Post by: Infulgeo on October 28, 2011, 12:48:29 am
-Infulgeo
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 28, 2011, 12:54:11 am
Before 1.29, this was the best fg farmer. It's still pretty nice, but SoG took a bit of a hit.
The next best after those would be some sort of rainbow control; there's several different versions possible. I'd advise you to make your own, though; most of the rainbow control decks I've seen on the forum aren't as good as they could be.
The next 20 posts will probably tell you to play RoL/Hope. Don't listen.
edit: As for win rates, the first deck was reported to have something like 67-69% wins. The second had about 60% wins before SoG nerf, but that shouldn't change much. I have played both these decks, and while I haven't tabulated results for them, these are definitely in the ballpark for accuracy. The best rainbow control deck I've built can win about 50%, and I actually prefer it because it's more fun than the above two.
RoL/Hope has a piss-poor win %; I've seen claims that it wins somewhere in the 30s %, but I think that they aren't counting skips for bad matchups, because in my experience it's not really that high. Proponents of this deck claim that despite the skips, you can win a decent amount of upgraded cards/hour because you concentrate on pwning the few gods this deck does beat. That might well be true, but that kind of play style is not for me.
Post by: furballdn on October 28, 2011, 01:03:39 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on October 28, 2011, 01:07:44 am
Use upped SoSas if you have them, obviously. I only have 1 upped and 5 unupped so far. (the blank cards)
Post by: xsindomanx on October 28, 2011, 05:19:35 am
The following posts (not made by me) may interest you:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31072.12.html (scroll down a bit for anti-FG info and look up "deck name" elements the game on google, or whatever method you have of searching decks)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25609.0.html (just a very interesting study of a lot of decks :P)
Post by: Djhopper :) on October 28, 2011, 11:21:09 am
Before 1.29, this was the best fg farmer. It's still pretty nice, but SoG took a bit of a hit.Actually:
Fast-Draw Ghostal was the best deck before 1.29. I've got time only had the highest win-percentage (just)
deck Fast-Draw Ghostal players 10 men Statmasta™realtec
version 1.285
win-rate 69,4% $ track ? enabled
win-rate (n) 69,26% games 500
Score/h 938 win-loss-(EM) 347-153-(259)
Score/h (n) 949 time (h:m:s) 35:46:43
FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html) 6167 min/game 04:18
FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html) 6276
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Dark Matter
Decay
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Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
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Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
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Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
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Post by: Infulgeo on October 30, 2011, 10:04:02 pm
-Infulge ;D
Post by: LAMA00619 on November 21, 2011, 04:29:44 pm
Instosis is a WHOPPER of a deck, but you HAVE to have the shards of readiness (not so easy to get in my experience).
the "i've GOTP" deck works unupped as well, and doesn't need healing (it increasis win% though, not saying that).
if you want a cheaper deck, with only 6 upped cards (no rares) i strongly suggest (PLEASE NOTE: i did not create this deck, and do not claim credit for it)
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28482 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28482)
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Post by: eaglgenes101 on February 15, 2012, 01:57:33 am
Post by: mesaprotector on February 15, 2012, 05:30:21 am
Upped, of course, Instosis is probably your best bet. If you don't want to be so cliché, there are plenty of :time / :aether duos that work well (like Fast-Draw Ghostal, I've GotP Time).
Speaking of which, does anybody have stats for SPlat versus FGs? I wonder if it might actually do very well.
Post by: furballdn on February 15, 2012, 05:40:20 am
Speaking of which, does anybody have stats for SPlat versus FGs? I wonder if it might actually do very well.Wasn't it around ~55%? I'm not sure, but I think I saw that number somewhere on SPlat's effectiveness.
Post by: Chapuz on February 15, 2012, 02:28:59 pm
Post by: sluggy on March 08, 2012, 04:48:04 pm
i will sometimes alter it slightly, adding another SOG, taking out 3 precogs and adding 1 hourglass and an anubis and a twin universe, this is purely to make it more interesting for me.
i was asked why i use precogs and hourglasses, this is purely to combat explosions/steals allowing me 3 precogs to still rush the deck slightly, PLUS it shows opponents cards (as i use this deck in silver arena too) so i can get a tip on whether to save a shield or gotp, until they play a certain card.
p.s. i know this is ghostal, but the 1 above with 52 cards seems too many. i sometimes also lower my cardcount to 40. hope this helps :)
Post by: Poker Alho on March 08, 2012, 05:05:01 pm
For 6 upped only, Limitless Speed FG OTK (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31572.html) is the one I recommend (not because I built it, of course. Stats are stats) :Pi support you, i love your deck lol and i think it has a very good win rate considering it doesnt even use rares :D(except the fattier versions with SoG)
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 08, 2012, 05:31:37 pm
SPlat probably does fairly well on FGs. It'll probably lose to all of the feral bond/purify/miracle decks (ferox, fire queen, scorpio, miracle, divine glory, rainbow, etc), but there's still quite a few it should excel at. I've tried using SPlat against Graviton when the oracle predicts him, for example, and I haven't lost yet. I'll bet it would work pretty well against Hermes, too, but I haven't tried it there. I try to use 500hp EM for oracle predictions whenever possible, and Instosis if that won't win; after that, it's more custom builds.Speaking of which, does anybody have stats for SPlat versus FGs? I wonder if it might actually do very well.Wasn't it around ~55%? I'm not sure, but I think I saw that number somewhere on SPlat's effectiveness.
Post by: Lex on March 20, 2012, 11:17:36 pm
This deck is the best fg farmer I know of. I didn't create it, though; I think Sevs did.Week ago I was using Instosis, but since a few days I am using Poison Dials and I think it is better deck. Why? Maybe it has lesser amount of "easy FGs" but it plays better and more fluently overall. I think all calculations during play are easier and with SoSacs every easy FG gives me EM almost every time = much much more money after win.
<Instosis deck here>
Post by: Chapuz on May 06, 2012, 09:54:07 pm
For 1.30+: Instosis, SPlat or Poison Dials with SoSa?
Post by: AP579 on May 06, 2012, 10:06:06 pm
SPlat doesn't work effectively; too many gods with miracles, bonds, and purifies.
Not sure about poison dials, haven't tried it.
Post by: theratiscool on July 20, 2012, 08:18:30 pm
Post by: Chapuz on July 20, 2012, 08:50:58 pm
is haveing all upgrated cards good for beting a fg?Good FG farmers are with at least 6 upgraded cards. Having more increases the win rate, of course.
Post by: Yoker420 on June 28, 2013, 03:55:49 pm
well ive tried all sorts against FGs, and i seem to do best with this
i will sometimes alter it slightly, adding another SOG, taking out 3 precogs and adding 1 hourglass and an anubis and a twin universe, this is purely to make it more interesting for me.
i was asked why i use precogs and hourglasses, this is purely to combat explosions/steals allowing me 3 precogs to still rush the deck slightly, PLUS it shows opponents cards (as i use this deck in silver arena too) so i can get a tip on whether to save a shield or gotp, until they play a certain card.
p.s. i know this is ghostal, but the 1 above with 52 cards seems too many. i sometimes also lower my cardcount to 40. hope this helps :)
Nice build mate! I saw similar :time \ :aether builds as well, what uses SOG. Where are u getting the :life mana to play the SOG out? Probably its a dumb question, but i'am curious :) And thanks for the help in this matter mates.....
Post by: ColorlessGreen on June 28, 2013, 04:03:59 pm
Post by: Yoker420 on June 28, 2013, 04:55:47 pm
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Post by: freeyourmind on June 28, 2013, 05:15:06 pm