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Title: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Higurashi on December 27, 2013, 10:06:44 am
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This is where you should tell us what you think of the Council and Council system

The Council is a system that alleviates the workload for the Admin and simultaneously allows the rest of the community to influence forum decisions. If you have feedback on how the Council is doing, how it's selected and what principles it follows, post it here.

For instance, would you like more transparency on Council decisions or discussion? Would you mind if decisions took longer as a result of investing time in more transparency?

If you suspect somebody is slacking off like that one bald guy on the steps, don't post it here. Let us deal with it.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: dragtom on December 27, 2013, 02:33:44 pm
transparancy is almost always a good thing,
yet it may delay things to the point where nothing happens.

often a bad decision is better than no decision, as that causes the bad things from all options to happen.

more people thinking about something does mean there are more arguments for all options.

There is somewhere an optimal point of transparancy. I think the council can decide pretty good where that lies.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: timetock on December 27, 2013, 02:36:43 pm
I trust the council to make the right decisions. I'll put my faith in the council, as they ARE carefully selected. I assume they ARE the qualified people they promised to be. So I'll trust in the council to decide what is best for us. I'll be fine in sacrificing a bit of transparency for quicker decisions. So long as the discussion is revealed to us upon request, of course.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: mrpaper on December 27, 2013, 03:47:03 pm
There should be reserve council members that step in whenever a staff member goes offline for a month or more unless he said he will have to. That would prevent what came here which is half of em leaving slowly and the others with a burden they don't want/can't take.  Also get new council members right away if there are no reserve members left.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: andretimpa on December 27, 2013, 04:10:19 pm
I sincerely have no idea of what the council does (besides taking the applications for staff positions). So I think some transparency is lacking, at least let us know what is being discussed.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: TribalTrouble on December 27, 2013, 04:49:33 pm
I sincerely have no idea of what the council does (besides taking the applications for staff positions). So I think some transparency is lacking, at least let us know what is being discussed.
Agreed.

Maybe have something like a newsletter position where someone is appointed to report on what happens in the council every month?

For example something like:

A topic that is stickied either in Announcements or the Council section.

This topic is only allowed to be posted in for updates on the Council's progress.
A separate topic for discussion should be stickied directly below.

The updates should be in a table format (I don't know how to do the forum table code so bare with me)
Each separate project should get its own row and should have a description of where it's at and what improvements have been(or are being) made to them. Each month a different table should be posted as a reply to the last post's table so that the community can compare and see what's changing in the community and just how the council's efforts(or lack thereof) are effecting the community.

Obviously this is my first idea and has room for improvement. For example maybe a table isn't right for this, maybe a different format is better!

edit: There could possibly be a row for Council Position changes as well as a row for Council Member of the Month.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Higurashi on December 27, 2013, 04:52:21 pm
We do have newsletters and newsletter writers. There's a staff position for it, and Council has stepped up to create the newsletters when the newsletter writers haven't been able to.

Regarding what the Council has done lately, there's not a problem of transparency: the problem is that they have almost only done staff hirings. This will be remedied once I get a new Council.

Nonetheless, I take it from this that the public wants regular updates on what the Council is working on.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: TribalTrouble on December 27, 2013, 04:59:48 pm
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We do have newsletters and newsletter writers. There's a staff position for it, and Council has stepped up to create the newsletters when the newsletter writers haven't been able to.

I mean something where it is made specifically for showing the changes made by the council, showing exactly what the council is working on. Sort of a Newsletter specific to the Council and made such that the community understands that the Council is making progress on something rather than just hearing that 'Well X project finally finished, and we are proud to announce that it is starting up'. For Guilds we were just given hype and then a forum event that really just didn't work right. I don't know if this could've stopped Guilds from failing or if it would've just made Guilds fail faster than before, but the idea is to give an incentive for the Council to get things done as well as providing the community with the ability to see what the council is up to. We are improving the level of Council Awareness.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Blacksmith on December 27, 2013, 06:39:56 pm
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We do have newsletters and newsletter writers. There's a staff position for it, and Council has stepped up to create the newsletters when the newsletter writers haven't been able to.

