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Title: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Terroking on January 24, 2010, 03:14:34 am
(http://elementscommunity.org/images/Cards/Antlion.png)(http://elementscommunity.org/images/Cards/Upgrade.png)(http://elementscommunity.org/images/Cards/EliteAntlion.png)
Title: Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion
Post by: KidFresh on August 10, 2010, 01:57:02 am
What A Forgotten card , nobody uses it anymore. I Still See Some Use For Its Upgraded Low cost........Antilion/fractel anyone? 8)
Title: Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion
Post by: binde22 on August 11, 2010, 12:37:18 am
in an upped shrieker rush you can use 3 of these and 3 shriekers since its still cheap and effective
Title: Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion
Post by: jmdt on August 11, 2010, 06:22:10 am
in an upped shrieker rush you can use 3 of these and 3 shriekers since its still cheap and effective
The fastest shrieker rush uses 6 elite antlion, 6 elite graboid, and 3 elite shrieker.  Antlions are a highly underrated card with a nice 2/1 attack to cost ratio.
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: freemod1espilon on April 14, 2012, 10:39:20 pm
This card really needs more love
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 14, 2012, 10:59:27 pm
Time to bump the Buff page, eh?
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: freemod1espilon on April 15, 2012, 07:58:53 pm
Time to bump the Buff page, eh?
yes maybe it should get swarm for it's attack when burrowed
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: furballdn on April 16, 2012, 02:52:02 am
Time to bump the Buff page, eh?
yes maybe it should get swarm for it's attack when burrowed
We don't need untargettable creatures with x^2 attack, especially when there's mitosis and fractal.
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Nepycros on April 16, 2012, 03:50:09 am
Perhaps when burrowed, has a 50% chance to 'spawn' another Antlion in your hand? (breeding)
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Naesala on April 16, 2012, 05:48:41 am
Take buff discussion to buff thread, methinks.
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: freemod1espilon on April 16, 2012, 11:01:47 pm
Take buff discussion to buff thread, methinks.
sorry :-[
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Aaronalln on May 26, 2012, 04:10:33 am
this is probably the most pointless card ever
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: freemod1espilon on May 28, 2012, 03:00:48 pm
That hurts my feelings as a Antlion fanatic
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: ggabriel2 on January 06, 2013, 01:56:14 am
Fun times with antlions: burrowed creatures still get +2 attack per turn from Shards of Patience, which then get doubled when they unburrow. The delaying effect from SoP means their attack strength is irrelevant until you blow your SoP and unburrow, so basically antlions are getting +4/+2 from SoP with no actual drawbacks (other than the :earth activation cost.)

You can do the same thing with shriekers, but SoP strategies benefit from spamming small critters and antlions have an advantage there even compared to evolving graboids (also, graboids cannot manually unburrow and don't carry over modified stats when they evolve, so if you play an antlion it gets 1 extra turn of SoP boost that you wouldn't get if you played a graboid and evolved it. Since 1 extra turn means an extra +4 attack for the antlion, this means the antlion will be hitting almost as hard as the shrieker!)

(As an added bonus, gemfinders and wardens also synergize very, very well with SoP so you can put together a good mix of micro :earth spam.)
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Timmorn on January 22, 2014, 04:24:14 pm
what about an ability like this, let's call it SPROUT as an active ability ability. Basically means that if the antillon manage in doing a successful attack, he gets -0/-1 but in the following turn it can activate sprout, that's to say he can create another antillon with same values, that's to asay 2/2 after the attack. You may choose to not click to activate sprout, but at 0 resistance this creature will die anyway. I leave to you debate on which should be the copst of sprout, maybe 1 :life?

card text:
"When the antillon do a successful attack, it gets 0/-1 and it gains sprout.
  Sprout: create an exact copy of the antillon"

With sprout i mean something different from twin universe, since also special abilities can be duplicated. So to not create confusion having a creature with two different abilities, sprout cost should be 0, automatic after a successful attack.
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Pineapple on January 22, 2014, 05:25:52 pm
what about an ability like this, let's call it SPROUT as an active ability ability. Basically means that if the antillon manage in doing a successful attack, he gets -0/-1 but in the following turn it can activate sprout, that's to say he can create another antillon with same values, that's to asay 2/2 after the attack. You may choose to not click to activate sprout, but at 0 resistance this creature will die anyway. I leave to you debate on which should be the copst of sprout, maybe 1 :life?

card text:
"When the antillon do a successful attack, it gets 0/-1 and it gains sprout.
  Sprout: create an exact copy of the antillon"

With sprout i mean something different from twin universe, since also special abilities can be duplicated. So to not create confusion having a creature with two different abilities, sprout cost should be 0, automatic after a successful attack.


I don't see what this has anything to do with Antlion; it already has an ability, so what justifies removing this ability for a different one? Wouldn't it make more sense to suggest a new card (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/card-ideas-and-art)?

In addition, this thread is not for game suggestions, but for discussion on the exact card currently in the game. If you want to suggest a change to a card in the game, you can use the "Buff (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/buff-this-card!/) [or Nerf (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/nerf-this-card!/)] This Card!" section.

Finally, the game already has three cards similar to what you suggested. See Deja Vu (http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/Deja_Vu), Mitosis (http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/Mitosis), and Malignant Cell (http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/Malignant_Cell).
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: MasterofPun on April 08, 2016, 03:19:19 am
Not gonna lie, this seems like a very weak non-auto-burrowed creature.  While its DPS can be great for an immune creature, its card-per damage ratio seems very weak.
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Manuel on April 08, 2016, 04:09:41 am
Not gonna lie, this seems like a very weak non-auto-burrowed creature.  While its DPS can be great for an immune creature, its card-per damage ratio seems very weak.

