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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg16736#msg16736
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2010, 06:35:02 pm »
Many people say Destiny is hideously easy, other say he's a challenge (like icy.. i think...)

Can you guys give me a feedback on him? I want to know how my other creation is doing...
Start a thread about it. This thread is about Elidnis. ;)

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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg16745#msg16745
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2010, 06:51:48 pm »
I think some mod should sticky a thread about Elidnis, Divine Glory, Destiny, Ferox and Obliterator. This way everyone will know how to deal with these new gods and there will be no need to flood this section with 10 topics about each of the newcomers  :D

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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg16857#msg16857
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2010, 11:33:21 pm »
is way more difficult than Divine Glory, IMO.

Plenty of creature control, and those immortal forest spirits. Basically, if you can't keep Bone Wall up (and it will fall eventually), you're screwed.
fought it thrice, beat it twice

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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg18451#msg18451
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2010, 12:54:39 am »
Elidnis has no permanent control at all, and after a few games against it I'm getting the feeling it doesn't draw aether towers as much as it should be; quite a few times Elidnis never gets an aether tower out until his ulitharids are all dead anyway (or you've quinted the important creatures), and half the time all his forest spirits are dead before he can use quintessence. The real problem Elidnis has though, is the ramp-up time. His big damage dealing comes from forest spirits. You have PLENTY of time to draw your big strategy, especially since you safely wait until the last moment to start using phase shields and sundials. Eternity can buy even more time by resetting the growth of spirits. Elidnis also doesn't have a glut of monsters; bonewalls tend to last fairly long against this bot.

Overall this god simply isn't fast enough and isn't brutal enough; his strategy has too many places it can fail, and even at full steam he has NOTHING to stop shields.

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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg18476#msg18476
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2010, 03:49:42 am »
i just won shard of divinity when playing against him... wooho!! (it was also an elemental mastery)

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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg18663#msg18663
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2010, 04:07:57 am »
After a few more matches, I have to admit that Elidnis is much easier than I thought. :P
I think the only time he has actually been able to get his Immortal Forest Spirit "combo" out was the first time I played him.
Still, his creature control and immortals manage to provide pressure throughout the match. With a better balance of towers, he would definitely be in the more deadly "tier" of Gods. (again imo)

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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg18756#msg18756
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2010, 07:05:38 pm »
I also find elednis to be easier than average.  Getting an Otyugh with transcendance is key, and stealing or destroying aether towers is very helpful.


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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg18796#msg18796
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2010, 10:55:18 pm »
The whole Elidnis is easy, Elidnis is hard debate is a bit pointless, in my opinion. It is all down to your starting hand and the FG's starting hand. I played Elidnis once and he/she/it managed to get out 2 Immortal Spectres and 3 Ulitharids. I had to bide my time relying on lucky sundial draws while getting my quanta up for Phase Shield. I ultimately lost owing to the fact that my Otyughs came really low down in the deck, next to my Fire Storms and a Electrum Hourglass. The main threat is that he will congeal anything you put out for a few turns, and then your main worry is that he will lobotomize what he has frozen. An Elite Otyugh + Quintessence can solve this problem easily, as can a Ulitharid + Quint or a Druid + Quint. After this it is just a case of waiting to get your bone yard/bone wall and fire storms ready while your Otyugh eats anything new he puts on the table.

I find it helps to steal his Aether Tower if he plays 1 or 2 in the first turn, this way you have enough Aether to play your Quintessence/Phase Shields/Lobotomize. This ultimately allows you to survive long enough to get your Bone Yard, Otyugh, Bone Wall and 2x Fire Storm combination ready. Also, if you mange to get a Mutation which can freeze anything he hasn't Quintessence'd, it is worth noting that he will Twin Universe a frozen creature if it is the highest statistically offensive card in play.

As for the debate of 'hard god' / 'easy god'. Chaos Lord stole my first 4 Quantum Towers and I was under the impression he was an 'easy god'. Firefly Queen with over 150 fire quanta and 2 Fahrenheits in play is not a pretty situation either, not to mention her Fire Lances (which when you are shielded, she will throw at you. It is a card game, and therefore it has an 'element' of luck (excuse the pun). Every god would be more or less easy if I could choose my starting hand, but then to do so, I would have to have less cards in my deck ultimately making the deck weaker and less versatile.


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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg18819#msg18819
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2010, 02:26:42 am »
Except that if you have a crap hand you can still get as far as halfway through your deck before Elidnis will kill you; not to mention it's much harder to recover from other false gods once they are in full swing. Most decks have a far greater chance of beating elidnis than most other gods.

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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg20378#msg20378
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2010, 02:23:51 am »
He is one god I have yet to beat. I haven't meet him too many times, and I lost every fight against him. I don't really see any way to prevent him from lobotomizing all my creatures.

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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg20801#msg20801
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2010, 01:06:49 am »
Kill his Ulitharids. 


Also, I just learned that Elidnis is a god from Runescape.  Go, Zanz!  :D
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Re: Elidnis https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg22173#msg22173
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2010, 02:48:15 pm »
Kill his Ulitharids. 


Also, I just learned that Elidnis is a god from Runescape.  Go, Zanz!  :D
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