I mean something where it is made specifically for showing the changes made by the council, showing exactly what the council is working on. Sort of a Newsletter specific to the Council and made such that the community understands that the Council is making progress on something rather than just hearing that 'Well X project finally finished, and we are proud to announce that it is starting up'. For Guilds we were just given hype and then a forum event that really just didn't work right. I don't know if this could've stopped Guilds from failing or if it would've just made Guilds fail faster than before, but the idea is to give an incentive for the Council to get things done as well as providing the community with the ability to see what the council is up to. We are improving the level of Council Awareness.

I agree a tablet with all the decision the council make should be submitted somewhere. In the same way like the patches are.  So like:

Council 1
XXX changed 12/2 2010
xxxx was added 17/2 2010
Council 2
... etc etc

And preferingly make everyone in the council able to update this list to make council more flexible.

I'd like to add that the new council will work a bit differently which is explained in the application for the new council.

Further on I'd like the council to have it's own thread for suggestion and feedback instead of as it is now with the bug section. I think this could make the community more involved with it and create a more direct contact for council to look at the suggestion tablet.
Spoiler for how the current suggestion thread looks like.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-bugs-suggestions-and-feedback/ (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-bugs-suggestions-and-feedback/)
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: MyNameIsJoey on December 27, 2013, 08:30:53 pm
First step to improvement is to make this very thread. Thank you, higs.

Now, for being transparent, from what i gather the problem is not that we dont know what council does, its that council doesnt do anything.

In my opinion, you should have a rule of X months or 2/3. Let me explain, The council will be disbanded after X months or when less than 2/3rd of the original council is active. Now, to give an amount of time  for council to stay, and an amount of time a person has to be away for it to be considered inactive.

*insert stupid rant about guilds failing here*

Right now I don't have much more to say, I'll reply again later on. Thanks again higs for making this thread.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Chapuz on December 27, 2013, 10:19:45 pm
@Higurashi: How will the new council members be picked and how will the council "formation" be? i.e I've read there's at least 1 council member per big part of the forum, like PvP events and TO, will that remain?
I think it's important for the community if it's explained with all the details, so the community can give feedback on the method and you can finally adjust something if you consider it is necessary.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: inthisroom on December 27, 2013, 10:44:15 pm
The council having no actual influence on the game itself, new events being suggested by the Event Organisers and the community voting for them, the same happening with pretty much every other aspect of the forum, I never really expected the council to do much more than appoint staff members for the various sections and tasks that arise on the forums and guarantee the smooth organisation of pvp and forum events.

So as long as things work, I don't really care to be kept up to date on who will be replaced by whom for whatever reason, regularly updating the staff members thread should fulfill that purpose anyway and I don't really see what else the council could achieve as I think most other aspects of the forum/chat seem to be decided and organised by the administrators and every aspect of the game depends solely on Zanzarino.

tl;dr:
I don't care who's on council, or how it's appointed/elected, as long as it works.


The bald guy on the steps isn't slacking off, he's at the heart of the council, reading something terribly important. The others are just waiting for him to be done so they'll finally get some guidance on what to do with themselves.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on December 28, 2013, 01:46:50 am
Following.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: bogtro on December 30, 2013, 09:52:22 pm
I honestly didn't know Council still existed. I thought it just died off. I gather from this thread that it doesn't currently do anything besides appoint staff, which it's done perfectly well, so I don't see anything wrong.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Higurashi on December 30, 2013, 10:46:53 pm
Yes, with me being unable to post new Council apps for a while, Council stayed the same and most of its members became less active. However, most still voted in polls regarding Staff hirings, which was nice.

Effective today, we've removed the inactives and added Chapuz and Dm1321 to the list of Council members. They join majofa, Calindu and n00b. The latter three stayed on the Council due to still being active and exceptionally resourceful.

