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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1084598#msg1084598
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2013, 02:43:58 am »
I finally constructed it's fully upgraded form (An HB was also kind enough to give me a free Stone Tower).

Extremely fast deck, it wins in 5 turns in AI3 (even faster than my AI3 Death deck) and around 8-9 (although I went to 17 turns due to Wings one time) in AI4.

It's weak against Dimensional Shields and Wings (the AI can get tough creatures like Dragons by the time the shields dissolve) and the early dropped Fire Buckler or Thorn Carapace. Quite frustrating (but winnable) to use against Procrastination, Fog Shield and Dusk Mantle. CC can be avoided by burrowing your creatures.

I'll probably test this at the arena soon.

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089144#msg1089144
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2013, 01:39:09 am »
Runs into issues against the Entropy Halfblood (Discord slows down, Antimatter can be combatted with burrow, but then mass CC kills all but your Antimattered Shriekers, Maxwell's...)

I've found swapping a Shrieker for an Auburn Nymph to be effective. I only have one so I can't test whether any more would be bad, but petrification has saved me many times

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089217#msg1089217
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2013, 08:40:29 am »
If someone who's still playing this, or Higs himself, would be kind enough to play some games with it for stats, it could be possible to calculate the UEI and mathematify the gains to compare it to other FG farmers and stuff.
If you want to keep stats, the software can be found here.

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089266#msg1089266
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2013, 04:42:28 pm »
After 14 games numbers aligned:
Winrate   0.857142857142857
Average TTW 8.57142857142857

The stats are stated less than they should be, as TPH is very high for this deck but the spreadsheet doesn't take TPH into account for UEI. This deck's TPH is above 360, closer to 400. This may be offset by the lack of current HP field, since this deck will often outrush AI4 rushes with little life to spare

Anyways, these stats are likely inflated since I never ran into Wings, only ran into Dim Shield once (that's the 10ttw), Antimatter didn't kill me. The losses were to empathic healing and a bad draw against Wardens. This was with the nymph modification, but it never played much of a role in these rather quick games (I did petrify an Amethyst Dragon at one point, the game would've still been won since the only other creature the AI drew was a Lava Golem)

So, with 20 straight forward games: 90% winrate and 8.3ttw. 4834 UEI

Spoiler for Hidden:
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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089267#msg1089267
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2013, 05:01:40 pm »
After 14 games numbers aligned:
Winrate   0.857142857142857
Average TTW 8.57142857142857

The stats are stated less than they should be, as TPH is very high for this deck but the spreadsheet doesn't take TPH into account for UEI. This deck's TPH is above 360, closer to 400. This may be offset by the lack of current HP field, since this deck will often outrush AI4 rushes with little life to spare

Anyways, these stats are likely inflated since I never ran into Wings, only ran into Dim Shield once (that's the 10ttw), Antimatter didn't kill me. The losses were to empathic healing and a bad draw against Wardens. This was with the nymph modification, but it never played much of a role in these rather quick games (I did petrify an Amethyst Dragon at one point, the game would've still been won since the only other creature the AI drew was a Lava Golem)

So, with 20 straight forward games: 90% winrate and 8.3ttw. 4834 UEI

Spoiler for Hidden:
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TBH, it takes that in consideration. There's a slot to write TPH. By default it is 333, but it is editable.
This is for AI4, I guess, right?

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089270#msg1089270
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2013, 05:18:00 pm »
If someone who's still playing this, or Higs himself, would be kind enough to play some games with it for stats, it could be possible to calculate the UEI and mathematify the gains to compare it to other FG farmers and stuff.
If you want to keep stats, the software can be found here.

What level would you like a test for?
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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089271#msg1089271
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2013, 05:19:25 pm »
I loaded StatKeeper in Google docs. When I changed TPH, UEI values didn't change
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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089273#msg1089273
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2013, 05:37:19 pm »
I loaded StatKeeper in Google docs. When I changed TPH, UEI values didn't change
Yes, AI4
Oh, right, thanks for making me notice, that's because when I wrote the spreadsheet I wrote the semplified formula and kept 333 as data.
I'll do a slight change to make it fit (BTW, it'll be a pretty rough one, even though it works, I'll, eventually, fix it with my next update on it). Check back on that topic in 10 minutes and you should find it.

@Bootsza, the deck is meant for AI4, so, if you want to, it should be tested in AI4. Though, TBH, this isn't for me, I just wanted to provide some reliable stats to Higurashi.

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089283#msg1089283
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2013, 06:45:39 pm »
Your Offence is Now Diamonds achieves ~5800UEI if one plays at 400TPH, which isn't difficult with this deck (One could easily follow audiobooks while grinding)

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089370#msg1089370
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2013, 09:57:57 am »
Your Offence is Now Diamonds achieves ~5800UEI if one plays at 400TPH, which isn't difficult with this deck (One could easily follow audiobooks while grinding)
Yeah, that would be the case if I found some nice audiobooks in Italian, lol.

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089407#msg1089407
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2013, 03:33:47 pm »
Regarding tests, a little while back I did 100 games with this in AI4. 75 wins, 25 losses, 8.09 TTW, 2 EMs. UEI was a bit over 4k (with 333 TPH) according to where UEI was when I did the preview formula results early on in the thread (though it's only changed very slightly since then).

Great deck. Feels pretty much just like playing AI3.

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Re: Your Offence Is Now Diamonds [AI4] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49723.msg1089414#msg1089414
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2013, 04:27:03 pm »
With CG's Stats accounting 400 as TPH, the UEI appears to be 4878,8613503491 E/H, which means that the deck will repay itself in 9,4233052958 Hours of play.

 

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