's bone wall, but a shard of wisdom gets around that; firefly queen's flies chew up bonewalls pretty quickly)  I have some unupped FG counters in my signature; you could take a look at those and get some ideas for some FG-specific counters; you'd have to modify them to work against more than one FG, but it would give you a place to start.  I also have a link to upgraded FG counters in about the 2nd or 3rd post of the thread in my signature, which should give a few more ideas.

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Re: Need deck to kill Morte, Scorpio, Serket (mostly unupped) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54070.msg1130240#msg1130240
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2014, 01:07:26 AM »
Hey, thanks for the reply. I've been consulting your threads a lot.

Do you think something like this could work?

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Re: Need deck to kill Morte, Scorpio, Serket (mostly unupped) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54070.msg1130288#msg1130288
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2014, 10:52:44 AM »
You can use the decks for Morte and Scorpio fully unupped too:

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First learn how to play this, because it's not straightforward. You need a specific combo to make it work. I'm currenlty 10-6 with this against Morte, so there's a 37% chance that you might lose. 2 of my 10 wins were EMs.


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This one needs a bit strategy too. Don't use purifies too soon, or else you can get poisoned back again to a high level even after you applied the purify. I'm currently 5-2 with this deck, so there's a 28% chance that you might lose.
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Re: Need deck to kill Morte, Scorpio, Serket (mostly unupped) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54070.msg1130311#msg1130311
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2014, 03:50:52 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions. I should probably have clarified thought that I'm not looking for decks that can beat the individual FGs but for one that can handle all 3 of them (+any number of others potentially) so I could go and try FG farming with it.

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Re: Need deck to kill Morte, Scorpio, Serket (mostly unupped) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54070.msg1130312#msg1130312
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2014, 04:06:47 PM »
Serket is extremely easy with just Dims (like Destiny and Lionheart), and Wings are even worse for her. Buuut since Wings don't work against the other two, we'll skip those. With Morte having Miracles, you need Electrocutor to lobo his Rays. Since he relies on Poison just like Scorpio, and you need Electrocutor vs. Scorpio anyway because of his Physalia, you have yourself a counter with Water mark Purify Monoaether. Easy.

The toughest one will be Scorpio because of his Permafrost shield. This forces you to balance enough Purifies (I prefer running 5 for consistency), enough quanta and enough Phase Dragons. If you have Shards of Wisdom, that helps, but you can't pack less than 3 Phase Dragons nor less than 12 quanta. 13 is much preferable, but as you can see it's getting tough to build. This is why upgrades help a lot: with 12 towers you'll be fine most of the time.

Very much worth noting that MA and MA splashes beat the most amount of FG's for its incredibly cheap cost too. With PA's you can beat Seism and Dream Catcher (though they're still hard, you don't need a high win % to gain a lot from it). With PA's and PU's, you can beat Hermes. You can beat Miracle with any MA that has at least 5 Elite Phase Dragons and a Lobo by playing 1+Lobo and wait until you can kill in one turn before he Miracles (you can do 43 damage against Jade Shield). FFQ loses straight up to MA due to Lobos, Incarnate is easy and a few others are medium difficulty.
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Re: Need deck to kill Morte, Scorpio, Serket (mostly unupped) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54070.msg1130316#msg1130316
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2014, 04:30:03 PM »
Thanks a lot for the post. I managed to figure out that MA probably means Mono Aether, but you lost me at PU and PA. What are those, Parallel Universe + something?

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Re: Need deck to kill Morte, Scorpio, Serket (mostly unupped) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54070.msg1130318#msg1130318
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2014, 04:35:44 PM »


EA works too (unupped). Look at the Oracle threads and you have most good counter decks. There's one for every FG after all. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/strategy/
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Re: Need deck to kill Morte, Scorpio, Serket (mostly unupped) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54070.msg1130427#msg1130427
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 02:42:00 PM »
Well you were right, this deck has been working very well so far and I finally rolled my first Arsenic too!

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Re: Need deck to kill Morte, Scorpio, Serket (mostly unupped) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54070.msg1137301#msg1137301
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 11:45:40 PM »
okay check it,
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I can't remember what this deck is called but I've modded it slightly to give me a higher win % against poison decks. (decks with poison skill cards). It takes a butt ton of time quanta to execute. If you've seen the deck already I won't waste my time with the strategy, but if you want it, ask and I'll write it out.

Lobo anything with poison, purify if you are poisoned. that's all there is to it.
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