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Title: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Hazardus10 on March 17, 2013, 08:28:12 pm
Hi everyone,

I've been working hard creating a fun and unique deck which involve malignant cells. You would not believe how effective these little guys are against FGs.  Malignant are quite effective because they never targeted, with simple combination of SoP, this make for a nice high damaging and effective deck. Games go quick and all gods are playable.

Previously I had been using poison dial decks, unfortunately, some gods were unplayable, so I decided to make a deck which would be usable against any god.

Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
710 710 710 710 710 710 71c 71c 71c 71u 71u 71u 71u 71u 71u 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7k2 7km 7km 7km 7la 7la 7la 7la 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 8pk


The deck is very simple to use and is friendly to players of all levels.  The deck is based around using aflatoxin against your own ray of light, once the ray of light becomes a malignant cell, use SoP to increase the attack and defence of your malignant cells.  Use sundials, and SoSa to stall while your malignant cells increase their offence. Once they have enough offence to kill the God, destroy SoP.

Some Examples of Gameplay Below:

(http://i.imgur.com/tg8oSmq.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/TmLvC4H.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/yjwMbTL.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/x3BnunF.png)



The win percentage of this deck falls somewhere between 55-60%.  That is the win percentage without skips, every god is played :D.
With skips this deck is around 75%.
Need some more testing to be done.

Usually when you win, it is EM.

Could someone test this deck out some more and post stats?
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage!
Post by: TribalTrouble on March 18, 2013, 12:54:42 am
"The win percentage of this deck falls somewhere between 55-60%That is the win percentage without skips, every god is played .
Without skips this deck is around 75%."
without skips 55-60%
Without skips 75%

I didn't know capitalizing 1 letter improved the win percent so much!  :P

Looks cool, I'll go try it out :]

edit: So what gods did you skip? o.O
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage!
Post by: Hazardus10 on March 18, 2013, 12:55:17 am
"The win percentage of this deck falls somewhere between 55-60%That is the win percentage without skips, every god is played .
Without skips this deck is around 75%."
without skips 55-60%
Without skips 75%

I didn't know capitalizing 1 letter improved the win percent so much!  :P

Looks cool, I'll go try it out :]

Oops I mean with skips xD
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage!
Post by: TribalTrouble on March 18, 2013, 02:09:59 am
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
4vj 52s 710 710 710 710 710 710 71c 71c 71u 71u 71u 71u 71u 7gk 7gk 7gk 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7k2 7km 7km 7km 7la 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 8pk

Due to not having all those cards upped, this is what I came up with. Thanks for this deck! Pretty dang fun! :]
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage!
Post by: Hazardus10 on March 18, 2013, 02:57:56 am
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
4vj 52s 710 710 710 710 710 710 71c 71c 71u 71u 71u 71u 71u 7gk 7gk 7gk 7hi 7hi 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7k2 7km 7km 7km 7la 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 8pk

Due to not having all those cards upped, this is what I came up with. Thanks for this deck! Pretty dang fun! :]

Glad you enjoyed it :D
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: ohnodavido on March 19, 2013, 03:16:03 pm
would miracle not go well in this deck?
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: CuCN on March 19, 2013, 03:22:41 pm
If you didn't notice, there is a miracle in the deck.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Chapuz on March 19, 2013, 03:55:00 pm
What do you do against PC FGs?
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: rob77dp on March 19, 2013, 05:39:02 pm
The deck is very simple to use and is friendly to players of all levels.
I must be missing something (not that that's difficult to accomplish).  How, exactly, is a deck that contains 12 rares and is 100% upped "friendly to players of all levels"?

I do not mean to step on anyone's toes by answering in-place of the originator, but it seems to me that original statement means in terms of playing ability and/or experience with playing FG's as opposed to new-ness to EtG and your relative card collection.  Frequently, those are similar or the same but by nature new to FG's or vs AI =/= new to EtG.

I could also be very wrong... :)


Edit:  Apparently Pella is deleting posts, which then make my comments seem out of place.  However, I try never to delete posts so I am adding strikethrough to my original (now defunct) comments.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: rob77dp on March 19, 2013, 06:02:37 pm
I see.  It was "all levels" that confused me.  To me, "all" means, "without exclusion; including everything that is available to be included".  Obviously, I misinterpreted the word, since in this case it apparently means, "including everyone who is capable of playing such a deck, regardless of that person's experience with False Gods".  As I said, it's very easy for me to miss something.  Thanks for clearing that up.

