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Title: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Elbirn on August 16, 2013, 02:18:16 am
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0-1 and 12-13 GMT :aether Electronic
1-2 and 13-14 GMT :air Alternative
2-3 and 14-15 GMT :darkness (TBD)
3-4 and 15-16 GMT :death Metal (sorry metal purists -- you only get one station)
4-5 and 16-17 GMT :earth Rock
5-6 and 17-18 GMT :entropy Dubstep
6-7 and 18-19 GMT :fire Punk
7-8 and 19-20 GMT :gravity Rap/Hip-Hop
8-9 and 20-21 GMT :life Reggae
9-10 and 21-22 GMT :light Pop
10-11 and 22-23 GMT :time Oldies
11-12 and 23-24 :water Trance/House

Soo... what does alternative entail? If alternative means "Any kind of rock-ish music that isnt metal/hard rock", and not "90's radio rock", I'll be happy. I'd like to see some progressive/post rock there.

As for Darkness...Good luck with not giving up and making that a metal station. Seriously.
Title: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 16, 2013, 03:32:13 am
Alternative will probably be Indie Rock, Prog. Rock, New Wave, Grunge, and Alt. Rock.
Metal will be metal.
Rock will be very diverse and also include harder rock.
Although I may give in and make Darkness another Metal station.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Naesala on August 16, 2013, 05:06:39 am
Please make Gravity something other than Rap/Hip-hop. 1)It doesnt have a thematic fit 2)I really don't like either and gravity is my favorite element. Could we put it on dark or somewhere else and try to find something better?
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 16, 2013, 05:34:36 am
Please make Gravity something other than Rap/Hip-hop. 1)It doesnt have a thematic fit 2)I really don't like either and gravity is my favorite element. Could we put it on dark or somewhere else and try to find something better?
1) More thematically fitting to Gravity than it is Darkness. 2) Darkness is my favorite Element.
Also, in this thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2760.108.html), Hip-Hop as Gravity was a fair majority of people.
Sorry, Nae. It's not like I'm dissing your favorite element, but what genre of music we play for 2 (total) hours a day shouldn't affect you that much.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Tiko on August 16, 2013, 03:59:26 pm
May I ask what's the benefit in trying to squeeze in the elements into certain musical styles? Elements are the building blocks of Nature themselves, I find it hard to fit such force into such simple-sided representation, not to mention how narrow-minded some music genres can be when it comes to self-expression.

Also, some people have a very 'selective attitude' towards music, and let's say if one only appreciates Metal in general and can't stand any other form of sound, but the show is only aired while on that part of the world work-hours are still going; he simply won't listen to the Radio, ever. May be a bit harsh example, but there are peopleout there who think like this.

I'm not sure if this is the right way.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Keolino on August 16, 2013, 04:48:11 pm
May I ask what's the benefit in trying to squeeze in the elements into certain musical styles? Elements are the building blocks of Nature themselves, I find it hard to fit such force into such simple-sided representation, not to mention how narrow-minded some music genres can be when it comes to self-expression.

Also, some people have a very 'selective attitude' towards music, and let's say if one only appreciates Metal in general and can't stand any other form of sound, but the show is only aired while on that part of the world work-hours are still going; he simply won't listen to the Radio, ever. May be a bit harsh example, but there are peopleout there who think like this.

I'm not sure if this is the right way.

Everything is made so that as many people as possible (well, it can´t be everybody) can enjoy listening to the radio. If you have a better solution to achive that, I would like to hear how you would do it. Because I, for my part, doesn´t know a better way than this one thats playing certain music genres at certain hours.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Elbirn on August 16, 2013, 05:24:51 pm
Rather than genres, you could play songs that represent whatever element is "on the air". I suppose that this could lead to mishmashes and oddness; going from say death metal to soft indie to electro to polka to kpop to gods knows what else, it could get weird.

There's a reason why actual radio stations stick to a general set of genres/sounds.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: ddevans96 on August 16, 2013, 09:48:31 pm
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5-6 and 17-18 GMT :entropy Dubstep

Put these three dubstep songs on the same station, and reasonably justify it.

