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Title: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: Higurashi on October 18, 2013, 06:20:37 AM
As we've moved back to Blab, features are still being fixed and added. Feel free to suggest stuff here.

### Below here there be antiaverage ###

For learning all the Blab commands and features, please see:
Blab Commands and Features (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/elements-chat/blab-commands-and-features/)

All issues and feature requests should be reported via the community issue tracker:
Community Issue Tracker (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-bugs-suggestions-and-feedback/elements-community-site-issue-tracker/)

I split this topic off from:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/elements-chat/customizing-elements-chat/

"Customizing Elements Chat" was about customizing your message colors and getting an avatar, etc.

This topic will be about customizing the Blab software itself. I will post changes to Blab as replies to this topic. I will also build up a change log below for major additions and deletions of features. Bug fixes and minor changes will be left out.

Change Log:
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: TheonlyrealBeef on October 18, 2013, 07:08:59 AM
It would be nice to have a plain text mode: no colored font, italics or bold, pictures, smilies and similar appearing as code and not as pictures (just to not have to look at those pictures :p). Oh, and a background that supports Dark text colors.

It may also be an idea to have sounds disabled by default since for people new to the chat I can imagine it being very... annoying until you find a way to turn it off.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Onizuka on October 18, 2013, 09:38:59 PM
It would be nice to have a plain text mode: no colored font, italics or bold, pictures, smilies and similar appearing as code and not as pictures (just to not have to look at those pictures :p). Oh, and a background that supports Dark text colors.

It may also be an idea to have sounds disabled by default since for people new to the chat I can imagine it being very... annoying until you find a way to turn it off.

My eyes agree with this sentiment.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ddevans96 on October 18, 2013, 10:22:57 PM
What they said. If possible, lighten the background so black and white both look good on it.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ColorlessGreen on October 23, 2013, 12:55:07 AM
Being able to see people log into or out of chat would be nice. Being able to toggle whether to see people log into or out of chat would be even nicer. Resurrecting the new-post marquee (or announcing new posts in chat or something else that accomplishes the same thing) would be downright fantastic.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Pella on October 23, 2013, 08:21:53 PM
It would be nice to have a plain text mode: no colored font, italics or bold, pictures, smilies and similar appearing as code and not as pictures (just to not have to look at those pictures :p). Oh, and a background that supports Dark text colors.

It may also be an idea to have sounds disabled by default since for people new to the chat I can imagine it being very... annoying until you find a way to turn it off.

What they said. If possible, lighten the background so black and white both look good on it.

Being able to see people log into or out of chat would be nice. Being able to toggle whether to see people log into or out of chat would be even nicer. Resurrecting the new-post marquee (or announcing new posts in chat or something else that accomplishes the same thing) would be downright fantastic.

In other words, make it more-or-less exactly like the IRC you just took away from us.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Higurashi on October 24, 2013, 01:23:46 PM
IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Blacksmith on October 24, 2013, 02:08:23 PM
IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
When we switched from the old chat to the new I thought it was a bad thing. But several months later I've gotten used to the new chat and I can see the benefits of the new chat and personally I think benefits over shine the disadvantages.

Benefits with new caht compared to the old
1: YOu can ping
2: Pm's open in new tabs at the same page instead opening a new window
3: Easier to read( minor benefit )
4: You can see when people log on and of

Benfits with the old chat
1: You can change your color
2: The layout is looking much better
3: You can see how many posts the persons made in chat + if they got a title.
4: You can pm in chat log.
5: You can mute people
6: You can post pics.

Both benefit and disadvantage
You can change your name

I don't say we should switch back to the new chat, I just think it's worth having this in mind.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ColorlessGreen on October 24, 2013, 03:28:14 PM
IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
When we switched from the old chat to the new I thought it was a bad thing. But several months later I've gotten used to the new chat and I can see the benefits of the new chat and personally I think benefits over shine the disadvantages.

Benefits with new caht compared to the old
1: YOu can ping
2: Pm's open in new tabs at the same page instead opening a new window
3: Easier to read( minor benefit )
4: You can see when people log on and of

Benfits with the old chat
1: You can change your color
2: The layout is looking much better
3: You can see how many posts the persons made in chat + if they got a title.
4: You can pm in chat log.
5: You can mute people
6: You can post pics.

Both benefit and disadvantage
You can change your name

I don't say we should switch back to the new chat, I just think it's worth having this in mind.

Additional benefit to blab: It's hosted by us and not reliant on the IRC protocol, so it can be updated to include more or less whatever we feel like, including everything you listed as a benefit of IRC over this.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Blacksmith on October 24, 2013, 04:00:54 PM
IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
When we switched from the old chat to the new I thought it was a bad thing. But several months later I've gotten used to the new chat and I can see the benefits of the new chat and personally I think benefits over shine the disadvantages.

Benefits with new caht compared to the old
1: YOu can ping
2: Pm's open in new tabs at the same page instead opening a new window
3: Easier to read( minor benefit )
4: You can see when people log on and of

Benfits with the old chat
1: You can change your color
2: The layout is looking much better
3: You can see how many posts the persons made in chat + if they got a title.
4: You can pm in chat log.
5: You can mute people
6: You can post pics.

Both benefit and disadvantage
You can change your name

I don't say we should switch back to the new chat, I just think it's worth having this in mind.

Additional benefit to blab: It's hosted by us and not reliant on the IRC protocol, so it can be updated to include more or less whatever we feel like, including everything you listed as a benefit of IRC over this.
Great:)  I didn't dare to hope for that but that was partly why I made that post. ANd thank you for info color
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Pella on October 24, 2013, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: Higurashi
The old Blab chat is back up! Our IRC channel will remain, but unmoderated as we can't afford to divide our main chat.

IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.
So, the thing we were using is still there, but we don't care about it anymore and are officially ignoring it.  For all practical purposes, it no longer exists, because all official announcements will happen in the new place.  But we didn't take away anything.

Makes perfect sense to me.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: rob77dp on October 24, 2013, 05:29:10 PM
IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
When we switched from the old chat to the new I thought it was a bad thing. But several months later I've gotten used to the new chat and I can see the benefits of the new chat and personally I think benefits over shine the disadvantages.

Benefits with new caht compared to the old
1: YOu can ping
2: Pm's open in new tabs at the same page instead opening a new window
3: Easier to read( minor benefit )
4: You can see when people log on and of

Benfits with the old chat
1: You can change your color
2: The layout is looking much better
3: You can see how many posts the persons made in chat + if they got a title.
4: You can pm in chat log.
5: You can mute people
6: You can post pics.

Both benefit and disadvantage
You can change your name

I don't say we should switch back to the new chat, I just think it's worth having this in mind.
Additional benefit to blab: It's hosted by us and not reliant on the IRC protocol, so it can be updated to include more or less whatever we feel like, including everything you listed as a benefit of IRC over this.

If you're right, CG, then all the beneficial aspects of IRC should be programmed in to the blab chat.  Who is it that needs the forum-Inbox input for making this happen?
:)

(That solution seems win-win to me...  Or maybe win-win-win?)  /TheOfficeisawesome
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ColorlessGreen on October 24, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.

It was an easy choice to switch back considering how many users we lost by moving to IRC. Forum traffic is very important and it should come as no surprise that most users aren't very tech-savvy or just don't want to deal with learning a new chat protocol.
When we switched from the old chat to the new I thought it was a bad thing. But several months later I've gotten used to the new chat and I can see the benefits of the new chat and personally I think benefits over shine the disadvantages.

Benefits with new caht compared to the old
1: YOu can ping
2: Pm's open in new tabs at the same page instead opening a new window
3: Easier to read( minor benefit )
4: You can see when people log on and of

Benfits with the old chat
1: You can change your color
2: The layout is looking much better
3: You can see how many posts the persons made in chat + if they got a title.
4: You can pm in chat log.
5: You can mute people
6: You can post pics.

Both benefit and disadvantage
You can change your name

I don't say we should switch back to the new chat, I just think it's worth having this in mind.
Additional benefit to blab: It's hosted by us and not reliant on the IRC protocol, so it can be updated to include more or less whatever we feel like, including everything you listed as a benefit of IRC over this.

