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Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg513264#msg513264
« on: June 20, 2012, 10:20:02 pm »
Hey im new and i'm just ai3 farming right now and i'm not sure which FG deck to go for...
idc if it's upped or ununpped

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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg513266#msg513266
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2012, 10:23:33 pm »
Instosis, SoSac dials, rol/hope, limitless speed otk

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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg513373#msg513373
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2012, 04:50:45 am »
i did ROL Hope as my first FG farmer. but ive heard good things about limitless speed so IDK.

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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg513381#msg513381
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2012, 05:24:17 am »
Instosis is the best one.  SoSac dials is pretty good, too.  RoL/Hope isn't that great, but it only really needs the rays upgraded, so it's cheap to make, which is the main reason people use it.  I've never tried limitless speed, but I'd guess it's a lower win rate than instosis.  I've GotP Time is also a good one, and there are some various CCYB decks you can make that are pretty good, and more fun than anything else I've mentioned in this post, although be careful with the ones you'll find on the forums; most of them aren't really optimal, but the idea behind them is sound.  The cheapest deck to make is probably liquid antimatter; it can only beat a few FGs, though.

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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg513407#msg513407
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2012, 07:17:39 am »
Limitless speed can be made with only six ups as well.
Here is the link.
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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg513492#msg513492
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2012, 03:09:43 pm »
at this point there are few enough gods that liquid antimatter can beat, that you might actually lose electrum
ROL needs 6 ups and 3 lobos and gets 20-25% winrate, which seems bad, and is for score, but is an amazing first step to gettinga good FG deck
limitless speed also only needs 6 ups, but requires no rares. i am not sure of the exact winrate but some claim its way better and some claim its way worse than ROL. i have tried it, and i personally prefer ROL, but if you dont have the lobos then you do what you can.

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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg513504#msg513504
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2012, 03:44:44 pm »
alright thanks guys gonna go for limitless speed

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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg522148#msg522148
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2012, 06:59:10 am »


Some time ago WIZY post a deck with higher win ratio against FG or HB,
maybe you wanna try it.

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Easy to build, easy to play.

Against AI - level 5, FakeGods. FalseGods.
Player
Wins: 44
Winrate: 44 %
Average TTW: 16.886363636363637
EMs: 4
EM rate: 9.090909090909092 %

Computer
Wins: 56
Winrate: 56 %
Average TTW: 15.410714285714286
EMs: 11
EM rate: 19.642857142857142 %
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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg522653#msg522653
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 01:33:56 am »
a fully unupped deck with 40% winrate vs FGs?! i dont know if the simulator is broken, or if that deck is just really cool. ive never heard of anything that good. why have i not seen that deck before?

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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg522667#msg522667
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 02:35:50 am »
I couldn't believe what I saw, so I did a more extensive simulation to get more accurate reults, and yep, its is close to 40%.
Spoiler for 10,000 games:
Player
Wins: 3918
Winrate: 39.18 %
Average TTW: 17.828483920367535
EMs: 297
EM rate: 7.580398162327718 %

Computer
Wins: 6082
Winrate: 60.82 %
Average TTW: 15.02022361065439
EMs: 992
EM rate: 16.310424202564946 %
Still, it is just theory, the simulator might have several unnoticed bugs.

Edit: Either the simulator fails or I do. Just played 23 games manually... 23 losses in a row. Winrate so far: 0%
« Last Edit: July 17, 2012, 03:38:31 am by Wizy »
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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg522750#msg522750
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 11:03:34 am »


It is close to 40%, I tried myself and won a couple of times, mostly when you get a dragon or 2 and lobo in the early game, is most likely you will win, coz the phase shields will come when you need them the most.

Look, If you don't like the mono-aether, I made another decks a while ago and most of them work with fake goods too, originally was too farm HB with a ratio above 50%, but they do work on FG's.
Here is the link.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,41567.msg515155.html#msg515155

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Re: Help? FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41412.msg522782#msg522782
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2012, 01:47:50 pm »
YES! Mono-Aether FTW! I'm not trying to turn this into a Deck Help thread, but @JuneIsSunny, I think the deck might work a teensy bit better if you did -1 Aether Pillar and +1 Lobotomizer if you have another. Enjoy! :)
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