A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU0nRCSGiP8) || B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkayDe5JDjk) || C (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVZJb4zbms0)

Apples, oranges, and peaches among the three songs I linked, but because of how dubstep is defined, they are all dubstep. More important than genre here are concepts of volume, tempo, and structure. These can divide dubstep into further subgenres, which actually can be allocated to elements, but dubstep alone cannot.

I could make this argument about house, trance, and many other primary genres of electronic as well, I just don't feel like it. To be honest, you can probablydo the same about metal, rock, and pop, and likely several other genres. I just don't know as much about those :3
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 16, 2013, 10:32:04 pm
I would love if people could give ideas, but what's the worst is when people say "you're doing it wrong" but don't have a better solution or anything to contribute.

May I ask what's the benefit in trying to squeeze in the elements into certain musical styles? Elements are the building blocks of Nature themselves, I find it hard to fit such force into such simple-sided representation, not to mention how narrow-minded some music genres can be when it comes to self-expression.

Also, some people have a very 'selective attitude' towards music, and let's say if one only appreciates Metal in general and can't stand any other form of sound, but the show is only aired while on that part of the world work-hours are still going; he simply won't listen to the Radio, ever. May be a bit harsh example, but there are peopleout there who think like this.

I'm not sure if this is the right way.
Well, the reason I did two one hour segments twice a day (instead of the alternative 2 straight hours of that genre per day) was to give people the best chance they can to listen to their favorite genre.
If their favorite station plays at 2AM their time, it will also play at 2PM, where they are more available, so I'm doing the best I can there.

Rather than genres, you could play songs that represent whatever element is "on the air". I suppose that this could lead to mishmashes and oddness; going from say death metal to soft indie to electro to polka to kpop to gods knows what else, it could get weird.

There's a reason why actual radio stations stick to a general set of genres/sounds.
What do you mean by "whatever element is 'on the air'"? Sorry if I'm missing something, but I don't get it.
Well, as much as I'd like to "stick to one genre," this is the only way we can please everyone. If you have a better idea I'd love to hear it.

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5-6 and 17-18 GMT :entropy Dubstep

Put these three dubstep songs on the same station, and reasonably justify it.

A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU0nRCSGiP8) || B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkayDe5JDjk) || C (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVZJb4zbms0)
It's a dubstep radio station. Boom. Next problem.

Apples, oranges, and peaches among the three songs I linked, but because of how dubstep is defined, they are all dubstep. More important than genre here are concepts of volume, tempo, and structure. These can divide dubstep into further subgenres, which actually can be allocated to elements, but dubstep alone cannot.

you can probably do the same about metal, rock, and pop, and likely several other genres.
Metal:
* Thrash Metal
* Dark Metal
* Stoner Metal
* Speed Metal
* Progressive Metal
* Power Metal
* Party Metal
* Math Metal
* Nu Metal
* Hair Metal
(and there are more)

Rock:
* Indie Rock
* Punk
* Britpop
* Blues Rock
You know what, there are too many to list. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rock_genres)
Technically speaking, Metal is just a subgenre of Rock.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: artimies7 on August 16, 2013, 11:02:07 pm
What would pure instrumental be? I would think Air if it favors wind instruments, but Gravity if it has lots of low drums. (As in the bigger the drum, the lower the sound, the more it connects with Gravy.)

Brass would sound very Time-ey, IMHO. Especially Big Band music a la Glenn Miller.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 16, 2013, 11:20:35 pm
What would pure instrumental be? I would think Air if it favors wind instruments, but Gravity if it has lots of low drums. (As in the bigger the drum, the lower the sound, the more it connects with Gravy.)

Brass would sound very Time-ey, IMHO. Especially Big Band music a la Glenn Miller.
Seeing as "pure instrumental" isn't defined as a genre or subgenre of any kind of music, "pure instrumental" could refer to anything from pop to rock to metal to bluegrass and everything in between.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Elbirn on August 16, 2013, 11:37:07 pm
Too lazy to pick my quote out of your quote of quotes, but yeah. By "Whatever element is on the air", I meant that instead of picking a genre to represent, say, earth, we pick SONGS that represent earth. These songs don't have to be the same genre or musical style. The songs themselves just have to in some way evoke the idea of :earth. Was all I meant. I don't think I threw out any harsh or negative criticism either, but you seem to think I was attacking or telling you you're doing it wrong, and if so I apologize.