If you're right, CG, then all the beneficial aspects of IRC should be programmed in to the blab chat.  Who is it that needs the forum-Inbox input for making this happen?
:)

(That solution seems win-win to me...  Or maybe win-win-win?)  /TheOfficeisawesome

As we've moved back to Blab, features are still being fixed and added. Feel free to suggest stuff here.

That'd be this very thread, good sir.

edit: To the best of my knowledge, antiaverage is the one who is more or less actively doing updates.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Higurashi on October 25, 2013, 04:34:33 AM
Quote from: Higurashi
The old Blab chat is back up! Our IRC channel will remain, but unmoderated as we can't afford to divide our main chat.

IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.
So, the thing we were using is still there, but we don't care about it anymore and are officially ignoring it.  For all practical purposes, it no longer exists, because all official announcements will happen in the new place.  But we didn't take away anything.

Makes perfect sense to me.
I'm not ignoring it, but it would indeed hurt activity to divide what the forum would regard as our main chat. I'm not sure who "we" are, but practically speaking it certainly exists. "Exist" really isn't the word you'd wanna be using if you want to make some kind of argument here, but I'm further unsure as to what that argument is.

No, I didn't take away anything. I created something, and it's still there. I also coached dozens of users on the use of IRC in an effort to make it easier to use for people, AND for the joy of introducing a protocol that has been with me for many, many years.
If prioritizing forum traffic when this forum runs on ad money doesn't make sense to you... then I get the feeling it's not the reason that's not making sense.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: CuCN on October 25, 2013, 05:41:11 AM
If prioritizing forum traffic when this forum runs on ad money doesn't make sense to you... then I get the feeling it's not the reason that's not making sense.
I'm not seeing any ads on the forum, and I don't have any ad blocking software installed. Should I be seeing ads?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Pella on October 25, 2013, 05:54:36 AM
Quote from: Higurashi
The old Blab chat is back up! Our IRC channel will remain, but unmoderated as we can't afford to divide our main chat.

IRC was there one month after my birth, before I made a channel on ext3, and will still be there in 10 years. As will our channel on the network that I made. I've taken nothing, but I did create one thing and introduced many to a wonderful protocol.
So, the thing we were using is still there, but we don't care about it anymore and are officially ignoring it.  For all practical purposes, it no longer exists, because all official announcements will happen in the new place.  But we didn't take away anything.

Makes perfect sense to me.
I'm not ignoring it, but it would indeed hurt activity to divide what the forum would regard as our main chat. I'm not sure who "we" are, but practically speaking it certainly exists. "Exist" really isn't the word you'd wanna be using if you want to make some kind of argument here, but I'm further unsure as to what that argument is.

No, I didn't take away anything. I created something, and it's still there. I also coached dozens of users on the use of IRC in an effort to make it easier to use for people, AND for the joy of introducing a protocol that has been with me for many, many years.
If prioritizing forum traffic when this forum runs on ad money doesn't make sense to you... then I get the feeling it's not the reason that's not making sense.
I'm the one who's not making sense.  I have no idea what I'm talking about.  Ignore everything I wrote on the subject, and pretend it never happened.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ColorlessGreen on October 29, 2013, 12:57:06 AM
Last time we had a blab (iirc) people could log on as guests without needing to sign up for a forum account. I get that the forum is rad and we want people to sign up for forum accounts, but rather than having chat redirect to a forum login page when someone without an account tries to access it, could we please resume allowing guests? Most of the time when people hit that login screen (with no explanation of anything on it, btw) they're just gonna close out of it rather than going through a whole signup process. There is an in-game link to this chat - we shouldn't force people to sign up for the forums in order to ask a quick question or to get a look at the fact that there's a community for this game. If the community makes a good enough impression of the guests, they'll make an account and join the community then.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: TribalTrouble on October 29, 2013, 10:20:30 PM
Last time we had a blab (iirc) people could log on as guests without needing to sign up for a forum account. I get that the forum is rad and we want people to sign up for forum accounts, but rather than having chat redirect to a forum login page when someone without an account tries to access it, could we please resume allowing guests? Most of the time when people hit that login screen (with no explanation of anything on it, btw) they're just gonna close out of it rather than going through a whole signup process. There is an in-game link to this chat - we shouldn't force people to sign up for the forums in order to ask a quick question or to get a look at the fact that there's a community for this game. If the community makes a good enough impression of the guests, they'll make an account and join the community then.
Agreed. Disallowing guests just goes against the very thing Higurashi just argued for, more trafficing to the forum. I see no reason to disallow guests if we have a good moderation system, and if we don't have a good enough moderation system for it then it is the moderation that requires improvement.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: BeefSupreme on November 01, 2013, 05:03:06 AM
Last time we had a blab (iirc) people could log on as guests without needing to sign up for a forum account. I get that the forum is rad and we want people to sign up for forum accounts, but rather than having chat redirect to a forum login page when someone without an account tries to access it, could we please resume allowing guests? Most of the time when people hit that login screen (with no explanation of anything on it, btw) they're just gonna close out of it rather than going through a whole signup process. There is an in-game link to this chat - we shouldn't force people to sign up for the forums in order to ask a quick question or to get a look at the fact that there's a community for this game. If the community makes a good enough impression of the guests, they'll make an account and join the community then.
Agreed. Disallowing guests just goes against the very thing Higurashi just argued for, more trafficing to the forum. I see no reason to disallow guests if we have a good moderation system, and if we don't have a good enough moderation system for it then it is the moderation that requires improvement.
+1
And, in addition to this, it's my understanding that anyone with a prominent staff position on the forums is also a chat moderator, with the exception of a few groups of people. I say we allow guests, and if security isn't tight enough, we can easily get more moderators :P
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Higurashi on November 01, 2013, 07:22:55 AM
Nope, only Chatmods are Chatmods.

Guest access was enabled long ago. No need to keep quoting the same suggestion.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ColorlessGreen on November 22, 2013, 07:37:36 PM
Toggleable settings for disabling image preview (or possibly just for disabling gif animation in thumbnails)?

nao plz kthxbai
<3
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ColorlessGreen on December 02, 2013, 05:41:34 PM
Guest access was enabled long ago. No need to keep quoting the same suggestion.

Guest access is not currently enabled. Going to chat while not logged in redirects to a forum login/create-an-account page, still with no explanation.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on December 02, 2013, 05:44:02 PM
Guest access is not currently enabled. Going to chat while not logged in redirects to a forum login/create-an-account page, still with no explanation.

(http://i.imgur.com/BQtodb2.png)

The problem is that guests are still redirected to the forum login. When I change it to the Blab login, it allows guests to set their nick and impersonate other users. Not sure what to do about that, so haven't fixed that redirect.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ddevans96 on December 02, 2013, 06:18:44 PM
Open chat from any source, while not logged in to forums, and it redirects you to the forum login page. Thus, regardless of whether guest access is allowed or not, guests cannot enter chat.

EDIT: aa is an edit ninja.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on December 03, 2013, 05:42:27 PM
If you aren't logged in to the forums, you can now still join chat and get a random Guest nick. Guests are automatically cleaned out if they leave and forgot to log out. They can also click a giant Logout button at the top of the screen to force the clean up and be redirected to the forums. If you accidentally log in as a guest, just click the giant Logout button at the top of the screen and you will be redirected to the login page for the forums. Just log in and click Chat -> Blab (Official Chat).

Modifying Blab is such a pain... it's a mess. Hopefully this is working fine, but please report any bugs to me.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: TribalTrouble on December 03, 2013, 11:26:00 PM
If you aren't logged in to the forums, you can now still join chat and get a random Guest nick. Guests are automatically cleaned out if they leave and forgot to log out. They can also click a giant Logout button at the top of the screen to force the clean up and be redirected to the forums. If you accidentally log in as a guest, just click the giant Logout button at the top of the screen and you will be redirected to the login page for the forums. Just log in and click Chat -> Blab (Official Chat).