This is the first time we've cherry-picked Council members, and the first time we make use of a newly created system: we want to have Council members that represent different areas of the forum. All of the above come from different sections of the forum: Chapuz as Brawlmaster, Dm1321 as Competition Organizer, majofa as PvP Event Organizer, Calindu as Tournament Organizer and n00b as Guildmaster. Suffice to say, many of these are also Chat Moderators and fill a few other roles as well.

To fill up the rest of the Council, I'm discussing with antiaverage about a method to involve the community again. We used to let people apply in a public thread, then run a poll on who everybody wanted on the Council. The one with the most votes became Council Head. This method was good for putting a good kind of pressure on the Council members and showing them that people care about the Council and being represented well. I would like to return to this system in some iteration, though it may not work just like it used to.

I've let you all know this in the interest of transparency, and now I would like your opinions. Fire away.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Rutarete on December 31, 2013, 01:07:14 am
That post you just made here higs is something I'm glad to hear ('read').
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: MyNameIsJoey on December 31, 2013, 01:35:22 am
Yes, with me being unable to post new Council apps for a while, Council stayed the same and most of its members became less active. However, most still voted in polls regarding Staff hirings, which was nice.

Effective today, we've removed the inactives and added Chapuz and Dm1321 to the list of Council members. They join majofa, Calindu and n00b. The latter three stayed on the Council due to still being active and exceptionally resourceful.

This is the first time we've cherry-picked Council members, and the first time we make use of a newly created system: we want to have Council members that represent different areas of the forum. All of the above come from different sections of the forum: Chapuz as Brawlmaster, Dm1321 as Competition Organizer, majofa as PvP Event Organizer, Calindu as Tournament Organizer and n00b as Guildmaster. Suffice to say, many of these are also Chat Moderators and fill a few other roles as well.

To fill up the rest of the Council, I'm discussing with antiaverage about a method to involve the community again. We used to let people apply in a public thread, then run a poll on who everybody wanted on the Council. The one with the most votes became Council Head. This method was good for putting a good kind of pressure on the Council members and showing them that people care about the Council and being represented well. I would like to return to this system in some iteration, though it may not work just like it used to.

I've let you all know this in the interest of transparency, and now I would like your opinions. Fire away.

I like the way of going back to public voting. It does become a popularity contest in some way, but it reflects what the community wants. And to be honest, I'd rather it become a popularity contest than hiring tons of newbs that disappear in the following 2 weeks and then have tons of inactive staff.

noob may be guildmaster, but guild isnt doing anything, at all.

Also, the way you are telling us about it, the council is staff that it applies itself. Am i the only one to see something wrong about this?

If you're going to make a public vote anyway, why did you decide to add 2 people like that?

I love the transparency, thanks higs.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: TribalTrouble on December 31, 2013, 01:55:55 am
I think Chapuz and Dm are good additions to the council. I'm curious what discussions will be like with Dm in them now.

As for voting, I think this could be an interesting idea to try.

Thanks for the transparency. :D
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Chapuz on December 31, 2013, 02:01:01 am
@Jijo:
Dm and I have been interested in the council for a while. Dm worked with majofa in the formation of the new council and I have been in touch with the admins and previous council members being aware of what they were and were not doing, even asking some council members to propose a couple of ideas I had, besides saying somewhere that I was interested in being part of the new council. I guess that's why the admins wanted us in the council, but it's just my guess.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Higurashi on December 31, 2013, 01:21:41 pm
As I said, selecting qualified individuals from different sections of the forum is part of a new system where the Admins add people to the Council before the public applications are accepted. This is done to ensure that we have an active Council from now on, as well as one that can cover all important parts of the forum. This has, as you know, been a big problem in the past. With the three left of the Council that didn't disappear despite everyone else doing so and two fresh Councillors who I know are motivated, inactivity should finally not be an issue anymore in the Council.