Also, happy to see someone with an intricate knowledge of rawk working closely on the radio project ;)
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: artimies7 on August 17, 2013, 12:40:28 am
What would pure instrumental be? I would think Air if it favors wind instruments, but Gravity if it has lots of low drums. (As in the bigger the drum, the lower the sound, the more it connects with Gravy.)

Brass would sound very Time-ey, IMHO. Especially Big Band music a la Glenn Miller.
Seeing as "pure instrumental" isn't defined as a genre or subgenre of any kind of music, "pure instrumental" could refer to anything from pop to rock to metal to bluegrass and everything in between.

I meant this sort of thing (http://youtu.be/iO7ySn-Swwc), with lots of thematic ties and etc. You know, not this genre of songs in specific, but softish and nice. You know?
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 17, 2013, 01:05:20 am
What would pure instrumental be? I would think Air if it favors wind instruments, but Gravity if it has lots of low drums. (As in the bigger the drum, the lower the sound, the more it connects with Gravy.)

Brass would sound very Time-ey, IMHO. Especially Big Band music a la Glenn Miller.
Seeing as "pure instrumental" isn't defined as a genre or subgenre of any kind of music, "pure instrumental" could refer to anything from pop to rock to metal to bluegrass and everything in between.

I meant this sort of thing (http://youtu.be/iO7ySn-Swwc), with lots of thematic ties and etc. You know, not this genre of songs in specific, but softish and nice. You know?

I kind of understand what you're saying (that song is amazing, btw) and pure instrumental stuff like this would probably best fit into Darkness x) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,50777.0.html)
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: artimies7 on August 17, 2013, 01:18:42 am
soft piano and what the junk is that

I think that there's enough variety in the instrumental stuff that you can stick a bit of lyricless into most/all of the elements. Darkness can be suspense or drama music. Big emotional swoons, amirite?
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Naesala on August 17, 2013, 04:51:34 am
I agree with what else has been said, if you do genres and they dont fit thematically (and I have no idea how you think rap is more appropriate for gravity that dark, listen to the lyrics of a lot of rap...) You're going to leave many people displeased. So, either find a better thematical fit per genre, or better just choose songs that fit the element. I remember seeing an entire thread of songs that were card/elements names, that would be a great start. Edit: found it http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,47103.0.html

No offense to you, but if it remains as is, I will never listen to Elements radio.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 18, 2013, 12:21:34 am
I agree with what else has been said, if you do genres and they dont fit thematically (and I have no idea how you think rap is more appropriate for gravity that dark, listen to the lyrics of a lot of rap...) You're going to leave many people displeased. So, either find a better thematical fit per genre, or better just choose songs that fit the element. I remember seeing an entire thread of songs that were card/elements names, that would be a great start. Edit: found it http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,47103.0.html

No offense to you, but if it remains as is, I will never listen to Elements radio.

Songs that have the name of the Element in them =/= thematic fit
Gravity, as a sound, has been characterized (by the Elements Community; not just me) as a heavy/solid bassline (i.e. hip-hop/rap).
I'm sorry, but I'm going by the choices of Elements Community. I'm honestly trying my best to make everyone happy.
According to this thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2760.108.html), the three most requested genres for :gravity were Dubstep, Metal, and Hip-Hop/Rap.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Naesala on August 18, 2013, 01:11:03 am
We obviously have very different definitions as to what fits thematically.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 18, 2013, 01:15:59 am
We obviously have very different definitions as to what fits thematically.
It wasn't my definition. Don't blame me for using what the people said.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Elbirn on August 18, 2013, 02:31:41 am
Nothing really to comment on the gravity debate, but let me just offer my 100% support of making darkness a timeslot for classy/dark/instrumental/whatever, because that sounds quite fitting and boss as hell.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: ddevans96 on August 18, 2013, 03:17:54 am
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5-6 and 17-18 GMT :entropy Dubstep

Put these three dubstep songs on the same station, and reasonably justify it.