Modifying Blab is such a pain... it's a mess. Hopefully this is working fine, but please report any bugs to me.
Thank you anti! :)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ddevans96 on December 27, 2013, 06:32:05 AM
Don't feel like making a new thread, so I'll just drop this here.

(http://i.imgur.com/f7uEABx.png)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on December 27, 2013, 06:52:29 AM
Don't feel like making a new thread, so I'll just drop this here.

(http://i.imgur.com/f7uEABx.png)
Looks like irc and blab are slowly merging together...

Got a command list for future reference?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on December 27, 2013, 08:22:44 AM
There is now a lovely /me command, much better than the test versions posted early by ddevans96 :P

Also, /roll and /p no longer break links or messages where they show up in the middle, and neither does the new /me command

Also, /roll has been shrunk to be less spammy

The /me command is a way to express action. For example, you can now type the following into chat:
Code: [Select]
/me tries out the new /me command
The /roll command let's you roll some dice. You type xdy where x is the number of dice and y is the number of faces on each die. For example, to roll four 12-sided dice:
Code: [Select]
/roll 4d12
The /p command is what let's you post existing paintings from other users. You type /p along with the painting number. For example:
Code: [Select]
/p8
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ColorlessGreen on December 31, 2013, 06:52:46 PM
Random chat bug: Putting two different card tags on the same line results in displaying two copies of the first card.

i.e. typing [cardx]Pest[/cardx] [cardx]Armagio[/cardx] results in displaying two copies of pest.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on December 31, 2013, 09:08:14 PM
Random chat bug: Putting two different card tags on the same line results in displaying two copies of the first card.

i.e. typing [cardx]Pest[/cardx] [cardx]Armagio[/cardx] results in displaying two copies of pest.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ColorlessGreen on January 09, 2014, 02:50:11 AM
How about adding a "suffix" command or something similar as a way to get the benefits of /nick without the drawbacks? I'm thinking adding either an option in panels or just a /suffix chat command that would give people with a registered account a like ten character string they can set after their name. When set, it would just display after their normal forum name and a dash.

e.g. I type "/suffix afk" and then when I talk, it says "ColorlessGreen-afk: blah blah spam blah". In addition to AFK and such, it's also quite handy for suffixing "BL" or "CL" or "tournament" or whatever.

Basically, most/all of the benefits to user-settable nicks without the who's-who and impersonation and namechange spam problems.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Captain Scibra on January 10, 2014, 02:46:37 AM
How about adding a "suffix" command or something similar as a way to get the benefits of /nick without the drawbacks? I'm thinking adding either an option in panels or just a /suffix chat command that would give people with a registered account a like ten character string they can set after their name. When set, it would just display after their normal forum name and a dash.

e.g. I type "/suffix afk" and then when I talk, it says "ColorlessGreen-afk: blah blah spam blah". In addition to AFK and such, it's also quite handy for suffixing "BL" or "CL" or "tournament" or whatever.

Basically, most/all of the benefits to user-settable nicks without the who's-who and impersonation and namechange spam problems.

Seconded.  Though, I hardly use them except what is already the 'Away/Online' thing, I see good use in this, particularly those of tournament stuff.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Chapuz on January 10, 2014, 01:40:08 PM
I propose having a ping command. EtG chat needs /ping Higurashi
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 11, 2014, 06:19:52 AM
added tab complete

you can now type a portion of the start of someone's name then press tab to have it autocompleted for you

if there are multiple possibilities, you can keep pressing tab to cycle through the results, or shift+tab to cycle backwards through the results

for example, if the list of users is:
apple, banana, orange, papaya, pineapple, pomegranate, watermelon

if you type
Code: [Select]
hello pthen press TAB, the message will become
Code: [Select]
hello papayaif you press TAB again, the message will become
Code: [Select]
hello pineappleand again...
Code: [Select]
hello pomegranatebut then if you press shift+tab, the message will now become
Code: [Select]
hello pineappleetc.

in addition, if your username appears in a public message, the line will be highlighted
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 11, 2014, 08:15:01 AM
tab complete now adds <@> if the name is the first thing you have added or only <@> have been added before it

for example, if the list of users is:
apple, banana, orange, papaya, pineapple, pomegranate, watermelon

if you type
Code: [Select]
pthen press TAB, the message will become
Code: [Select]
<@papaya>if you press TAB again, the message will become
Code: [Select]
<@pineapple>if you type
Code: [Select]
<@pineapple> pthen press TAB, the message will become
Code: [Select]
<@pineapple> <@papaya>if you type
Code: [Select]
<@pineapple> <@papaya> where is pthen press shift+TAB, the message will become
Code: [Select]
<@pineapple> <@papaya> where is pomegranate
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Chapuz on January 11, 2014, 03:06:15 PM
I can't give you more +rep becaue I already gave you my last one
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: n00b on January 11, 2014, 03:46:59 PM
I can't give you more +rep becaue I already gave you my last one

I gotcha covered
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 11, 2014, 11:54:04 PM
Added join/leave messages so it's easier to see who is joining and leaving.

These only appear in chat, they are not saved to history.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Chapuz on January 12, 2014, 12:54:01 AM
When you press anti + TAB, "<@antiaverage>" is written. It would be better if "<@antiaverage> " was written. What's the difference? that little space in the end you don't have to type before writing  :)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 12, 2014, 01:10:34 AM
When you press anti + TAB, "<@antiaverage>" is written. It would be better if "<@antiaverage> " was written. What's the difference? that little space in the end you don't have to type before writing  :)

I considered this, but decided against it. I'll revisit this at some point.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 12, 2014, 09:01:43 AM
You can now opt+click or alt+click an image/deck/video/card/painting to hide it. Click on Rooms and then the room you were in to show it again.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 12, 2014, 10:17:16 AM
AveragePotato has returned to chat and will announce if a new forum post has appeared in the last 3 minutes. If not, he won't say anything.

Let me know if 3 minutes feels right. I can throttle this to just about anything.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 12, 2014, 10:54:43 AM
Added a few tools at the top of chat now. This let's you hide media (images, paintings, videos, cards, decks), left/joined messages, and AveragePotato messages on and off. Unfortunately with how Blab works, new stuff will still show, but I can fix this at some point.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 13, 2014, 05:36:52 AM
Fixed a bug where links with a single quote (') would make AveragePotato links unclickable
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: CuCN on January 16, 2014, 09:04:06 AM
A tilde (~) breaks posted urls.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: bripod on January 17, 2014, 02:46:04 AM
Added a few tools at the top of chat now. This let's you hide media (images, paintings, videos, cards, decks), left/joined messages, and AveragePotato messages on and off. Unfortunately with how Blab works, new stuff will still show, but I can fix this at some point.

Dude, you rock!
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 21, 2014, 04:40:24 AM
Added a notification system using the Web Notifications API:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAPI/Using_Web_Notifications#Browser_compatibility

This will only work for Chrome, Firefox, and Safari users, maybe the latest version of Opera, and most likely not at all for Internet Explorer (stop using that).

Make sure you refresh Blab to get the latest JavaScript file. Then, click the "Enable Notifications" link at the top of the page. You'll be prompted to allow notifications. Once allowed, you'll be all set.

You will only receive notifications if Blab is not your currently active tab and you are not away. The notifications are triggered by a highlight, which is currently your Blab username. This means it works for normal messages, /me messages, and inline private messages (not private message windows).

If you accidentally clicked disallow or you want to undo a previous disallow:
Chrome (copy+paste into URL bar) -> chrome://settings/contentExceptions#notifications
Firefox -> http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/permissions-manager-give-ability-store-passwords-set-cookies-more
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 21, 2014, 04:49:42 PM
Join/Leave messages now respect your ignores, so if you have someone on ignore, you won't see their join/leave messages
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Captain Scibra on January 27, 2014, 12:23:22 AM
Small OCD little thing.  The /me thing colors your name in pink.  But it colors your text if it is plain white.  Can it either do it for all colors (my preference), or just do the name for whiteys.

EDIT:  Or just make your name your chat text color.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 27, 2014, 02:38:11 AM
EDIT:  Or just make your name your chat text color.

This is probably what I'd most like to do.

