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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089545#msg1089545
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2013, 01:32:27 pm »
This deck looks really interesting.
I'm going to try this after i get enough money to have at least most of it upped.

For the price you are paying shriekers, adding two more you get a stone dragon, which is way more thouger  and bypasses wings.
Protect artifact could improve win rate by not having the shield destroyed or stolen:)

edit; mistaken dragon power
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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089573#msg1089573
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2013, 02:53:06 pm »
Basalt Dragon has the same attack as an Elite Shrieker

But yes, working in Dragons helps vs the nearly auto quit Wings and damage CC. Worse vs Antimatter

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089598#msg1089598
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2013, 04:36:34 pm »
i'm taking a test to see what is better^^

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089606#msg1089606
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2013, 05:12:57 pm »
8 tests
Spoiler for Hidden:
10 would have lost without dragons
lost to wings
!lost no shield, would have won with upped pillars
10 would have lost without dragons
lost shield up but shriekers kept dieing against 2 bloodsuckers, oppenent had dusk.burrowing ineffective
lost aquaofuze. permafrost shield and explosion
!lost but would have won with upped shriekers artic dragon dealt 70 damage
8 two shiekers left in hand no shield

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089722#msg1089722
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2013, 09:38:26 am »
I did a 100 game run with Higurashi's original deck:

W: 80   L: 20   W%: 80.00%   TTW: 8.175   EM: 0/75   EM%: 0%

It does what was advertised.  It outrushes a lot of AI4.  The shield is super fun in how it stops so much at that level.  Quick and easy to play.  I have not worked out how much I made during the test but the money was flying in. ColourlessGreen's description of "it feels like playing AI3" is very accurate.  Not a single EM though...

Decks I lost to in the spoiler:

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Shadcord
Airisa
Shadtis
Aethra
Vittis
Vittis
Mores
Pyriel
Aritis
Dissa
Pyrra
Aquaes
Shaderic
Teres
Vitofuse
Aquarius
Pyreric
Mascord
Distis
Terow
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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089743#msg1089743
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2013, 12:47:23 pm »
This deck looks interesting and I'm gonna try it but first I would like  have some more accurate status when it comes to ai4 upped drop rate.
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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089762#msg1089762
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2013, 03:20:47 pm »
This deck looks interesting and I'm gonna try it but first I would like  have some more accurate status when it comes to ai4 upped drop rate.

7.85% (i.e. one in 12-13 wins) per 700 gameswins recorded here. Incidentally, 22.11% (i.e. one in 4-5 wins) for unupped cards, for a grand total of an average of 104.77 extra electrum from spins per win (if averaged out over enough games).

In addition to the AI4 study, see UEI for some discussion on how those spins translate into overall efficiency.

edit: Incidentally, since there's people testing here, any of you who have more than 50-game-long tests completed are welcomed and encouraged to post them in the AI4 stats thread. Also, if you've been recording results from spins, please feel free to post any 20-win-or-longer results from spins to be included in the spin chance portion of the study.

edit2: Fixed games->wins typo.
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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089779#msg1089779
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2013, 04:19:32 pm »
One upgraded card for every 12 wins is about right from my experience.

I had 8 upped wins in my test of 100.  Slightly below that but close enough.
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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089786#msg1089786
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2013, 05:37:41 pm »
Also take into account that if you don't sell upped cards, they're worth ~1500 instead of ~1000. Farming FGs has resulted in me having mostly Explosion, Feral Bond, Miracle, Morning Glory, etc. Whereas with HBs you can win cards FGs don't even use (yay Elite Skeleton) and the winrate of cards is more well distributed
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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1090427#msg1090427
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2013, 03:12:49 pm »
21tests 18 win 3 losses
TTW 7.23 no EM
435 net gain before spins 20.7 average gain
win rate 0.857

53 tests
0.7924 win rate
6.9 ttw
0 em

32 tests
0.625 win rate
5.125 ttw
0 em rate

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106test
0.754 win rate
6.42 average TTW
0%em rate
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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1090852#msg1090852
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2013, 02:11:22 pm »
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58r 58r 6rk 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 77a 77a 77c 77c 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77h 77h 8ps

44tests TTW;6.52, winning rate;79%
-4 shriekers
+2stone dragon
+2steel golem
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not so different, but seems to be faster

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6rk 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 779 779 77a 77a 77a 77a 77c 77c 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 8ps

179 tests TTW 5.972 winning rate 70.9% EM 0%
raw gain after spins 13.93 :electrum/game
25,3 wins per hour
« Last Edit: August 05, 2013, 10:51:29 pm by Silux »

 

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