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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2386.msg1230578#msg1230578
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2016, 11:56:40 PM »
I bet it's not a 2|3 Graboid, though, like the normal one.

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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2386.msg1230701#msg1230701
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2016, 04:39:14 PM »
Graboid's burrow is a passive, so it should still remain burrowed even if it came from a mutation. Like Devourer.

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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2386.msg1230702#msg1230702
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2016, 04:42:29 PM »
Graboid's burrow is a passive, so it should still remain burrowed even if it came from a mutation. Like Devourer.
If your graboid gets "burrow", you can burrow it and then unburrow it. It looks really weird x)
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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2386.msg1230705#msg1230705
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2016, 05:04:35 PM »
Graboid's burrow is a passive, so it should still remain burrowed even if it came from a mutation. Like Devourer.

Huh? Isn't Devourer's burrow an active skill?

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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2386.msg1230710#msg1230710
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2016, 05:55:25 PM »
Not gonna lie, this seems like a very weak non-auto-burrowed creature.  While its DPS can be great for an immune creature, its card-per damage ratio seems very weak.
Actually the upped version is pretty good. The problem with antlion is that it's overshadowed in earth by boids, wardens and golems. If it wouldn't be for the competition most people would play and like ants.
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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2386.msg1230750#msg1230750
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2016, 02:23:59 AM »
If your graboid gets "burrow", you can burrow it and then unburrow it. It looks really weird x)
Gotta try more to see one of those, then!
Huh? Isn't Devourer's burrow an active skill?
Devourer as in the passive, which gives even mutated Devourers the ability to steal quanta.

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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2386.msg1230757#msg1230757
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2016, 04:08:56 AM »
Huh? Isn't Devourer's burrow an active skill?
Devourer as in the passive, which gives even mutated Devourers the ability to steal quanta.

Oops, sorry. I thought you meant Devourer's burrowing skill. It's making me dizzy, especially since Devourer cannot Devour.

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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2386.msg1256395#msg1256395
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2017, 06:31:14 AM »
Fun times with antlions: burrowed creatures still get +2 attack per turn from Shards of Patience, which then get doubled when they unburrow. The delaying effect from SoP means their attack strength is irrelevant until you blow your SoP and unburrow, so basically antlions are getting +4/+2 from SoP with no actual drawbacks (other than the :earth activation cost.)

You can do the same thing with shriekers, but SoP strategies benefit from spamming small critters and antlions have an advantage there even compared to evolving graboids (also, graboids cannot manually unburrow and don't carry over modified stats when they evolve, so if you play an antlion it gets 1 extra turn of SoP boost that you wouldn't get if you played a graboid and evolved it. Since 1 extra turn means an extra +4 attack for the antlion, this means the antlion will be hitting almost as hard as the shrieker!)

(As an added bonus, gemfinders and wardens also synergize very, very well with SoP so you can put together a good mix of micro :earth spam.)
Just realiesd this would be one of the few decks where trident is viable :)
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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2386.msg1256396#msg1256396
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2017, 06:58:29 AM »
Just realiesd this would be one of the few decks where trident is viable :)

Trident/BB is one of Water's strongest shardless decks, plus it's viable in other decks in many metagames, both unupped and upped and both sharded and shardless
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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2386.msg1256399#msg1256399
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2017, 08:31:39 AM »
Just realiesd this would be one of the few decks where trident is viable :)

Trident/BB is one of Water's strongest shardless decks, plus it's viable in other decks in many metagames, both unupped and upped and both sharded and shardless

Trident is still the least used weapon in serious pvp and arena decks. It's nice to see new synergies that allow for it to be useful
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