Those who haven't set a color being all pink is intentional. I was tempted to do it that way for everyone regardless of color, but got some negative feedback and it wasn't important.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Captain Scibra on January 27, 2014, 03:10:07 PM
Yeah, I kinda prefer your name being your color since it would prevent a bunch of pink madness.  (I meant to note that, but of the two I originally thought of, all pink seemed reasonable.)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: n00b on January 27, 2014, 03:38:18 PM
Wait, the /me changes the color of your username!?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: PlayerOa on January 27, 2014, 07:06:08 PM
I do not have a browser which support this new fancy notification/ping/whatever thing. When I get notified while using another tab, an error pop-up comes up, redirects me to EtG chat and stops me in whatever I'm doing. Is there a way to disable that?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 29, 2014, 02:59:00 AM
I do not have a browser which support this new fancy notification/ping/whatever thing. When I get notified while using another tab, an error pop-up comes up, redirects me to EtG chat and stops me in whatever I'm doing. Is there a way to disable that?

Thank you for the issue report. What browser are you using?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: PlayerOa on January 29, 2014, 06:52:34 AM
I do not have a browser which support this new fancy notification/ping/whatever thing. When I get notified while using another tab, an error pop-up comes up, redirects me to EtG chat and stops me in whatever I'm doing. Is there a way to disable that?

Thank you for the issue report. What browser are you using?
Safari 6.1 (mac)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on January 29, 2014, 08:35:15 PM
Safari 6.1 (mac)

Safari started supporting notifications with Safari 6 but only on Mac OSX 10.8+ (Mountain Lion) and later.

Are you on an OS prior to Mountain Lion? In the meantime, I'll look into a way to make sure it doesn't send you an error.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on February 06, 2014, 07:00:10 PM
I don't know if I am the only one that thinks this, but the deck images kinda ruins the caht for me.
Once I have those in the chat feed, the autoscrolling doesn't work. The same is true for every medai, but the deck image shows up pretty often. On top of that, you can't even see the deck properly without clicking on it, so a link would be just as good.
I can just press hide media to remove them, but then I can't see the deck at all if I'd want to later. If you don't want it removed, is it possible to replace it with a dek.im ink when you click hide media?

Yes, I have noticed those images being an issue, too. Hiding them into a link is a good idea. I will look in to that.

Edit: done, hiding media with decks present will convert the deck images into links
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Dm on February 26, 2014, 01:02:26 AM
Bug : Clicking "Hide All" does not hide deck images, and only upon clicking "Hide Media" are they actually hidden (turned into deck links.)

Unrelated :

Join/Leave messages now respect your ignores, so if you have someone on ignore, you won't see their join/leave messages

Suddenly, everyone ignores Dm
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Captain Scibra on December 10, 2014, 05:23:23 PM
Adding support so that instants buttons can be posted in chat and activated without going to another tab would be cool.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 10, 2014, 07:19:45 PM
Psychologically black isn't a great color for a chat, which is why I prefer kong chat but stick with blab chat because i find the material thats spoken about more interesting in blab.

I was wondering if you could make it so individuals could change the background color, or does programming not allow that and it has to be a system-wide color background?
I talked with AA about this, and he didn't want to change the color background because its the elements background color, but I'm suggesting it here as something to be changed individually. Honestly I feel people would get less annoyed with me if I impacted myself better psychologically.

With the default being the color it is now, of course.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Naesala on December 10, 2014, 11:39:23 PM
Black rather than white does save battery power and reduce eyestrain.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 10, 2014, 11:43:25 PM
Black rather than white does save battery power and reduce eyestrain.

i feel like the eye strain is dependent on the time of day and the weather outside your house if your comp is on a window sill. As for battery power, some of us keep our comps on our charger. Anyway, with my suggestion im hoping it wouldn't have to be a world wide change and could rather be a setting, like changing your color text.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: frimax on December 10, 2014, 11:47:58 PM

Seems a nice update, what about our saved messages and stuff?

Will that change as well?
What about avatar?
What about uploading images, or that must be done still through link.

Thank you.
Always an ETG fan.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on September 18, 2015, 04:26:34 AM
I forgot to update this topic with recent changes. Here is my attempt to remember what all has changed recently.


I may be forgetting some things...
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on September 22, 2015, 08:57:25 AM
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: rob77dp on September 22, 2015, 09:01:59 PM
  • You now only get highlighted if your username in a message matches exactly your username, capitalization matters, it can't be a substring of another word
  • AveragePotato has increased his vocabulary
  • Potatoes are now slightly faster
  • The Elements database now does auto-backups at 10:31 UTC

;D
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Basman-1453 on September 22, 2015, 09:07:15 PM
  • You now only get highlighted if your username in a message matches exactly your username, capitalization matters, it can't be a substring of another word
    Cool, the Scunthorpe Problem is no longer a problem :p
  • AveragePotato has increased his vocabulary
    I think we can get rid all the foreign Waldo Potatoes. Other than that, cool.
  • Potatoes are now slightly faster
  • The Elements database now does auto-backups at 10:31 UTC
    And I thought Treld told me that auto-backups was at 0631 UTC. :/
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on September 22, 2015, 11:06:52 PM
And I thought Treld told me that auto-backups was at 0631 UTC. :/[/li][/list]

That's 06:31 UTC-4, or EST, at least until November 1st (my timezone)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: UTAlan on September 29, 2015, 03:19:33 PM
  • You now only get highlighted if your username in a message matches exactly your username, capitalization matters, it can't be a substring of another word

Could this be customizable? For example, can I specify that I want to be notified on "UTAlan", "Alan", and "UTA"?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on September 29, 2015, 03:26:17 PM
Could this be customizable? For example, can I specify that I want to be notified on "UTAlan", "Alan", and "UTA"?

I've had "highlight list" on my TODO for some time. I would love this, too. I've mostly just been lazy about creating a way for a user to input and save that list of highlight words.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Ginyu on September 29, 2015, 03:30:55 PM
That would be extremely awesome.

You could also use this as notification, e.g. if AP posts something in a specific topic.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Treldon on September 29, 2015, 03:41:27 PM
+1 for highlight list
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on September 29, 2015, 11:06:56 PM
Highlights tentatively added to Account Settings (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/profile/?area=account). Try it out and let me know how it goes. You may need to refresh chat whenever you change your highlights.

also, /quit has been implemented, but don't tell rob

You could also use this as notification, e.g. if AP posts something in a specific topic.

AP can't highlight/notify you, otherwise you would get highlighted/notified every time you made a post.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: rob77dp on September 29, 2015, 11:39:05 PM
/me reads the fine print! :)  (but not invisible print... so if there is any of that, I'm in the dark)

 :P
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: kirbylover314 on September 30, 2015, 02:07:06 AM
Just for kicks and giggles, can we have a "/jokequit"?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on September 30, 2015, 03:33:39 AM
Just for kicks and giggles, can we have a "/jokequit"?

Just do /quit without adding a message.



Alright, basically done with the highlights feature. Just to recap, you can add a list of comma separated words (with or without spaces) for Highlights to your Account Settings (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/profile/?area=account). The words are case-sensitive, e.g. if you add Bob keep in mind that bob will not cause a highlight/notice. Remember that partial matches won't count, so dm will not match admin. NOTICE: You must refresh Chat in order for any changes to your highlights to work.

Additionally, the /quit feature is basically done. If you type /quit goodbye!, the message goodbye! will be sent to chat, and you will be logged out of chat and redirected to the Forums. You can type any message after /quit that you would like. If you type /quit without a message, then the old joke message will be sent to chat. If you try to use /quit while invisible, no message will be sent to chat.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on October 01, 2015, 09:57:31 PM
Guests can now be highlighted/notified via just their creature name. This is case-sensitive.

Tab-complete now works for the creature name of a guest. This is case-insensitive.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: CleanOnion on October 02, 2015, 08:25:06 PM
Perhaps have a horizontal rule be auto-posted when nobody's spoken for minute or 30 secs or something like that?