With 5 Council members and 2 Admins, we have achieved functionality. 7 more Council members will hopefully be found volunteering when we accept public applications. We may or may not also have a separate poll for who you want to be Council Head, in which the 5 pre-picked Councillors will be included of course.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: PlayerOa on December 31, 2013, 01:53:53 pm
7 more Council members will hopefully be found volunteering when we accept public applications.
What happened to the council application thread majofa put up ~2 weeks ago?
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Higurashi on December 31, 2013, 02:15:45 pm
That was premature and not agreed upon on by a majority. anti is currently developing the system we'll use. I'll do fine-tuning if necessary.

majo likes to get things done fast. It's very useful most of the time.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: MyNameIsJoey on February 08, 2014, 12:14:08 am
Could I know why some of my posts were removed? They in no way broke any forum rules as far as i know.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Hyroen on February 13, 2014, 07:26:54 pm
I'm actually glad this topic came up. Council issues have always been around, having been a part of Council a few times myself.

Usually what happens is there is unfortunate amount of disinterest in taking the initiative to start on projects aside from hiring Staff.

Hiring Staff is an important aspect of the forums, and generally only requires a few thorough people and a general consensus. Though once that's passed, it's the motivation to be on board with the initiatives of other council members, or even just the motivation to participate in anything that comes Council's way that really keeps the train chugging along.

I'll admit that while last Council started with a decent amount of activity, there was not enough total initiative from everyone to keep moving on to other aspects of Council work. Being in the chat helps, sending PMs helps, teamwork. This, apart from sensitive topics on which differing opinions caused some Council members to rethink of the values of the team made flies drop in terms of activity.

Council is a crucial part of the forums, but if there won't be teamwork, Council -will- fall apart.

I look forward to successful Council endeavours and wish luck to all those participating.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Onizuka on March 03, 2014, 07:29:06 pm
So.

How is council doing now? I know there's a hiring going on, but what else is?

How about that system that anti is developing? What is the news on that?
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Higurashi on July 29, 2014, 12:50:31 pm
The new Council will likely assist the Admins in completing a model for alternative voting rather than first past the post as we have it now.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on September 14, 2014, 10:47:53 pm

Hello all.

As we already said in chat to some of you, days ago, the Council is trying to contact our developer, Zanzarino. We're sending him an e-mail (our lovely Naesala will materially do it) asking him about the game, his current position about the game, etc.

We'd like you to know that, since the letter is on behalf of the Staff and the whole Community.

Here below, the letter we're sending, written by the Council.

Thanks for your attention.

Hello Zanzarino,

It has been awhile since we've seen a post from you on the forums. Thus, we have decided to write you this brief email to ask you few things about Elements, a game many feel has been abandoned. We were wondering if you might be busy or have lost interest in developing the game.

As you know, the game hasn't been updated since December 2012 when you released 1.32. While stagnation continues to be a problem, the community is still quite active and new members are joining the forums. But this could be improved tremendously by your presence. You used to update the game much more often, appear in chat, and give us more feedback. Now, the forums seem forgotten or neglected.

As you may or may not know, efforts have gone into an "Open Elements the Game" that runs similar to the original game, but has been used to test balancing issues, to add much needed cards, and to experiment with other features. We would like your opinion on oEtG; whether it can be allowed to continue existing or if you might have any issues with it. An official word from you on this matter would halt the project from being a problem to you or allow the project to move forward without the concern of whether or not it should exist. A more extensive link is here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/general-discussion/openetg

We are also experiencing some pvp issues again. It works most of the time but tends to break when more people use it at the same time. Even a weekly tourney could get it out of balance. We are concerned that war will cause another full failure, and that a quick fix might not be enough to keep everything working. As such, we would like to ask permission to use oEtG "vanilla" in order to play these events if you cannot make a fix.

The community also feels that the addition of a few new cards might do more good than the coming update. We ask that you consider adding some new cards to the game. As always, the community is filled with ideas and balance testers should you need our assistance.