O.O

is one of the best cards in the game

unfortunaly i can't spin it from the oracle and make a 40-0 win streak in plat getting only thumbs up

Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on April 10, 2016, 04:53:13 pm
graboids cannot manually unburrow

After all these years, I just recently realized that I have never seen an unburrowed Graboid. How ignorant I am.  :-X
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: tereret on April 10, 2016, 05:16:02 pm
graboids cannot manually unburrow

After all these years, I just recently realized that I have never seen an unburrowed Graboid. How ignorant I am.  :-X
Start using mutation now and you may see one
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: MasterofPun on April 10, 2016, 07:22:53 pm
Not gonna lie, this seems like a very weak non-auto-burrowed creature.  While its DPS can be great for an immune creature, its card-per damage ratio seems very weak.

O.O

is one of the best cards in the game

unfortunaly i can't spin it from the oracle and make a 40-0 win streak in plat getting only thumbs up

Sarcasm? You can buy these in store?
If this is sarcasm - what does it contribute?
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Manuel on April 10, 2016, 08:04:06 pm
Not gonna lie, this seems like a very weak non-auto-burrowed creature.  While its DPS can be great for an immune creature, its card-per damage ratio seems very weak.

O.O

is one of the best cards in the game

unfortunaly i can't spin it from the oracle and make a 40-0 win streak in plat getting only thumbs up

Sarcasm? You can buy these in store?
If this is sarcasm - what does it contribute?

half sarcasm

isn't the best card in the game, but in weekly tournaments with limited/modifed cardpool can be totally viabile, i've seen an antilion rush deck almost outdamaging a fresh recluse/chaos power deck

Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on April 10, 2016, 11:46:13 pm
graboids cannot manually unburrow

After all these years, I just recently realized that I have never seen an unburrowed Graboid. How ignorant I am.  :-X
Start using mutation now and you may see one

And the probability is ....
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: tereret on April 12, 2016, 04:43:39 pm
low, but I've seen one
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on April 12, 2016, 11:56:40 pm
I bet it's not a 2|3 Graboid, though, like the normal one.
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Sera on April 14, 2016, 04:39:14 pm
Graboid's burrow is a passive, so it should still remain burrowed even if it came from a mutation. Like Devourer.
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: iancudorinmarian on April 14, 2016, 04:42:29 pm
Graboid's burrow is a passive, so it should still remain burrowed even if it came from a mutation. Like Devourer.
If your graboid gets "burrow", you can burrow it and then unburrow it. It looks really weird x)
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on April 14, 2016, 05:04:35 pm
Graboid's burrow is a passive, so it should still remain burrowed even if it came from a mutation. Like Devourer.

Huh? Isn't Devourer's burrow an active skill?
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Blacksmith on April 14, 2016, 05:55:25 pm
Not gonna lie, this seems like a very weak non-auto-burrowed creature.  While its DPS can be great for an immune creature, its card-per damage ratio seems very weak.
Actually the upped version is pretty good. The problem with antlion is that it's overshadowed in earth by boids, wardens and golems. If it wouldn't be for the competition most people would play and like ants.
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Sera on April 15, 2016, 02:23:59 am
If your graboid gets "burrow", you can burrow it and then unburrow it. It looks really weird x)
Gotta try more to see one of those, then!
Huh? Isn't Devourer's burrow an active skill?
Devourer as in the passive, which gives even mutated Devourers the ability to steal quanta.
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on April 15, 2016, 04:08:56 am
Huh? Isn't Devourer's burrow an active skill?
Devourer as in the passive, which gives even mutated Devourers the ability to steal quanta.

Oops, sorry. I thought you meant Devourer's burrowing skill. It's making me dizzy, especially since Devourer cannot Devour.
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: CactusKing on February 01, 2017, 06:31:14 am
Fun times with antlions: burrowed creatures still get +2 attack per turn from Shards of Patience, which then get doubled when they unburrow. The delaying effect from SoP means their attack strength is irrelevant until you blow your SoP and unburrow, so basically antlions are getting +4/+2 from SoP with no actual drawbacks (other than the :earth activation cost.)

You can do the same thing with shriekers, but SoP strategies benefit from spamming small critters and antlions have an advantage there even compared to evolving graboids (also, graboids cannot manually unburrow and don't carry over modified stats when they evolve, so if you play an antlion it gets 1 extra turn of SoP boost that you wouldn't get if you played a graboid and evolved it. Since 1 extra turn means an extra +4 attack for the antlion, this means the antlion will be hitting almost as hard as the shrieker!)

(As an added bonus, gemfinders and wardens also synergize very, very well with SoP so you can put together a good mix of micro :earth spam.)
Just realiesd this would be one of the few decks where trident is viable :)
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: ddevans96 on February 01, 2017, 06:58:29 am
Just realiesd this would be one of the few decks where trident is viable :)

Trident/BB is one of Water's strongest shardless decks, plus it's viable in other decks in many metagames, both unupped and upped and both sharded and shardless
Title: Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion
Post by: CactusKing on February 01, 2017, 08:31:39 am
Just realiesd this would be one of the few decks where trident is viable :)

Trident/BB is one of Water's strongest shardless decks, plus it's viable in other decks in many metagames, both unupped and upped and both sharded and shardless

Trident is still the least used weapon in serious pvp and arena decks. It's nice to see new synergies that allow for it to be useful
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