Or perhaps have it dependent on the frequency of messages... I don't know how that'd work. Perhaps simpler is better  ;D
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on October 26, 2015, 06:28:38 PM
Math enthusiasts and homework grumps can now communicate better with http://asciimath.org/ support :)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: rob77dp on October 26, 2015, 06:51:51 PM
Formal request:

- Flag-setting for leagues

- ping-by-painting / highlight-by-painting

- *good reminder AD! --> my 3rd item was a real, non-crap, non-junky, less-janky, and usable chat history feature/function... the current one is hideous and anything beyond 2 hours is a disaster to find/retrieve.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Treldon on October 26, 2015, 06:53:46 PM
Math enthusiasts and homework grumps can now communicate better with http://asciimath.org/ support :)

Yay

- ping-by-painting / highlight-by-painting

How would this work? I paint "rob" and you get pinged? How would it recognise what I wrote/painted?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: rob77dp on October 26, 2015, 07:01:22 PM
- ping-by-painting / highlight-by-painting

How would this work? I paint "rob" and you get pinged? How would it recognise what I wrote/painted?

I set my profile to ping me for Paintings #1,10,38,310,1018 (randomly selected values here).  In blab chat somebody inserts painting #17 into chat nothing happens. In blab chat somebody inserts painting #10 into chat I am highlight / pinged (not sure which it could/should/users-would-like to be).
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: AD TienzuStorm on October 26, 2015, 08:21:41 PM
I honestly would prefer that History be improved. That's my biggest pet peeve right now.

Also, could Panels please have the same pallet design as the Color button on the bottom?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Submachine on October 26, 2015, 10:30:46 PM
I honestly would prefer that History be improved. That's my biggest pet peeve right now.
I agree that chat history is a mess. ^^" In case you want a shorter and easier to implement feature, antiaverage, then I suggest a Magic Eight Ball feature. :)

It would work like /eightball! "Insert question here", and then it would reply with Yes/No/Other options except maybe.
Here is an example: http://www.indra.com/cgi-bin/spikes-8-ball
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: CuCN on October 31, 2015, 05:44:59 AM
The highlight list seems to ignore everything after the 64th non-space character.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on November 02, 2015, 04:23:57 AM
The highlight list seems to ignore everything after the 64th non-space character.

No one needs that many highlights, so I doubt I will be fixing this. I appreciate the bug report, however, and will add it to my list to test for further issues.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Jenkar on November 08, 2015, 06:52:20 PM
Bug : If a post is made, AP highlights it, then another is made in the same thread but then deleted, the preceding post is eligible for AP highlight again.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: iancudorinmarian on December 16, 2015, 08:52:46 PM
May I request bringing back the feature that allowed you to PM people while invisible?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Solaris on December 16, 2015, 08:54:29 PM
May I request bringing back the feature that allowed you to PM people while invisible?
Supported, +1
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Kuroaitou on December 16, 2015, 09:55:42 PM
May I request bringing back the feature that allowed you to PM people while invisible?
Supported, +1

What? Why?

I thought it was kind of annoying that an Invisible player could PM you, and then you had -NO- way of clicking on their name to respond back to them. That just seems like an irritating feature to be honest. :(
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Submachine on December 16, 2015, 11:45:49 PM
May I request bringing back the feature that allowed you to PM people while invisible?
Supported, +1

What? Why?

I thought it was kind of annoying that an Invisible player could PM you, and then you had -NO- way of clicking on their name to respond back to them. That just seems like an irritating feature to be honest. :(
I'd like a feature that makes us able to send PMs to invisible people, by typing in their username in an empty space. It would of course fail if said person was offline, and not invisible.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: UTAlan on December 23, 2015, 08:55:11 PM
You can now use /card or /card X (where X is a number between 1 and 7) to draw cards.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Submachine on December 23, 2015, 10:32:05 PM
+rep for all the work put in the latest changes. :)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: UTAlan on December 27, 2015, 11:02:45 PM
Added a few tools at the top of chat now. This let's you hide media (images, paintings, videos, cards, decks), left/joined messages, and AveragePotato messages on and off. Unfortunately with how Blab works, new stuff will still show, but I can fix this at some point.

This is now fixed. Once you click hide Media (or L/J, PM, Potato, or All), all future media (or whatever you clicked) should be hidden, as well.

I also made multiple improvements to chat history, including a bigger panel, wider selection of time periods, and a Go To Page option. Enjoy!



EDIT 1:

Oh, and I also created /money recently. You can do "/money" or "/money balance" to see your balance, "/money set X" to set you balance to any integer, "/money add X" and "/money sub X" to add or subtract, respectively, to your balance. (Note that this is not real money, nor does it have any real significance. I made it mostly for playing chat blackjack!) :)



EDIT 2:

In case you want a shorter and easier to implement feature, antiaverage, then I suggest a Magic Eight Ball feature. :)

It would work like /eightball! "Insert question here", and then it would reply with Yes/No/Other options except maybe.

Added! Just do "/eightball <question>". This will be hidden with Hide Media.



EDIT 3:

Also, could Panels please have the same pallet design as the Color button on the bottom?

This is done.

Also, this is a pretty epic 1600th post, if I may say so myself.  :P



EDIT 4:

Toggle Media,L/J,PM,Potato,All are now green links that turn red when toggled off.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: CleanOnion on December 28, 2015, 01:54:54 AM
Added a few tools at the top of chat now. This let's you hide media (images, paintings, videos, cards, decks), left/joined messages, and AveragePotato messages on and off. Unfortunately with how Blab works, new stuff will still show, but I can fix this at some point.

This is now fixed. Once you click hide Media (or L/J, PM, Potato, or All), all future media (or whatever you clicked) should be hidden, as well.

I don't suppose you'd be able to add a little green light, or boldness, or a font colour, that indicated whether these options are activated or deactivated? I don't want to go missing any PMs
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: UTAlan on December 28, 2015, 02:21:13 AM
I don't suppose you'd be able to add a little green light, or boldness, or a font colour, that indicated whether these options are activated or deactivated? I don't want to go missing any PMs

Done! The links are now green when on, clicking them turns them red (for toggled off), clicking again turns them green, and so on.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: CrockettRocket on December 28, 2015, 08:40:27 AM
Love the new changes to chat history. Maybe a keyword/phrases finder too? Ex: "bye CR" [1] [day]
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Kuroaitou on December 30, 2015, 09:18:47 AM
The fact that you fixed Chat History to be all that more useful UTAlan is a godsend. Thank you and anti and Higurashi and so many others who have made Blab into what it is now. Seriously.  :-*
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ddevans96 on January 02, 2016, 05:28:42 AM
Would like an option to Toggle Math - takes up a lot of vertical space with heavy usage. Doesn't need to be removed, just reverted to simple text form if possible.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Ginyu on January 09, 2016, 10:18:49 PM
I can't believe I am saying that, but please bring AveragePotato back. It is been missing in the tournament chat for quite long.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Solaris on January 09, 2016, 10:32:08 PM
I can't believe I am saying that, but please bring AveragePotato back. It is been missing in the tournament chat for quite long.
Seconded. It'd be nice to see when matches finish for bracket purposes.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: UTAlan on January 09, 2016, 10:38:13 PM
Would like an option to Toggle Math - takes up a lot of vertical space with heavy usage. Doesn't need to be removed, just reverted to simple text form if possible.

This is done. Removing it was easier than reverting to text form. I'll see if I can get that working later.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: UTAlan on January 13, 2016, 08:06:32 PM
I don't suppose you'd be able to add a little green light, or boldness, or a font colour, that indicated whether these options are activated or deactivated? I don't want to go missing any PMs

Done! The links are now green when on, clicking them turns them red (for toggled off), clicking again turns them green, and so on.

These values are now saved and tied to your account, so when you revisit chat, it will remember your Toggle Settings.