We do not mean to pry into your personal affairs, but we feel that an explanation is warranted. If you were to add something as small as a monthly update (even if it were just notification that you're to busy to work on the game this month) so that we could rest assured that you still had interest in the game, it would mean a lot to the community. And if you no longer have an interest, we would like to know that as well. Please, even if you're busy, write us back as soon as you can.

Sincerely,


The Staff and all members of the Elements the Game Official Community.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: vrt on September 15, 2014, 06:57:01 am
Cute idea. :/
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Calambar on September 15, 2014, 12:25:42 pm
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: iDaire on September 15, 2014, 12:29:18 pm
This letter may just revive Zanzarino.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: dragtom on September 15, 2014, 01:32:14 pm
or it may have zanz respond that he gave up on the game,
leaving the community to decay.

I'm very nervous about Zanz' answer, but it has got to be asked.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Rutarete on September 15, 2014, 01:52:43 pm
I'm half in the mindset that vrt answered. But, one can hope.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on September 15, 2014, 02:06:05 pm

To be clear: we don't expect nothing except an answer from him, that is something we believe to deserve, as community. Even a brief post from Zanz would be a great result.

Like I said to vrt today, we're all pretty disenchanted, but that letter was something that had to be done.

Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: CuCN on September 15, 2014, 04:21:16 pm
or it may have zanz respond that he gave up on the game,
leaving the community to decay.
If he really gave up on the game, I'd like to know that at least.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Fippe94 on September 15, 2014, 04:50:02 pm
Saying that he has given up on the game/community is better than not saying anything at all.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: CCCombobreaker on September 15, 2014, 04:53:00 pm
Saying that he has given up on the game/community is better than not saying anything at all.

Agreed.  Good to see current council addressing important issues.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Dm on September 15, 2014, 05:15:08 pm
inb4 ignored
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Higurashi on September 15, 2014, 08:59:28 pm
Saying that he has given up on the game/community is better than not saying anything at all.

Agreed.  Good to see current council addressing important issues.
This isn't primarily a move of Council to get answers to questions since I've already asked him these things and more over the months. As you may or may not know, replies are rare (none regarding competitions and 1.4 for instance), however fixes always come after some time once I've told him about crucial problems such as PvP servers not working.

This is more of a plead from all of the non-Admin staff for any sign of activity and a repeated listing of current issues. I felt it was important that he sees more people than just me care about this game enough to e-mail him about it. He can already see we care to some normal degree by perusing the forum.

That brings me to my last point: he can see everything on this forum. The worst thing we can do is pressure him or call him out on things like him saying "Smaller, more frequent updates ftw"
If we do that, he's only going to develop a negative feeling towards working on the game.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: TribalTrouble on September 16, 2014, 10:25:08 am
Glad to see this. Well written and edited as well. :)
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: iDaire on October 14, 2014, 01:00:11 am
So. When I apply for a staff position, it basically depends minimally on the quality of my application and more so on what I have done on the content I am trying to seek staffer-ship to moderate apply for? (The part of the forums I am trying to apply for)? If that is so, then what I have done in other parts of the forums, say for example, chat, doesn't matter if I am applying to a specific part of the forums, say for example, Tournament Organizer?
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Chapuz on October 17, 2014, 12:48:36 am
The council looks at the useful things: how well the applicants can develop their roles as staffers. In general terms, the important points the council members look at before voting is:
- Previous activity in that role, like Will as Deck helper
- Experience (let's say TOing in a tourney when there were not TOs online in that moment)
- Spirit, how much they want to be in that role. Applying for previous staff holes counts here
- Basic skills, like good english for a Newsletter writer, creativity for Brawl master, etc.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: teffy on January 07, 2015, 08:05:42 pm
Has the letter to zanzarino been sent (without returning to sender)?
Just asking, because nobody replied, that he did it.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: serprex on January 07, 2015, 08:23:24 pm
I sent the letter to zanzarino and he has never responded in any form, be it forum post or email to me.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Dm on February 09, 2015, 12:27:08 am
Seriously start considering hiring people for Chat Moderation position individually.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Zawadx on November 14, 2015, 02:39:38 pm
Could we have an End of Year forum awards this year too?
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: antiaverage on November 15, 2015, 03:42:00 am
Could we have an End of Year forum awards this year too?