"All" isn't the word at the crux of this (in my opinion), but rather "levels".  I took levels to mean, in this case,  "playing ability and FG experience" and you have interpreted it as "card collection and access to rares/upgrades".  Anyways, I don't think it is really worth getting hung-up on that aspect of it, but rather the deck itself.  I plan to give it some test-run vs FG's and see how it compares to my current (also not newb-card-collection-friendly) PDials 32 (32 card Poison Dials) in FGei(cn)...

(Sidenote:  I cannot tell if you were using invisible-sarcasm-font or genuinely offended on your last post...?)


Edit:  Apparently Pella is deleting posts, which then makes this a double-post and my comments out-of-place.  However, I try never to delete posts so I am adding strikethrough to my original (now defunct) comments.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: TribalTrouble on March 19, 2013, 08:14:56 pm
This may require another SoP to be added. If you don't draw that... =/
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Hazardus10 on March 19, 2013, 11:40:54 pm
The deck is very simple to use and is friendly to players of all levels.
I must be missing something (not that that's difficult to accomplish).  How, exactly, is a deck that contains 12 rares and is 100% upped "friendly to players of all levels"?

I do not mean to step on anyone's toes by answering in-place of the originator, but it seems to me that original statement means in terms of playing ability and/or experience with playing FG's as opposed to new-ness to EtG and your relative card collection.  Frequently, those are similar or the same but by nature new to FG's or vs AI =/= new to EtG.

I could also be very wrong... :)

You are quite right :) , obtaining the cards is the hard part, but using the deck is easy!
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Hazardus10 on March 19, 2013, 11:42:43 pm
This may require another SoP to be added. If you don't draw that... =/

You can always -1 Light pend and +1 SoP
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: timetock on March 20, 2013, 03:49:28 am
cells don't get targeted? is that right?

I thought when a creature reaches a certain point and it's a threat to the FG then the FG will always try to kill the creature (even wasting rain of fires and fire bolts, etc)
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Hazardus10 on March 20, 2013, 10:15:25 am
cells don't get targeted? is that right?

I thought when a creature reaches a certain point and it's a threat to the FG then the FG will always try to kill the creature (even wasting rain of fires and fire bolts, etc)

Rarely do they get targeted, most games I play the FG usually used fire bolt on my hp itself, and it never played RoF, or Plagues, it also never freeze the cell.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Hazardus10 on March 20, 2013, 10:21:45 am
What do you do against PC FGs?

This deck is will work against almost all shields, with exception of the Gravity shield.  For Phase shield just stall, malignant cells attack enough times to counter bone wall, and the other shields don't attack unless you are within KO range. Decks using constant steals and defrags are a nuissance but since this deck is a low quanta usage deck, you won't run into to many problems.  The 2 decks which are tougher to face are , Octane and Decay (Fractal Devourers).
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: rob77dp on March 20, 2013, 03:24:01 pm
What do you do against PC FGs?

This deck is will work against almost all shields, with exception of the Gravity shield.  For Phase shield just stall, malignant cells attack enough times to counter bone wall, and the other shields don't attack unless you are within KO range. Decks using constant steals and defrags are a nuissance but since this deck is a low quanta usage deck, you won't run into to many problems.  The 2 decks which are tougher to face are , Octane and Decay (Fractal Devourers).

PC False Gods are the ones with Permanent Control, i.e. - Explosion, Pulverizer, Steal, and Butterfly Effect.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Hazardus10 on March 20, 2013, 10:31:22 pm
What do you do against PC FGs?

This deck is will work against almost all shields, with exception of the Gravity shield.  For Phase shield just stall, malignant cells attack enough times to counter bone wall, and the other shields don't attack unless you are within KO range. Decks using constant steals and defrags are a nuissance but since this deck is a low quanta usage deck, you won't run into to many problems.  The 2 decks which are tougher to face are , Octane and Decay (Fractal Devourers).

PC False Gods are the ones with Permanent Control, i.e. - Explosion, Pulverizer, Steal, and Butterfly Effect.

