Iridium Warden | Vanadium Warden

[TheIdioticIdiot]

warden+dolls
disables weapon, and deals damage (extra wardens can be used to delay opponent's creatures)

[petersenk]

Make airborne creatures flat out untargettable to the warden

This. Up to now, what did it matter if a creature was airborne or not? Sure there is one shield that blocks any non-airborne creatures, but that's it. With Wardens in play - plus this as an additional rule - airborne would certainly gain value. Same for the net abillity. And last but not least, it is perfectly intuitive that a warden can not keep an airborne creature in place.

[Essence]

The idea here is that the Warden is guarding you (the player) from one attacking creature.  Creatures on the ground are forced into a brawl with the Warden when they attack, but Airborne creatures can stay out of his reach -- they just also fail to reach you (the player).  That's why the Warden can Delay airborne creatures but can't harm them.

[funerallaughter]

The idea here is that the Warden is guarding you (the player) from one attacking creature.  Creatures on the ground are forced into a brawl with the Warden when they attack, but Airborne creatures can stay out of his reach -- they just also fail to reach you (the player).  That's why the Warden can Delay airborne creatures but can't harm them.

E:tG isn't too far away from a youtube upload of a battle re-enactment or animation, is it? hehehe
Anywho... with the squid's buff and the warden's nerf, it seems to be balanced enough for now

[Avenger]

While it has some interesting combos, does it make sense that your warden can block your own creatures?

[Onizuka]

While it has some interesting combos, does it make sense that your warden can block your own creatures?

If you think of it as the player controlling the warden (which it is), then the player can technically tell him/her/it to defend another monster instead (Perhaps from a shield effect?).

[collimatrix]

The idea here is that the Warden is guarding you (the player) from one attacking creature.  Creatures on the ground are forced into a brawl with the Warden when they attack, but Airborne creatures can stay out of his reach -- they just also fail to reach you (the player).  That's why the Warden can Delay airborne creatures but can't harm them.

I'm sure some lyrical rationalization could be found for the mechanic, but it really would be simpler if it exhibited consistent behavior that could be summed in a sentence.  Does not work on flyers.

[kobisjeruk]

Iridium Warden | Vanadium Warden is comparable to...

  - N/A
  - N/A
  - Parasite/Bloodsucker
  - Virus/Retrovirus
  - duh
  - Maxwell's Demon
  - N/A
  - Otyugh
  - N/A
  - N/A
  - Scarab
  - Squid/Octopus || Toadfish

by comparable i mean creature with CC ability (fire has fire nymph but that is an ultra rare, not comparable at all)
looking at the list, virus is probably the weakest even though the upgraded version is hugely better than some
one can argue scarab is worst because you need another quanta source and either a HP boost OR multiple copy of itself but usually you dont play scarab per se but rather another creature that could generate scarab

from weakest to best (unupgraded), i'd rate them like this :-
virus < scarab < parasite & toadfish < toss up between squid, m.demon & oty

at current version i would rate I/V warden somewhere between (parasite & toadfish) and the trio CC
i would like to see 1 ATK for both unupped and upgraded version of warden and maybe nerfing its HP to 2 and 4 respectively to make it on par with the trio

(i intentionally ignore lobo effect as CC and other nymps)

[YoYoBro]

Neat new card, Zanz's ideas will never cease to surprise me this card's potential is really awesome, its cost is irrisory.. this and blessing maybe? Dunno.. Can't wait to see it in action

[Tea is good]

ooooooh cheap too. Fractal + 23 earth pillars = board lockdown + red nymph for epic pwnage.

[DSSCRA]

The idea here is that the Warden is guarding you (the player) from one attacking creature.  Creatures on the ground are forced into a brawl with the Warden when they attack, but Airborne creatures can stay out of his reach -- they just also fail to reach you (the player).  That's why the Warden can Delay airborne creatures but can't harm them.

I'm sure some lyrical rationalization could be found for the mechanic, but it really would be simpler if it exhibited consistent behavior that could be summed in a sentence.  Does not work on flyers.

How about:


Only delays flyers.

In fact my sentence is shorter than yours.

[QuantumT]

I'm sure some lyrical rationalization could be found for the mechanic, but it really would be simpler if it exhibited consistent behavior that could be summed in a sentence.  Does not work on flyers.

How about:


Only delays flyers.

In fact my sentence is shorter than yours.
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That phrasing isn't ideal, because I'm inclined to think that non airborne creatures won't be delayed.

To shorten his wording, "No effect on flyers."