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Mono Death w/ SoSac FG farmer http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49514.msg1074686#msg1074686
« on: May 26, 2013, 08:10:11 PM »
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I took this from somebody else and decided to try it out.  I have made about 6k in 25 min (probably lucky roles) but then also put these into the simulator against false gods.

Here is what I got -

Number of runs: 200


Player
Wins: 130
Winrate: 65 %
Average TTW: 12.953846153846154
EMs: 50
EM rate: 38.46153846153846 %

Computer
Wins: 70
Winrate: 35 %
Average TTW: 10.057142857142857
EMs: 2
EM rate: 2.857142857142857 %

It's usually about 10-14 turns to victory which beats PDials and is way less boring.  I also would argue that it has a better chance of victory against some of the sanctuary/feral bonds that are thrown out there (deck also works in gold and platinum decently but do not have stats).

Anyone else try this mono death?
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Re: Mono Death w/ SoSac FG farmer w/ Stats http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49514.msg1074687#msg1074687
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2013, 08:11:52 PM »
It also seems to be a bit closer to 70 percent when doing more simulations (human and elemental's tool).
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Re: Mono Death w/ SoSac FG farmer w/ Stats http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49514.msg1074688#msg1074688
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2013, 08:26:11 PM »
I took this from somebody else and decided to try it out.  I have made about 6k in 25 min (probably lucky roles) but then also put these into the simulator against false gods.

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It's usually about 10-14 turns to victory which beats PDials and is way less boring.  I also would argue that it has a better chance of victory against some of the sanctuary/feral bonds that are thrown out there (deck also works in gold and platinum decently but do not have stats).

 ::) I'm sure you recorded your time wrong then.

Unless you played 2 matches and consider you won both matched spun 4 upgraded cards still, it will take longer than just 25 min.
Yes, adding one more SOsa gives you security. Taking out the sole bone wall too. However, leaving with 1 weapon is just not right for me. Btw, which deck did you test with? The old FG decks are available in the forum i think, perhaps, you should test against those and provide a statistic based on that. Good job tho.
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Re: Mono Death w/ SoSac FG farmer w/ Stats http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49514.msg1074689#msg1074689
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2013, 08:34:36 PM »
Mm, this entire thread and simulation was done long ago and it's still not accurate. The simulator doesn't quite work with this type of deck. In my experience the winrate is around 50%. It's not a bad FG killer by any means, but you don't have stats because you ran it through the simulator. Stats still have to be taken by human players, since that is what we are. I strongly suggest you change your thread name.

neuro, there's no Bone Wall and it already has 6 SoSa's. A lone Arse is fine because of how it's built.
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Re: Mono Death w/ SoSac FG farmer http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49514.msg1074693#msg1074693
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 09:00:24 PM »
So...what's wrong with the sim on AI level 5?  Human stat taking totally sucks....And yes I believe it was closer to an hour for the previous 6k electrum
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Re: Mono Death w/ SoSac FG farmer http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49514.msg1074705#msg1074705
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 09:29:24 PM »
I put it through the simulator for 5000 runs. This is the result:

Player
Wins: 2610
Winrate: 52.2 %
Average TTW: 11.268199233716475
EMs: 655
EM rate: 25.095785440613028 %

Computer
Wins: 2390
Winrate: 47.8 %
Average TTW: 8.60418410041841
EMs: 23
EM rate: 0.9623430962343096 %

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Re: Mono Death w/ SoSac FG farmer http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49514.msg1074710#msg1074710
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2013, 10:03:41 PM »
Well 52 % isnt too bad considering PDials takes FREAKING FOREVER TO PLAY and is just too boring for me zzz :)
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Re: Mono Death w/ SoSac FG farmer http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49514.msg1081783#msg1081783
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2013, 12:04:33 PM »
testing, looks awesome. 6 games, 3wins with EM and 4 cards spon, 3 loss but all vs dreamcatcher with 1 pillar start... :-)
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