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AI3 farming deck - no graboids - https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33201.msg418925#msg418925
« on: November 01, 2011, 09:09:51 am »
I started today a test on earth element, 100 % mono deck, so avoiding the graboid/shrieker rush.

Here is my deck:

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At 500 score I took the Pulverizer and tried to blend it in.
Results and conclusions are like this:

1. As mono deck, at worst times I get only 2 pillars at start and quite often an earthquake. Depending on how many pillars the opponent gets from start I can partially or completly annoy him by cutting off his resources. As dual (changing mark to gravity and adding pulverizer) I was many times in the case of getting 2 pillars, using the earthquake in round 3, loosing like that not only the cut-off on the opponent but also not beeing able to discard creatures due to low resources.

2. The advantage I personally think this deck brings is eliminating for a certain degree the shields problem. You will say that involving Pulverizer would do it better. Well, atm since I have only one I refuse to use it since is completely unreliable.

Now, comparing with Shrieker/Graboid rush, I tried it and when I was against shields (specially Dimension Shield) you are totally dead. If opponent gets two in a row is a loss already. Well, with this deck you get a chance to survive. Due to the high quanta generation and the Stone Skin, you can survive and even win, depending how late you can use those.

Current score is 163 wins, 21 losses, so over 88% win rate. Also note that smart use of stone skin can win you extra income, since the max electrum wining looks like this for AI3:

- 99 hit points - 20 electrum
-100 HP - 40 electrum (full HP makes it double)

What happens with stone skin is that if you end with more then 100HP (even if not full HP) you get awarded with extra electrum, like 1 electum extra for each 10 extra HP over 100. For example having 158 HP left will get you 25 electrum if not full HP, or 50 as full HP.

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Re: AI3 farming deck - no graboids - https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33201.msg418956#msg418956
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 01:03:24 pm »
Short sword>pulvy in your deck.Also try to mix 1 or 2 golems instead of EQ's.
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Re: AI3 farming deck - no graboids - https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33201.msg419303#msg419303
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 06:53:02 am »
I start to wonder, where do you see the pulvi in my deck ?

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Re: AI3 farming deck - no graboids - https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33201.msg419335#msg419335
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 07:43:40 am »
Sorry man but this doesnt look fast enough.

The key thing to consider when building a lvl 3 grinder is speed, due to how easy they are it makes little diference if you have a really powerful deck and a decent deck as either will win almost all of the time, therefore you want speed.

If dim shields are a problem why not try an immo rush? Even with the recent nerf theyre probably still fast, and of course they have deflag to stop shields
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Re: AI3 farming deck - no graboids - https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33201.msg419354#msg419354
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 09:44:41 am »
Not going for a fire rush exactly because I choose to play earth, and post it as mono deck, so trying find a good reliable earth deck.

But you have a valid point, mono earth is not a good rush deck.

Still, I never said it is a rush deck.

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Re: AI3 farming deck - no graboids - https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33201.msg419362#msg419362
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 10:22:12 am »
Just wondering what is your reasoning to create an earth rush without graboids? they are much more cost effective.
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Re: AI3 farming deck - no graboids - https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33201.msg419377#msg419377
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 11:40:22 am »
Just wondering what is your reasoning to create an earth rush without graboids? they are much more cost effective.
Where at all did he say he was making a rush deck.... Topic Title is AI3 farming deck - no graboids -
Quote from OP below.
Not going for a fire rush exactly because I choose to play earth, and post it as mono deck, so trying find a good reliable earth deck.

But you have a valid point, mono earth is not a good rush deck.

Still, I never said it is a rush deck.
Never said he was making this as a rush deck. Read before posting silly things.

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Re: AI3 farming deck - no graboids - https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33201.msg419542#msg419542
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 08:23:53 pm »
Just wondering what is your reasoning to create an earth rush without graboids? they are much more cost effective.
Where at all did he say he was making a rush deck.... Topic Title is AI3 farming deck - no graboids -
Quote from OP below.
Not going for a fire rush exactly because I choose to play earth, and post it as mono deck, so trying find a good reliable earth deck.

But you have a valid point, mono earth is not a good rush deck.

Still, I never said it is a rush deck.
Never said he was making this as a rush deck. Read before posting silly things.
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Lol well if it isnt a rush deck what is it? a control deck? with what CC? a denial deck? yea it has EQ but so does a grabboid rush it certainly isnt a stall. so yea i would classify this deck as a rush.

If you would like me to rephrase that fine

"Just wondering what is your reasoning to create an earth deck without graboids? they are much more cost effective."

It isnt demanding anything and it isnt offensive, It is simply curiosity.

Maybe you should think twice before you hit the post button
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Re: AI3 farming deck - no graboids - https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33201.msg419751#msg419751
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 06:48:22 am »
Not going for a fire rush exactly because I choose to play earth, and post it as mono deck, so trying find a good reliable earth deck.

But you have a valid point, mono earth is not a good rush deck.

Still, I never said it is a rush deck.
I understand this, I was merely pointing out that AI3 grinders need to be rushes for efficiency.
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