Decks using constant steals and defrags are a nuissance but since this deck is a low quanta usage deck, you won't run into too many problems.  Earthquake, may be a problem, as well as SoF.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Khaalis on April 16, 2013, 07:37:15 am
I have found that Hermes is bugged against this deck.  With Fire Buckler out, it kills every newly formed Malignant Cell even when SoP is on the board. It won't however kill them if you have a Sundial down.  Has anyone else seen this problem?
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: CuCN on April 16, 2013, 07:48:36 am
I have found that Hermes is bugged against this deck.  With Fire Buckler out, it kills every newly formed Malignant Cell even when SoP is on the board. It won't however kill them if you have a Sundial down.  Has anyone else seen this problem?

SoP delays and buffs creatures before the cells are generated. This means that the new cells are not delayed, so they attack into the shield and die immediately.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: joaoffb on May 01, 2013, 03:26:29 pm
My results havent been nearly as good. can you write a guide?
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: timetock on May 03, 2013, 01:09:50 am
Wait, do cells die from flood?
they DO die, right?
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Hazardus10 on May 03, 2013, 01:48:17 am
Wait, do cells die from flood?
they DO die, right?

Nope, flood doesn't affect neutral creatures.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Brontos on May 06, 2013, 05:15:01 am
I removed the Miracle because I never have the Light to cast it. Also, it is quite rare that casting it or not may affect the outcome.
Added a SoP because it is too hard to win without it.
I swiched to Light mark and added more Water and Death towers. This way, I can play early Sundials if I want to draw the combo more quickly. I found myself out of Death quantas a few times vs tower destruction FG thou.

I am now much more close to the 50% wins than with the original version. Great deck idea!

My main reasons of losses are:
- fire wall (I really dońt have a clue how to play against this wall)
- didn't draw the combo
- poor sacrifice plays (working on that by hitting my heal in the wall).
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Fujiiro on May 13, 2013, 04:04:33 pm
Played 20 matches with the following results:
17 losses, 3 wins (all EM).

Won against Elidnis, Lionheart and Fire Queen.  Losses were to Decay (4 times), Miracle (twice), Osiris (twice), Graviton (twice), Eternal Phoenix, Akebono, Chaos Lord, Dream Catcher, Seism, Serket and Gemini.

My gut impression is that this deck is way too bloated and needs to be scaled down to no more than 32 cards. I will try testing with a deck that removes all light cards except the RoLs.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Fujiiro on May 13, 2013, 05:16:20 pm
Tested a 32 card version that had all light cards (except RoLs) removed and a 3rd SoP.  Results were much better:
8 wins in 20 matches (including a concede against Gemini).

6 were EM wins: Destiny, Ferox, Elidnis, Hecate (got lucky on that one), Jezebel, Osiris (had a near perfect opening hand).
2 non-EM wins: Dark Matter and Scorpio

Losses to Decay, Seism (twice), Octane (twice), Morte (twice), Neptune, Obliterator, Hermes (played Firestorm with no RoLs or SoP out) and Hecate.

Conceded against Gemini.

Deck still needs more reliability on getting the combo out quickly.  Lost at least twice due to late SoP draws, particularly against Hermes, which I would have won otherwise.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: MartyMo on May 26, 2013, 06:36:13 pm
Doesnt seem much different than Poison dial to me.
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Romanji92 on June 17, 2014, 05:17:24 am
Here is an update to the deck, the combo is quicker, there is less electrum wastage and it is more consistant.

I win most of my matches that i don't concede.

http://dek.im/d/z152sz35l9z171cz571uz17hiz37i6z37laz57q98pk
(http://dek.im/cache/z152sz35l9z171cz571uz17hiz37i6z37laz57q98pk.png)
8 penduliums are enough, in the origanal version there was too much wastage.

Deck now has 12 stall cards, 6 of which speed up the deck if needed, 8 resource cards and 10 combo cards.

Don't need to upgrade the photons.

Can possibly add one more shard just incase of bad draws.

Try it out and see if you like it.

Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: edupro123 on August 11, 2014, 10:39:32 pm
is there any way to play it with just 2 sosacs? my luck sucks and i have like 10 of each other shard.... like using shards of bravery?
Title: Re: Malignant Cell OTK Pwnage! Fun and reliable FG farmer!
Post by: Submachine on August 11, 2014, 10:57:23 pm
This deck seems a bit outdated to me. You should test it in the Trainer, because there is a chance that you won't even like it.
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