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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg484112#msg484112
« Reply #168 on: April 20, 2012, 06:30:25 am »
Questions:
- What happen when you fractal or Nightmare a golem?
- If you have the same number of 2 types of shards (e.g. 3 divinity + 3 Freedom) how is the skill selected?
- If you have 2 golem in play (one huge with 6 shards in and a mini with only one). You rewind the mini and then the big, hourglass twice and play the golems back. Will you have the same 2 golems as before or two big or two mini or else?

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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg484117#msg484117
« Reply #169 on: April 20, 2012, 06:42:47 am »
Questions:
- What happen when you fractal or Nightmare a golem?
- If you have the same number of 2 types of shards (e.g. 3 divinity + 3 Freedom) how is the skill selected?
- If you have 2 golem in play (one huge with 6 shards in and a mini with only one). You rewind the mini and then the big, hourglass twice and play the golems back. Will you have the same 2 golems as before or two big or two mini or else?
Fractal golem will summon the last golem assembled. That is, if you have the quanta to do it.
Nightmare Golem will make opponent summon his last assembled golem. If he haven't summon any, it will fail (maybe)
The skill is selected by a certain priority (forgot how, but it's somewhere in this thread)
2 golem and both rewinded and redrawn and replayed. They will both summon the last golem assembled. (if you summon big golem first then small golem, then both will be small golem. And vice versa.)
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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg484123#msg484123
« Reply #170 on: April 20, 2012, 06:57:37 am »
Thanks. So basically you play your first shard of integrity alone. Wait to amass a lot of shard play the second golem then rewind the first. If you play this golem again it will be the big one?

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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg484127#msg484127
« Reply #171 on: April 20, 2012, 07:04:59 am »
Yes. However, in a shard-heavy deck, chance are you will summon the big golem first, then smaller golems due to your starting hand full of shards.

If you can somehow do the mentioned scenario, you will gain big card advantage.
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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg484133#msg484133
« Reply #172 on: April 20, 2012, 07:36:09 am »
What is left to do is a deck that is able to make this scenario happen on a regular basis, then. That's a nice enough challenge ;).

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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg487253#msg487253
« Reply #173 on: April 25, 2012, 04:22:28 pm »
does it matter if the shards are upped for the power of the gollem?
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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg487257#msg487257
« Reply #174 on: April 25, 2012, 04:25:23 pm »
They do.  Upped shards give an additional +1|+1 each as compared to their unupgraded formes.
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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg487262#msg487262
« Reply #175 on: April 25, 2012, 04:28:54 pm »
They do.  Upped shards give and additional +1|+1 each as compared to their unupgraded formes.
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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg521445#msg521445
« Reply #176 on: July 13, 2012, 09:07:06 am »
When you combine the Shard with x3 Shard of Readiness you get the skill Deja-Vu, As mentioned in previous posts, having upgraded cards should feature upgraded skills, when using Deja-Vu, I've noticed the clone isn't airborne whereas the original version does.

If using a upgraded Shard (of readiness say) the stats of the Golem are affected... I also believe if using a Upgraded Shard of Integrity, the skills that Golem possesses should be that of upgraded quality too, so Deja Vu would summon an exact copy, mutation would be improved mutation etc etc.

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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg521448#msg521448
« Reply #177 on: July 13, 2012, 09:13:22 am »
When you combine the Shard with x3 Shard of Readiness you get the skill Deja-Vu, As mentioned in previous posts, having upgraded cards should feature upgraded skills, when using Deja-Vu, I've noticed the clone isn't airborne whereas the original version does.

If using a upgraded Shard (of readiness say) the stats of the Golem are affected... I also believe if using a Upgraded Shard of Integrity, the skills that Golem possesses should be that of upgraded quality too, so Deja Vu would summon an exact copy, mutation would be improved mutation etc etc.

It's a underused deck but it really could make it
1) I have no idea why Deja-Vu did not copy airborne. The skill should do so.
2) Upped shards already provide higher stats as their upgrade bonus. (Even Shard of Integrity)
3) Having the skills also be upgraded would either unbalance the card or require the removal of an existing upgrade bonus. Would you rather upgraded skills or the +X|+X resulting from upgrades?
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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg522495#msg522495
« Reply #178 on: July 16, 2012, 12:49:19 pm »
When you combine the Shard with x3 Shard of Readiness you get the skill Deja-Vu, As mentioned in previous posts, having upgraded cards should feature upgraded skills, when using Deja-Vu, I've noticed the clone isn't airborne whereas the original version does.

If using a upgraded Shard (of readiness say) the stats of the Golem are affected... I also believe if using a Upgraded Shard of Integrity, the skills that Golem possesses should be that of upgraded quality too, so Deja Vu would summon an exact copy, mutation would be improved mutation etc etc.

It's a underused deck but it really could make it
1) I have no idea why Deja-Vu did not copy airborne. The skill should do so.
2) Upped shards already provide higher stats as their upgrade bonus. (Even Shard of Integrity)
3) Having the skills also be upgraded would either unbalance the card or require the removal of an existing upgrade bonus. Would you rather upgraded skills or the +X|+X resulting from upgrades?

Well, i'm 100% certain airborne was not copied, and about unbalancing, I'm not too sure, it's a underpowered deck and rarely used, certain skills would make a very powerful Golem, but you need to draw the shards to make that skill too

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Re: Shard of Integrity | Shard of Integrity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37247.msg522628#msg522628
« Reply #179 on: July 16, 2012, 10:34:04 pm »
1) I have no idea why Deja-Vu did not copy airborne. The skill should do so.

Well, i'm 100% certain airborne was not copied
Sounds like the bug with the Deja Vu card. If a previously webbed Deja Vu uses its skill, its copy will be airborne again. It looks like the engine doesn't duplicate the airborne status and resets it to the standard value for the respective card instead (Deja Vu = airborne, Shard Golem = not airborne). That's certainly not a feature.
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