I think it's a good idea
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Zyardran on November 15, 2015, 03:44:07 am
Could we have an End of Year forum awards this year too?

I think it's a good idea
Who would it go to?
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: mathman101 on November 15, 2015, 04:26:42 am
Could we have an End of Year forum awards this year too?

I think it's a good idea
Who would it go to?

There are multiple areas for forumers, decks, topics, etc to be voted in.
Here are the ones from 2014 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-news-and-announcements/end-of-year-forum-awards-2014-polls/) and 2013 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-news-and-announcements/end-of-the-year-forum-awards-2013-polls/) for reference.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Treldon on November 15, 2015, 08:12:29 am
Sure, why not
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Blacksmith on November 15, 2015, 06:05:40 pm
This is one of my favorite topics. It's a way of giving credit where credit is due. Usually the thread is made in january when the year has passed.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: worldwideweb3 on January 03, 2016, 06:17:04 pm
Could we have an End of Year forum awards this year too?

I think it's a good idea
Who would it go to?

There are multiple areas for forumers, decks, topics, etc to be voted in.
Here are the ones from 2014 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-news-and-announcements/end-of-year-forum-awards-2014-polls/) and 2013 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-news-and-announcements/end-of-the-year-forum-awards-2013-polls/) for reference.

Any news on this?
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: ddevans96 on January 04, 2016, 02:05:28 am
It's being discussed.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: JonathanCrazyJ on March 31, 2017, 06:28:47 pm
Is WM hiring not a fairly pressing concern? with no current WMs and ~6 months till war it could be an idea in the next month or two if they want to make any changes, especially to the market.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: worldwideweb3 on March 31, 2017, 08:01:16 pm
Is WM hiring not a fairly pressing concern? with no current WMs and ~6 months till war it could be an idea in the next month or two if they want to make any changes, especially to the market.

It is and is being discussed :)
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Aves on March 31, 2017, 10:13:14 pm
On that note, any word on when W10 private boards will be unprivated? I still want to see who made the best ADU thread.  :D
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Solaris on March 31, 2017, 10:14:58 pm
On that note, any word on when W10 private boards will be unprivated? I still want to see who made the best ADU thread.  :D
This is beyond Council's control; we cannot alter boards. This is a question for the admins :)
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: worldwideweb3 on March 31, 2017, 10:19:44 pm
On that note, any word on when W10 private boards will be unprivated? I still want to see who made the best ADU thread.  :D
This is beyond Council's control; we cannot alter boards. This is a question for the admins :)

Or the WMs :sillyspin:
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: CactusKing on April 01, 2017, 04:34:47 am
Is WM hiring not a fairly pressing concern? with no current WMs and ~6 months till war it could be an idea in the next month or two if they want to make any changes, especially to the market.
I think WMs will be chosen after the trials
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: antiaverage on April 01, 2017, 02:31:20 pm
Is WM hiring not a fairly pressing concern? with no current WMs and ~6 months till war it could be an idea in the next month or two if they want to make any changes, especially to the market.

We have a special topic just for this issue, don't worry, we will take care of this. We agree with you.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: Zawadx on April 01, 2017, 02:45:46 pm
We have one WM active right now (Jenkar) and they intend to start War around mid-late September. So I think you could wait till the end of Trials to start WM hirings, since a lot of people don't apply on the off-chance that they become Master and want to be General.
Title: Re: Elements Council - General Discussion and Feedback
Post by: antiaverage on April 01, 2017, 03:21:51 pm
We have one WM active right now (Jenkar) and they intend to start War around mid-late September. So I think you could wait till the end of Trials to start WM hirings, since a lot of people don't apply on the off-chance that they become Master and want to be General.

That has been brought up and I think it's sound advice.
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