A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU0nRCSGiP8) || B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkayDe5JDjk) || C (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVZJb4zbms0)
It's a dubstep radio station. Boom. Next problem.

Okay then, so I'll enjoy listening Neil Diamond and Metallica on the same station, right? Because that's the exact kind of thing you're doing.

I'll restate: electronic music (your current aether, entropy, and water) needs to be sorted by volume, tempo, and structure, with volume as the most important, just like all of of your current non-electronic stations seem to be. You don't want to be listening to the radio and go from rawr? to RAWR!, or vice versa.

Especially consider a song like Eyes on You (my song A), which I'd argue for your current darkness over any of those three.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 18, 2013, 03:30:17 am
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5-6 and 17-18 GMT :entropy Dubstep

Put these three dubstep songs on the same station, and reasonably justify it.

A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU0nRCSGiP8) || B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkayDe5JDjk) || C (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVZJb4zbms0)
It's a dubstep radio station. Boom. Next problem.

Okay then, so I'll enjoy listening Neil Diamond and Metallica on the same station, right? Because that's the exact kind of thing you're doing.

I'll restate: electronic music (your current aether, entropy, and water) needs to be sorted by volume, tempo, and structure, with volume as the most important, just like all of of your current non-electronic stations seem to be. You don't want to be listening to the radio and go from rawr? to RAWR!, or vice versa.

Especially consider a song like Eyes on You (my song A), which I'd argue for your current darkness over any of those three.

Okay, I'm understanding what you're saying and I getcha. What do you suggest we change the three to? I'd say that :darkness should be the lowest volume of the three, with :water as the mid-ground and :entropy being the loudest of the three. How do you think we should rename those appropriately?
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Elbirn on August 18, 2013, 10:07:58 pm
Mayhaps I'm just an ignorant pleb, but I don't see the difference between the three songs that Ddev's posted as being so great. However I'm considering that it's probably just something I don't understand because electronic music, though a vague interest of mine, is not exactly my forte. I'd probably throw a fit if someone made a stoner metal station and put, say, Dragonforce on it, and I think that's what's going on here. :P Having said that, I don't think we need 3 stations of dubstep.

If we're going to start nit picking over genres being clumped together, I think we need to start with the time station. What exactly do you call "Oldies"? Anything older than 1960?
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 18, 2013, 11:49:06 pm
Mayhaps I'm just an ignorant pleb, but I don't see the difference between the three songs that Ddev's posted as being so great. However I'm considering that it's probably just something I don't understand because electronic music, though a vague interest of mine, is not exactly my forte. I'd probably throw a fit if someone made a stoner metal station and put, say, Dragonforce on it, and I think that's what's going on here. :P Having said that, I don't think we need 3 stations of dubstep.

If we're going to start nit picking over genres being clumped together, I think we need to start with the time station. What exactly do you call "Oldies"? Anything older than 1960?

Oldies would be classified as anything from around 1955 to 1972. Anything older than that would be classified as "classic hits," which could still be considered "old," but a different era of "old" and therefore will be placed in their respective genres (some restrictions will apply; none of these genres are completely exclusive).
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Elbirn on August 19, 2013, 12:40:14 am
"You Belong to Me" By Jo Stafford (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=berL-80EPmg)
"Black Sabbath" by Black Sabbath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t24PsZxohY)

Okay.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 19, 2013, 02:20:15 am
(some restrictions will apply; none of these genres are completely exclusive).

