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Improved Mutation Deck (semi-upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44716.msg1016042#msg1016042
« on: November 16, 2012, 02:50:20 pm »
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This is a small variation on a dual deck I use (I have 4 Fallen Druids, no Improved Mutation, only 3 Schrödinger's Cats and 6 Photons) which is a great AI3 grinder (I actually upgraded both the Discord and the Dissipation Shield/Field thanks to this deck), it's still unproved in PVP.

The Dissipation Field and Discord also work if they are not upped, but you need a lot of entropy quanta to effectively use the Dissipation Shield. You can also use Fallen Elves instead of Fallen Druids, but you have a chance of a creature dying.

The Life mark could be substituted with an Entropy mark and 5 or so Life Pendulums. Anyway you have to have a way to generate Life quanta in order to use the Fallen Druids' Improve ability. The Quantum pillars are also necessary as the mutants can use any type of quanta.

The strategy is pretty simple, get cats out and improve, improve, improve. Discord's Scramble ability is also very useful against mono decks and when you get to a high level of quanta Dissipation Shield makes you untouchable (at least for a period of time).

However this deck has a very obvious weakness to Lobotomize as its strategy is largely based on abilities. It's also weak to an early Otyugh, as he would eat a cat and then be able to eat the Fallen Druids as soon as you play them.

Strengths:
1) Improve gives you access to every creature and ability in the game in random association.
2) Discord's Scramble ability is effectively a nightmare for mono decks.
3) Mutants usually have high strength, a very useful ability or both, as soon as you have 3 or 4 of them the match will be short.

Weaknesses:
1) Lobotomize, as it will limit your ability to improve to 2 (Improved Mutation) and you will be generating most likely useless Life quanta.
2) Otyugh, as soon as he Devours a Schrödinger's Cat he'll be able to do the same to the Fallen Druids.

What do you think of it? Should I change some cards? (if yes which ones? and what should I add?)

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Re: Improved Mutation Deck (semi-upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44716.msg1016085#msg1016085
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 08:13:27 pm »
why cats?'-'
and why upped shield?im sure unnuped one will do better, specially if u change cats for photon

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Re: Improved Mutation Deck (semi-upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44716.msg1016102#msg1016102
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2012, 09:37:29 pm »
yeah i feel cats are not the most effective mutation fodder photon or sparks are better as they are free. six creatures isn't enough fodder for druids you will have excess life as if you get six good mutants you won't remutate them. You might as well use improved mutation unless you use more fodder i have two different mutant decks one with druids one without these are mine.
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This one still needs the mutations and pandas upgrading. I need to thank annamall and dragoon for pointing this deck out to me.

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this one uses cats to produce theoretically an unlimited supply of fodder for druids the sose can be dropped and maype some of the pends could be dropped as well. Out of these two i prefer the druidless one as it means you will always be able to mutate a photon if you have enough quanta, whereas the one with druids is vulnerable to the druids being cced. Fell free to make adjustments based on what you own.


« Last Edit: November 16, 2012, 09:39:40 pm by treebeard xiii »
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Re: Improved Mutation Deck (semi-upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44716.msg1016104#msg1016104
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2012, 10:01:41 pm »
why cats?'-'
and why upped shield?im sure unnuped one will do better, specially if u change cats for photon

Because if I make it photons (which I use) it would make it a duo deck.

Dissipation Shield vs Dissipation Field could be a long discussion, I included the upped because it uses all types of quanta while the non upped only uses Entropy and that could be on short supply with this deck, although it's also true that the upped goes 1-3 while the non upped goes 1-1, so really either one could be used.

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Re: Improved Mutation Deck (semi-upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44716.msg1016107#msg1016107
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2012, 10:13:09 pm »
yeah i feel cats are not the most effective mutation fodder photon or sparks are better as they are free. six creatures isn't enough fodder for druids you will have excess life as if you get six good mutants you won't remutate them.

If I get six good mutants the game's over in a couple of turns, so not really a big problem. From time to time I will also mutate one of the Druids if I'm happy with the mutants I've got but need more attacking power (only if I have at least one other Druid out in case the mutation isn't that useful).

I actually use photons, but it would make this a duo deck. Sparks I'm not so sure, they are good fodder, but if you draw them early and don't have the quanta they are a waste.

I like the Cat + Boneyard thing. I'll try it sometime.

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Re: Improved Mutation Deck (semi-upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44716.msg1016120#msg1016120
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 10:47:27 pm »
I like the Cat + Boneyard thing. I'll try it sometime.

I struggle with this so you might ned to balance the quanta out a bit thats always been difficult for me.
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Re: Improved Mutation Deck (semi-upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44716.msg1044011#msg1044011
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 01:59:09 am »
Looks like its a bit low on quantum for the shield. Maybe consider making the QP into QT? Just a thought.  :)

 

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