EDIT: Also, Math now goes to plain text when toggled rather than hiding completely.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Zyardran on January 13, 2016, 11:25:26 PM
Thank you UTA! +Rep for you! :-*
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: UTAlan on January 15, 2016, 04:20:45 AM
Backslash no longer needs to be escaped with another backslash. \o/ Note that [deck\][/deck] still works (escaping the tag to show how to use it).
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: iancudorinmarian on January 15, 2016, 09:24:31 AM
Backslash no longer needs to be escaped with another backslash. \o/ Note that \[deck\]\[/deck\] still works (escaping the tag to show how to use it).
I'm just curious, what made it need to be escaped, but things like \n and the like didn't?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: UTAlan on January 15, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
I'm just curious, what made it need to be escaped, but things like \n and the like didn't?

http://php.net/stripslashes is used in the code.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: UTAlan on January 18, 2016, 04:38:47 PM
Private Potato and Join/Leave messages now use the timestamp format you have setup in Panels.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: ddevans96 on February 08, 2016, 01:17:26 AM
Private chat is bugged - new messages simply don't seem to show up.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Solaris on February 08, 2016, 01:18:37 AM
Any updates from AA about TourneyPotato?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: dragtom on February 08, 2016, 12:32:42 PM
Whenever I try to go to the chat I'm being redirected to http://elementscommunity.org/chat/info.php?wttp=nopr (http://elementscommunity.org/chat/info.php?wttp=nopr),
which looks like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/U6InGbQ.png).
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: DoubleCapitals on February 08, 2016, 12:55:57 PM
^ I'll be at the discord/irc if you want to chat/rant
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Fippe94 on February 08, 2016, 01:52:07 PM
You can go to chat as guests.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Higurashi on February 08, 2016, 02:01:03 PM
Should be fixed.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Jenkar on February 11, 2016, 05:09:59 PM
"[2016-02-11 17:36:05] Jenkar: @UTAlan : two things that may be worth considering if you have some time : on safari, there's two bugs with blab : i can't tab to complete names, and i sometime send messages that are never gotten by the server. Not an internet problem"
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Submachine on February 11, 2016, 06:06:11 PM
i sometime send messages that are never gotten by the server. Not an internet problem"
That happens to all of us sometimes.

I also noticed that the ASCII symbols used for the /quit function are broken.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: antiaverage on March 29, 2016, 01:55:55 PM
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Zawadx on April 24, 2016, 02:10:31 AM
What's the max size for a blab painting? How long is the maximum time one can spend on a painting?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: andretimpa on May 03, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Sugestion:

Make Potato not care for posts older than a week (I'm looking at you PP)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab
Post by: Solaris on May 20, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
Suggestion:

TourneyPotato; An AveragePotato that resides in the Tourney Room, and only notifies about posts made in the PvP Tournaments section, so that us TO's don't have to have two chat tabs open (or refresh unread posts every 30 seconds) to update the challonge.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: UTAlan on July 12, 2016, 05:15:40 PM
Suggestion:

TourneyPotato; An AveragePotato that resides in the Tourney Room, and only notifies about posts made in the PvP Tournaments section, so that us TO's don't have to have two chat tabs open (or refresh unread posts every 30 seconds) to update the challonge.

Done.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Ginyu on July 13, 2016, 08:09:59 PM
Thank you, UTA! :)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: CleanOnion on July 20, 2016, 09:46:56 PM
The l/j timestamps appear to be exactly one minute behind the message timestamps

EDIT: That might be my end. I'm actually not sure

EDIT: The l/j timestamps match my computer time but I think my computer time is a minute behind. My end, or coincidence?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: UTAlan on July 20, 2016, 10:25:45 PM
Masters can now go invisible.

Invisible users can now PM other users. Also, users receiving PMs (from invisible & visible users) can now open the PM window by clicking on the username in the PM itself.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Kuroaitou on July 20, 2016, 11:34:50 PM
Masters can now go invisible.

Invisible users can now PM other users. Also, users receiving PMs (from invisible & visible users) can now open the PM window by clicking on the username in the PM itself.

Thank you again UTA...

...and now ghosting resumes as normal. >:)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: CleanOnion on July 21, 2016, 11:21:24 PM
I don't seem to receive PMs unless I am currently looking at Blab's tab.

To test this, I opened Blab in two windows:

 - on Chrome, logged in as CleanOnion
 - on Edge, logged in as Denvis

I sent a few messages back and forth between the two accounts.

(http://i.imgur.com/CTqjgzR.png)

Left: Denvis on Edge; Right: CleanOnion on Chrome

Before any PMs were sent, both instances of Blab were working normally.

When I sent message from Chrome to Edge, the messages appeared normally despite that window not being focused. I did not enable notifications but I can assume that they would work normally too.

When I sent messages from Edge to Chrome, they did not appear on screen. Furthermore, for as long as Chrome was not the active window, Blab did not update further and no other chat messages were received. This erroneous behaviour continued until I made Chrome my active window, at which point the missing messages appeared simultaneously (with correct timestamps).

This is problematic because it means I can no longer receive notifications for PMs received while away.

The debugging console told me, each time a message failed to appear:
(http://i.imgur.com/lmnT1nd.png)

This line in blab.js is
(http://i.imgur.com/XaBYYKr.png)

The error is being caused by "/blab_from">(.*?)</.exec(split[i])" being null. While I attempted to tinker around a little bit to fix it, I was unsuccessful.

I don't know if that is what is causing the error.

Conclusion: bug on Chrome (my Chrome, at least) means I cannot receive PMs while AFK, and if someone attempts to PM me I don't receive any other messages either.

This one's a bit of a bummer




Additionally, I discovered that the common error in which Blab stops sending or receiving any messages and the only solution is to refresh is caused by this error:
(http://i.imgur.com/r3PtMrh.png)
caused by
(http://i.imgur.com/hPp5fSX.png)

I don't know how to fix that. Although it happened on Edge after a few minutes, it hasn't happened to me on Chrome for a long time.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: iancudorinmarian on July 22, 2016, 08:49:12 AM
I've been having something like that too. Chat seemed silent and all of the sudden a swarm of messages were appearing. Pretty annoying.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: CleanOnion on July 23, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/j0XvQVF.png)

The issue is widespread
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: TheonlyrealBeef on July 24, 2016, 09:30:14 PM
Also getting the pm-issue on Firefox, some people -myself included- are now also missing the "away", "pictures" and "ignore" buttons.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: rob77dp on July 24, 2016, 09:39:38 PM
I've been having something like that too. Chat seemed silent and all of the sudden a swarm of messages were appearing. Pretty annoying.

I am also now experiencing this almost non-stop. It used to be (months and months) intermittently occurring but now basically every time I use chat and tab-away then tab-back a flood of activity appears.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on July 24, 2016, 10:02:50 PM
experiencing the pm issue from time to time. Rest seems fine though.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: UTAlan on July 26, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
Thanks for the reports. Looking into this now.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: UTAlan on July 26, 2016, 03:11:33 PM
Chat/PM issue is now fixed! Huge thanks to CleanOnion, as this post:

The debugging console told me, each time a message failed to appear:
(http://i.imgur.com/lmnT1nd.png)

This line in blab.js is
(http://i.imgur.com/XaBYYKr.png)

The error is being caused by "/blab_from">(.*?)</.exec(split[i])" being null. While I attempted to tinker around a little bit to fix it, I was unsuccessful.

is ultimately what helped me find and fix the issue. Apologies that it happened at all (was caused by my most recent updates), but it should be good now :)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Linkcat on July 27, 2016, 08:01:31 PM
(https://gyazo.com/8c13dffc0f30494c7b68099ebc1e9e0c.png)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: UTAlan on August 08, 2016, 01:57:14 AM
(https://gyazo.com/8c13dffc0f30494c7b68099ebc1e9e0c.png)

Forgot to post here. This has been fixed.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Solaris on August 23, 2016, 04:07:36 PM
Suggestion: Can the super secret TO announce feature (bigtext, used for announcing brackets/special announcements in tourneys) be made to ping/highlight everyone in the room? Sometimes people miss the "We're making brackets, is there anyone not participating?" announcement, when they're not participating, and it ends up disrupting the tournament. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: UTAlan on August 23, 2016, 04:24:58 PM
Noting for myself: Challonge/Blab integration.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Jenkar on August 23, 2016, 04:30:25 PM
Noting for myself: Challonge/Blab integration.
Integrate google sheets pls <3
#addict
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: rob77dp on August 23, 2016, 05:16:18 PM
Noting for myself: Challonge/Blab integration.
Integrate google sheets pls <3
#addict
+1

(I really just want others that are capable and willing to be able to do this so I can consume the fruits of such labor.)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: iancudorinmarian on August 23, 2016, 06:39:53 PM
We want twitch chat emotes!