Anything Black Sabbath would go into Rock; not Oldies.
Sometimes I feel like people just try and hassle just for the sake of hassling. Common sense.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Elbirn on August 19, 2013, 04:59:50 am
The point that I was trying to make was that "1950-1972" is not a genre, it is a time frame containing a vast array of genres, so it's kind of silly.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 19, 2013, 05:04:28 am
The point that I was trying to make was that "1950-1972" is not a genre, it is a time frame containing a vast array of genres, so it's kind of silly.
Well you can tell that to every Oldies radio station in the world.
I'm not here to argue about what your definition of genre is or not. I'm just trying my best to appease everyone. If you don't like Oldies, just don't listen to it, please don't argue with me about it. I'm tired of arguing over silly things.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Elbirn on August 19, 2013, 05:45:49 pm
I'm not arguing, I'm trying to have a discussion in an attempt to refine the oldies station. But if you'd rather put your hands over your ears and shut out the input of others because "They're being mean to me by not agreeing with me :(", then I'm done trying to help.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 19, 2013, 10:27:00 pm
That's not it at all. Also, you never gave input, you just posted two links and a sarcastic remark. When it comes to the Oldies station, it will be mostly common sense things. Although Black Sabbath made some stuff prior to 1970, they'll be in the Rock station because no one classifies them as "oldies." The Beatles, for example, will probably stay on the Oldies station because the majority of their stuff was pre-1970 (even though they made songs in the 70s).
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Legit on August 20, 2013, 04:24:47 am
I, for one, support the proposed schedule. It's impossible to have a setup that pleases everyone, and I think the current one covers a huge variety of music. Sure the radio might not support your favorite sub-genre or you don't want your favorite underground dubstep song to be played after Skrillex, but this schedule will please the majority and that's what it's supposed to do.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 21, 2013, 12:23:05 am
I, for one, support the proposed schedule. It's impossible to have a setup that pleases everyone, and I think the current one covers a huge variety of music. Sure the radio might not support your favorite sub-genre or you don't want your favorite underground dubstep song to be played after Skrillex, but this schedule will please the majority and that's what it's supposed to do.
Thank you for your support, Legit ^.^ I'm trying as hard as I can to please as many people as I can.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: artimies7 on August 21, 2013, 12:26:25 am
BEEFY

Wondering where cultural music would go. Or did I miss the listing on that one? Nope, it's not directly listed. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 21, 2013, 01:42:14 am
BEEFY

Wondering where cultural music would go. Or did I miss the listing on that one? Nope, it's not directly listed. Any thoughts?

Well, I guess that would kind of depend. I know we have a lot of different cultures represented on the forums, but are there enough people that listen to Foreign Music that it should be given its own timeslot? There hasn't been any requests for it prior to this (as far as I know). I'm totally willing to work it in if enough people want it, but making the playlists will be very hard for me as I'm from America and don't know what music is popular in other countries and whatnot.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: ddevans96 on August 21, 2013, 01:51:50 am
Foreign music is a really broad term now.

A lot of viral artists from other countries, like PSY, Girls Generation (heh), O-Zone, Bjork, basically everything submitted to Eurovision, and probably other examples I'm too lazy to think of, can be grouped really nicely into pop. Not that I imagine many people hearing Gangnam Style or Numa Numa is thinking 'ooh, this song perfectly represents light', but it's an option.

I'm sure you can also find a fair amount of rock and metal, just with lyrics in other languages, that would fit well into the radio. Especially given a region like the Nordics, which is really well known for it's metal scene.

Also, Japanese Skrillex. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq3nBZnyDto) Just saying :3
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: artimies7 on August 21, 2013, 01:59:50 am
I was thinking really traditional music. As in bagpipes. Native American drum lines. Yodeling, and I'm only half kidding on that count.
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: ddevans96 on August 21, 2013, 02:05:11 am
Anything ambient and ominous should go under darkness, imo. Traditional, contemporary, and electronic. Bagpipes aren't really that dark, though, so I'm not sure.

Music with really prominent, non-standard drums, say Native American, African, or Caribbean beats, fits well with life, but I don't know how well those would mix with reggae. Probably quite well, giving it's origins, so it's a possibility.

Yodeling...just put it in every half hour to keep people on their toes :P
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 21, 2013, 02:20:28 am
Yodeling...just put it in every half hour to keep people on their toes :P
It'll be the intro before I talk. Every time. Muahahah (kidding).

Anywho, yeah, you're right. "Foreign" to most people is different than "foreign" to you or me, because 'murica. Therefore, I'll just put the songs into their respective genres and add non-Englsh songs by request.

As for bagpipes, yodeling, etc. If there's a song that has those and doesn't sound awful, then I'll add it into its respective genre. Most likely Darkness, but it depends on how the instrument is used (like all instruments). A song that comes to mind is "Bagpipes from Baghdad" by Eminem. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIug2pM3SY) It's got bagpipes, but it's definitely hip-hop/rap.

