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Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1178114#msg1178114
« on: February 02, 2015, 10:01:17 pm »
Is Fire Cell still viable against False gods? I hope so. If it isn't, there's gotta be similar deck options to it (against False gods). Thank you!

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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1178115#msg1178115
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2015, 10:08:48 pm »
It's still viable.

Its win rate, however, is somewhere around 25%. I've heard people cite it as 30%, some as 20%.

For me, the winrate is 5%.

With persistence, though, it's still profitable.

Some other unupped decks you can try involve Limitless Speed and RoL/Hope - Check the community recommended decks section. Firecell is the only truly unupped grinder, though.

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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1178116#msg1178116
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2015, 10:18:47 pm »
Firecell is the only truly unupped grinder, though.

Devonian frotkal? its less known but is the one that worked for me
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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1178122#msg1178122
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2015, 10:48:47 pm »
Firecell is the only truly unupped grinder, though.
Devonian frotkal? its less known but is the one that worked for me
I think the dev frotkal got outshadowed by Firecell because the the stall is pretty much the same and it needs less cards for the combo after all.
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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1178140#msg1178140
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2015, 12:11:54 am »
What's the % on Fast Draw False God killer? % for Limitless Speed? How's Instosis %? What about Rainbow Mass Mutant's %? I'm looking for the best % option for the select deck(s) that I wanna build on. I'm picky. Thank you alot!

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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1178143#msg1178143
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2015, 12:42:04 am »
if you want an unupped shardless FG grinder, mono :aether is the best (as always)...

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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1178230#msg1178230
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2015, 02:23:53 pm »
The most popular at the moment is either starting with no upgrades with Firecell or make any AI4 rainbow grinder from the community recommended decks, get 6 upgrades and continue with Limitless Speed. Get a lot of upgraded cards with Limitless, sell the ones you don't need at the moment and make a semi unupped Bronze grinder for shards. Then you can go FGs with shards
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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1222288#msg1222288
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2016, 03:38:16 pm »
I feel like this is no longer viable...I'm not sure why.

I've followed the "rags to riches" thread and have gotten to the false gods "build the firecell" part and have not won a single match in over 15 tries. I've even downgraded to see if I can win at AI4 or AI3 with firecell and i lose there too. So now I'm stuck at FG without a way to beat ANY of them, and I have no more money either. :(

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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1222293#msg1222293
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2016, 04:07:17 pm »
Firecell is a 'gmmick' deck that has a similar chance of winning vs AI3 as against FGs. It's only profitable because it has that 20 or whatever percent win rating against FGs. However, there are many gods that it simply has no chance against-- and it's not much of a stretch to lose 20 times in a row if it keeps getting those gods.

Go back to grinding bronze/Ai3/Ai4 (with your previous deck) to get your reserves back up.
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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1222294#msg1222294
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2016, 04:09:46 pm »
Firecell is a 'gmmick' deck that has a similar chance of winning vs AI3 as against FGs. It's only profitable because it has that 20 or whatever percent win rating against FGs. However, there are many gods that it simply has no chance against-- and it's not much of a stretch to lose 20 times in a row if it keeps getting those gods.

Go back to grinding bronze/Ai3/Ai4 (with your previous deck) to get your reserves back up.
Additionally, make sure you're playing the combo correctly, since the deck doesn't work otherwise.

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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1222295#msg1222295
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2016, 04:17:46 pm »
You can make limitless work with 3 ups. It's not such a long grind to get there and can be done entirelly on level 3/bronze.
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Re: Fire cell still viable? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57507.msg1222296#msg1222296
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2016, 04:32:53 pm »
Firecell is a 'gmmick' deck that has a similar chance of winning vs AI3 as against FGs. It's only profitable because it has that 20 or whatever percent win rating against FGs. However, there are many gods that it simply has no chance against-- and it's not much of a stretch to lose 20 times in a row if it keeps getting those gods.

Go back to grinding bronze/Ai3/Ai4 (with your previous deck) to get your reserves back up.

Thanks for the info... should I go back to it after i build back up or do you recommend some alternative?

 

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