Or just the Kappa one, at the very least.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: UTAlan on August 23, 2016, 08:51:44 PM
We want twitch chat emotes!

Or just the Kappa one, at the very least.

Kappa?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: asdw152 on August 23, 2016, 10:48:44 PM
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/925/494/218.png_large)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: iancudorinmarian on August 25, 2016, 04:12:44 PM
Kappa: https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/25/1.0
SMOrc: https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/52/1.0
PogChamp: https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/88/1.0
4Head: https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/354/1.0
BibleThump: https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/86/1.0

We need these emotes. UTA, pls
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Solaris on August 25, 2016, 04:16:32 PM
Kappa: https://twitchemotes.com/emote/_Kappa_
SMOrc: https://twitchemotes.com/emote/_SMOrc_
PogChamp: https://twitchemotes.com/emote/_PogChamp_
4Head: https://twitchemotes.com/emote/_4Head_

We need these emotes. UTA, pls
No BibleThump BibleThump
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: CleanOnion on August 25, 2016, 04:27:49 PM
You know you can just use [img][/img]?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: ddevans96 on August 26, 2016, 01:08:18 AM
You know you can just use [img][/img]?

I agree honestly, if you really want to use them just use this imo
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: godisnowonline on September 25, 2016, 10:06:52 AM
Reveal subforums of posts with ap? I really don't want to get baited into a religion thread again, it annoys the shit out of me.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: TheonlyrealBeef on October 03, 2016, 12:17:48 PM
After recent chat discussion: it would be nice if there was a way of dealing with leave/join spams without banning said member. They usually do not do this by choice, and whack-a-moling guests this way is the easiest way to scare them off (I think).

Several options were discussed, here's some that appeal to me:
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Vineroz on October 24, 2016, 07:18:06 AM
Not sure why it hasn't been mentioned before, but please ban guesticles to make paintings. I think it makes sense to limit it as a member-only feature.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on November 17, 2016, 09:43:50 AM
Not sure why it hasn't been mentioned before, but please ban guesticles to make paintings. I think it makes sense to limit it as a member-only feature.

Done.



Added functionality to the /card command. You can now draw Elements cards in various ways. Details here:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/elements-chat/blab-commands-and-features/msg1122406/#post_cards

I will be adding a way to use the Elements names instead of just numbers, and an option for only drawing unique cards (no repeats).

The playing cards were always able to draw repeats, so I allowed the same for the Elements cards. Let me know if it's important to you to draw unique cards for either of standard playing cards or Elements cards.

Also let me know if you have a suggestion for a different command syntax.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on November 17, 2016, 11:39:35 AM
Reveal subforums of posts with ap? I really don't want to get baited into a religion thread again, it annoys the shit out of me.

Done. AveragePotato now states the subforum just like PrivatePotato.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on November 21, 2016, 04:27:22 AM
User groups are a bit more synchronized with Blab.

Users without a primary user group now use their post group.

Forum members no longer show their user group as Member, instead showing the primary user group or post group.

Guests are now in a Guest group which has its own separate permissions.

Anyone with the Chat Moderator group, whether set as a primary or additional user group, will be able to moderate chat and go invisible.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on December 09, 2016, 07:53:45 AM
All forum groups are now matched with a corresponding Blab group.
Blab group names now match the color of the forum group names.
Chat Moderators can now join the Chat Moderator room again.
You can now post a deck code without the deck tag and it will still generate an image, but only for decks with 30 cards minimum. This is mostly intended for confused guests.
Added greentext.
Fixed apostrophes in links.
Links now use the anchor tag and target is _blank to use a new window/tab. This allows browser extensions like Imagus to perform their function in chat.

Currently working on fixing up media toggles to show links for videos, etc.
Currently working on alt/option click to convert to a link and back.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on December 22, 2016, 12:47:37 AM
Added ways to get boilerplate help from AveragePotato http://elementscommunity.org/forum/elements-chat/blab-commands-and-features/#post_help

You can no longer ping yourself.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on December 22, 2016, 09:14:37 AM
Added the first version of an implementation of the skyroll™ game to /roll

Future implementations will improve on the aesthetics and add features, but will not reset the roll records.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 04, 2017, 05:30:49 PM
Fixed the italics issue for mentions where the right guillemet was missing

Fixed links without a protocol acting as relative links

Starting a line with / will prevent links from being parsed

Images can now be embedded with /img

Images that are embedded without a url will instead use the input as a search with Google Images, returning the first result
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 05, 2017, 02:37:50 AM
added /gif and [gif]
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 06, 2017, 05:28:47 AM
added /card
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 12, 2017, 12:07:33 AM
changed the old /card to /draw
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: UTAlan on January 12, 2017, 09:32:34 PM
Added /rollinfo
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: 1011686 on January 16, 2017, 01:48:03 AM
Is it possible to get a "last seen" or "first seen" feature, where AP shows the very first or last blab message someone sent?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 16, 2017, 04:51:05 PM
Is it possible to get a "last seen" or "first seen" feature, where AP shows the very first or last blab message someone sent?

It's possible to give the first and last message someone sent to chat, but not the last time they were logged in to chat as we don't record that. While we could add logs for someone logging in and out, based on the way Blab does persistence, it would flood the database unnecessarily for some users.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 17, 2017, 06:47:05 AM
Added /first and /last so you can lookup the first and last message of a user
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 17, 2017, 08:01:37 PM
Added:
/pingjoin
/pingsay
/pj
/ps

These will notify you when a specified user joins or next says/does something. Going from away or invisible to online or visible counts as joining.

You can repeat the command multiple times with different users to build a list.

Sending the command without specifying a user will clear the list.

The settings will persist across room changes, but not across reloads.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 17, 2017, 08:33:05 PM
added /pinglist and /pl so you can list your current pings
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 23, 2017, 11:05:43 PM
The /first and /last commands now use the user id, so name changes and underscores won't affect the search. The search is and has always been case insensitive as well.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 24, 2017, 01:51:41 AM
Added /issue command to share the Bitbucket issue tracker for the community software
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on January 24, 2017, 04:10:49 AM
All future issues and feature requests should be posted to:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-bugs-suggestions-and-feedback/elements-community-site-issue-tracker/

You can get the link to the tracker by using the command /issue in Blab

We will still post here when changes are made to chat in order to keep a running log for those who don't follow the issue tracker.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 05, 2017, 05:19:31 PM
Jan 18: (these changes by UTAlan)
* added /xkcd
* fixed chat toggles when no user found
* added number formatting to /rollinfo
* privatepotato is lazier if you don't have private board access

Jan 23:
* updated /first and /last to find and use user ID
* fixed chat color errors for new users
* removed IRC from the forum Chat dropdown
* added the /issue command

Jan 27:
* added a local computer time synchronizer to the roll timer
* added PrivatePotato messages for the roll timer

Jan 31:
* add live timer to roll timer icon, toggle visibility on click

Feb 2:
* add button for user tag in forum post editor

Feb 4:
* add /r as shortcut for /roll, add /rr as a way to roll without logging to skyroll
* add /ri as shortcut for /rollinfo
* completely overhaul rollinfo to give more info and use proper grammar and tense depending on whether the set was completed
* add a way to check dice count to rollinfo (e.g. /ri 1d)
* fix /pingjoin and /pingsay to work with dashed names

Feb 5:
* use dice icon to not only toggle visibility of timer, but also PrivatePotato messages
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Zyardran on February 16, 2017, 02:06:22 AM
So the past couple days my mobile chat has been acting up, as I talked with UTA earlier today about it, it doesn't scroll unless I start typing, and when I'm not typing it rubber bands ad I have to scroll manually. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 16, 2017, 04:25:51 AM
So the past couple days my mobile chat has been acting up, as I talked with UTA earlier today about it, it doesn't scroll unless I start typing, and when I'm not typing it rubber bands ad I have to scroll manually. Anyone else?