Also, dd:
-snip-

Okay, I'm understanding what you're saying and I getcha. What do you suggest we change the three to? I'd say that :darkness should be the lowest volume of the three, with :water as the mid-ground and :entropy being the loudest of the three. How do you think we should rename those appropriately?
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: ddevans96 on August 21, 2013, 02:48:25 am
Oh right, that.

Entropy should generally be the loudest, agreed. But it should more importantly be the more varied sounds - twisted synths and basslines, for example. Skrillex is generally perfect for this, but there's others. My song C (Swagga? Or did I put Bounce? Too lazy to check - either way, Excision) is another song by fairly mainstream artists who generally do use these kind of progressively crazier sounds. It just so happens that most of these are high volume.

I should note a lot of these songs aren't just dubstep, but variants of it such as drumstep and glitch hop, as well as electro house, some drum and bass, and even some trap is a good candidate for Entropy.

Water is basically the polar opposite - highly structured, generally calm and flowing. A lot of dubstep that is softer and not loaded with crazy sounds should fit here - commonly this is known as chillstep. My song B is a good example of chill dubstep that fits in Water.

Most trance and house should indeed fall here, although there's heavy variants of both that would go better with Entropy. A fair amount of drum and bass and electro is light, and works best here as well.

Aether is kind of the wild card - it should essentially be a bridge between Entropy and Water, but there's not too much room. Psytrance is indeed good here, along with anything that sounds ethereal and otherworldly, without bordering on the heavy variation of Entropy. Intelligent dance, some electro, and maybe funkier variants of electronic should fit well here.

I'll add more examples in due course if you want them, I'm just kind of drained tonight and don't feel like looking up too much stuff. Sorry :/
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 21, 2013, 04:40:13 am
Alright. That makes sense. What I'm more looking for is what you think we should rename those on this thread. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,50777.0.html)
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: Legit on August 21, 2013, 08:57:37 am
In my opinion, based on the current genres that I have knowledge of

:air should be alternative/indie/rock music popular in the 2000's to present. Ex. Foo Fighters, The White Stripes, Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Silversun Pickups, etc. Lots of choices to choose from here, this station should be no problem.

:death if this is the only metal station this would be super easy. Just put on whatever.

:earth classic rock all the way up to grunge. Ex. Led Zeppelin, Journey, Guns N Roses, Soundgarden, Nirvana

:gravity if punk is a single station you would have to play older punk and newer pop-punk together. Ex. The Clash, Bad Religion, Green Day, Blink-182

:time I assume you mean bands like the Beatles and Rolling Stones, throw in some Beach Boys and Monkees etc. Don't know much about artists of the 50's.

PLEASE critique my proposed setup, this is just my opinion and I would like this to actually go somewhere, so if we have multiple people agreeing or disagreeing on something we can establish what will work for the final product and what needs to be changed before launch.



EDIT: Alternatively, if you are considering making Darkness a separate metal station, you could separate the two metal stations something like this:

:darkness Progressive Metal, Power Metal, Post Metal, Symphonic Metal, Thrash Metal/NWOBHM

:death Death Metal, Black Metal, Metalcore, Nu-Metal, Modern Metal
Title: Re: Radio Development Discussion
Post by: BeefSupreme on August 22, 2013, 04:42:34 am
I wish I knew enough about metal to separate them like that. Lots of these genres will be lots of research and (some) guesswork on my part. Personally, I think one metal station is enough, but if it gains tons of popularity while the Darkness timeslot gains little, we might look into the option of expanding.
As to your proposed genre band examples: that is pretty much exactly what I was thinking. Although I'm not sure why you put :gravity instead of :fire for Punk, but I think that was just a mistype.
Yep, so you've pretty much got it ^.^

We could REALLY use some help in the form of contributing playlists. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,50856.0.html)
12 playlists a day (1 per genre) * 7 days a week = 84 playlists a week. That's a lot of work, so any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Not to mention, I only have a certain amount of music and I'll have to be a pirate for a lot of this, so I'm using up a good amount of computer space
blarg: