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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1111034#msg1111034
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2013, 04:43:29 PM »
Well, if the thread becomes obsolete in 1.4, then so be it, but if it continues to help people until then, I see no reason not to keep it going. 

Right there with you 100%. Nothing I said should be taken to mean I think this isn't a good idea. Definitely keep going.

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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1111364#msg1111364
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2013, 05:12:10 PM »
Got Destiny and won again.  At this point, I'm ready to consider Destiny countered; without a ridiculous mutation/fate egg hatch or an incredibly bad draw, there's no way that deck can lose.

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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1111376#msg1111376
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2013, 06:15:21 PM »
Good ol' monoaether, show's Destiny whatfor.
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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1113549#msg1113549
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2013, 03:16:14 AM »
Just an update: I will not bother posting any deck ideas that completely fail in the future.  I will only bother to post decks that win, or look like they have potential to win, if I lost with them.

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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1113612#msg1113612
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2013, 06:05:30 PM »
Just an update: I will not bother posting any deck ideas that completely fail in the future.  I will only bother to post decks that win, or look like they have potential to win, if I lost with them.

That's all I've been doing too, it does upset me that I get to see I've only had around 7 successful decks in nearly a month but ah well, all in the name of progress.

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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1118746#msg1118746
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2014, 07:13:32 AM »
Despite only playing one game against Serket just now, I'm ready to declare him countered.  I used the unupped version of my upped counter and got an EM, and the upped version has an 18-1 record, with the one loss coming only because it got 0 wings all game.  The unupped version will get a lot less EMs, since wings will normally be 1-2 turns slower than the upped version, but it should get nearly as high a win percentage.

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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1118760#msg1118760
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2014, 10:17:03 AM »
I counter the FG predicted by the oracle every day on my alt-account (unupped).

If you're interested I can post every deck I'm using (mainly modded versions from the wiki decks).

Only thing that I recognized, when I've taken a quick look over your counters, was this:

Spoiler for your Fire Queen counter:
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I used Sundials against Fire Queen for a while. Then it did cost me the victory once, because you can't play out the combo instantly, if you've got a sundial in your hand.
Means -1 Vulture from fractal or waiting a turn. Against her fire lances an additional turn can be risky in the late game. Especially when you're low on HP.

So I switched back to dims + hourglasses only.
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Got to play a few more times against her with this before I know if this is reliable.

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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1118778#msg1118778
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2014, 01:38:04 PM »
Sure, if you want.  It might be better to start another thread for that, since it will be a rather large post, though.  Some people will definitely get a use out of it, and I know at least for myself I never even look at the wiki.

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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1128272#msg1128272
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2014, 08:21:54 PM »
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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1128830#msg1128830
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2014, 07:37:41 AM »
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  Just worked for me against Graviton (Blessed Otys from the other thread).  One miracle is pretty mandatory, but the second miracle and SoD were played on my final turn to increase reward, and I would've won with only one.  One rare isn't a ton for fairly new players to have, and might be a good option to have in the thread (along with any fully non-rare counters).   Maybe put this deck with a -1 miracle -1 sod +1 blessing +1 momentum for those without the rares but this as the default for those who do?

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Re: Dragonslaying 101 (Or, how to beat the false gods unupped with oracle counters) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52272.msg1129107#msg1129107
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2014, 11:25:06 AM »
Used your deck against Akebano, and wanted to say that you also have a chance of not getting any NT (My first one was my 13th card). Just some feedback; love this thread BTW.
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