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-bugs-suggestions-and-feedback/elements-community-site-issue-tracker/
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: 1011686 on February 16, 2017, 05:32:51 AM
Uh, the chat just straight up isn't working for me right now. I am using a wiiu tablet, and it normally works, but almost nothing is loading when i enter the chat. Was there a change made in the last several hours?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 16, 2017, 05:39:00 AM
Uh, the chat just straight up isn't working for me right now. I am using a wiiu tablet, and it normally works, but almost nothing is loading when i enter the chat. Was there a change made in the last several hours?

Yes, try a hard refresh or clearing your cache
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: 1011686 on February 16, 2017, 05:55:31 AM
Its still not working, but in a different way. I tried both deleting cookies and reseting save data.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on February 16, 2017, 09:50:04 AM
So the past couple days my mobile chat has been acting up, as I talked with UTA earlier today about it, it doesn't scroll unless I start typing, and when I'm not typing it rubber bands ad I have to scroll manually. Anyone else?

My chat is blocked by chat emoji. Cant see anything
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 17, 2017, 02:13:22 AM
Its still not working, but in a different way. I tried both deleting cookies and reseting save data.

My chat is blocked by chat emoji. Cant see anything

Still an issue? Can you post screenshots? Have you hard-refreshed?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on February 17, 2017, 10:40:15 AM
Mine's on phone
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Linkcat on February 17, 2017, 10:48:18 AM
Did you try pushing the X?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on February 17, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
Did you try pushing the X?

I'm not that stupid XD Yh, i did try that but didn't work.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Zyardran on February 17, 2017, 11:19:09 AM
Did you try pushing the X?

I'm not that stupid XD Yh, i did try that but didn't work.
Can confirm. I've had the same problem since yesterday, just haven't been able to post
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 18, 2017, 05:06:48 AM
Can't reproduce yet, do try clearing your cache
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Solaris on February 18, 2017, 05:08:57 AM
Mobile chat works fine on Galaxy S6. Perhaps try telling us your OS versions and devices?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on February 18, 2017, 09:04:17 AM
Can't reproduce yet, do try clearing your cache

Uhh, how to on phone?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 19, 2017, 02:08:07 AM
Can't reproduce yet, do try clearing your cache

Uhh, how to on phone?

Which phone browser?
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on February 19, 2017, 09:03:45 AM
Can't reproduce yet, do try clearing your cache

Uhh, how to on phone?

Which phone browser?

Safari
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 19, 2017, 01:40:03 PM
Can't reproduce yet, do try clearing your cache

Uhh, how to on phone?

Which phone browser?

Safari

http://refreshyourcache.com/en/safari-mobile/
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Fippe94 on February 19, 2017, 07:54:45 PM
Chat doesn't seem to work at all on Firefox
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on February 19, 2017, 08:05:49 PM
Chat doesn't seem to work at all on Firefox

I use firefox (for like a year now...)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Fippe94 on February 19, 2017, 08:15:14 PM
Hmm yeah, apparently my firefox wasn't updated, works now. Looked like the same problem as you had on safari though, with the emoji thing being up and rest of chat being empty.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Ginyu on February 19, 2017, 09:29:51 PM
For a few days I've been getting this. Clearing cache did not do anything. Tried both Firefox and Opera on PC.

(http://up.picr.de/28374909pz.jpg)

The only working buttons are "Rules" and "Logout", which link to the forum. All the other buttons aren't working.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Fippe94 on February 19, 2017, 09:31:04 PM
Yeah that what I got on Firefox, but it went away when I updated Firefox.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 20, 2017, 03:45:48 PM
For people still experiencing this issue, can you please post all details about your system? What operating system are you running, which version, which browser are you using, which version. I can't reproduce this, and without being able to reproduce I can't fix it. I am using Firefox 51.0.1 and Chrome 56.0.2924.87 on MacOS 10.12.3 as well as Chrome 56.0.2924.87 on Android 7.1.1 and all is working for me.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Ginyu on February 20, 2017, 03:55:58 PM
Firefox 43.0.1, on Windows 7. I never had any local issues with anything related to Elements because of my browser.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 20, 2017, 04:04:45 PM
Firefox 43.0.1, on Windows 7. I never had any local issues with anything related to Elements because of my browser.

You have an issue right now that I'm trying to help you with.

As stated here:
https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Install-and-Update/Install-an-older-version-of-Firefox/ta-p/1564#firefox:win7:fx51

Quote
Warning: Using old versions of Firefox poses a significant security risk.

You are currently far out of date. The latest version of Firefox for Windows 7 is 51.0.1 which you can download here:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

I will still download Firefox 43.0.1 (https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/43.0.1/) and see if I can reproduce, but I strongly recommend you upgrade Firefox on your system.

Edit:
I have been able to reproduce the issue on Firefox 43.0.1 and will look in to it. If you are having the issue, please upgrade your browser.

Edit 2:
The issue is being caused by:
Code: [Select]
let classes  = new Array();
This is part of the show/hide mod UTAlan recently implemented. The problem is that let is part of a newer version of JavaScript which older versions of browsers do not support.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 20, 2017, 04:14:51 PM
We are currently discussing if we should refactor the code to support older browsers or whether we should force browser upgrades.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: Ginyu on February 20, 2017, 04:28:06 PM
Thanks for the testing and heads up.

Please keep in mind that forcing people to certain actions they are usually responsible only for themselves is often seen quite badly. I have my reasons for not updating my browser, and will have to consider if the chat is worth throwing away those reasons.

After all, it is your server, so your decission counts. Do what you think is best, that has brought this site pretty far.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: antiaverage on February 20, 2017, 04:32:00 PM
My personal preference right now is to refactor chat to work for older browsers for this specific issue.

However, all discussion for this will be here: https://bitbucket.org/elementscommunity/elements_community/issues/73/fix-hide-show-command-to-work-for-older

All future issues and feature requests should be reported to our issue tracker in the future as stated here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-bugs-suggestions-and-feedback/elements-community-site-issue-tracker/

Thank you for your patience :)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Bugs & Feature Requests)
Post by: antiaverage on February 20, 2017, 04:52:56 PM
I have my reasons for not updating my browser

Please review this list:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: antiaverage on February 20, 2017, 06:55:58 PM
This issue is now resolved, please hard-refresh or clear your cache to get the latest JavaScript file.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: Zyardran on February 21, 2017, 11:27:18 AM
Forgot to post here last night. Note that chat works fine on my windows, it's just my phone (safari [version unknown], iPod Gen 4)
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: antiaverage on February 22, 2017, 04:18:49 AM
Forgot to post here last night. Note that chat works fine on my windows, it's just my phone (safari [version unknown], iPod Gen 4)

on your iPod, open Settings, scroll down to Safari and tap, then scroll down to Clear Cache and tap
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on April 01, 2017, 12:10:40 AM
if you wanna have fun, get in chat now
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on April 01, 2017, 01:08:02 AM
Kuro, get in chat!
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: CactusKing on April 01, 2017, 07:59:21 AM
All the kuros are on
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on May 15, 2017, 04:18:49 PM
Chat and forum are both extremely slow and lagging so much that's its impossible to use them...
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: antiaverage on May 19, 2017, 02:33:46 AM
Chat and forum are both extremely slow and lagging so much that's its impossible to use them...

Yeah, our host moved us to a different server without telling me. The database is going through a long re-optimizing, and it totally sucks. Hopefully things will get better as the scripts clean things up.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: CleanOnion on August 28, 2017, 10:48:41 PM
I just realised that the Elements logo in the top-right is a link to /forum/unread.

I could have saved minutes if I'd known this before.

Minutes.
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: Zyardran on November 27, 2017, 01:18:24 AM
Blab pings don't show for me
Title: Re: Taming the Wild Blab (Chat Software Change Log)
Post by: worldwideweb3 on May 07, 2018, 04:50:12 PM
letter + tab doesnt work anymore
blarg: antiaverage,ddevans96,CleanOnion,Denvis,UTAlan