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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1111399#msg1111399
« Reply #168 on: November 23, 2013, 08:29:20 pm »
Slow damage shouldn't be an issue as long as you have quanta to bounce the Frog infinitely. PA Towers first and foremost!

This worked great (no quanta problems this time) - thanks for the tip Higs!  I get that the purify is for the Physalia, but I rarely see it in most of the games I've played.  What do you think about packing a Heal instead of a purify for the EM (as usually Discord hits through the Jade shield to take you just below 100)?  And Fire storm could take out the Physalias (Physalie?) if/when they come.
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1111503#msg1111503
« Reply #169 on: November 24, 2013, 04:39:56 am »
In the updated version, I changed a couple cards for Black Holes. They heal more than Heals and deny Cream Catcher quanta too :>
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1114755#msg1114755
« Reply #170 on: December 12, 2013, 09:32:32 am »
ehh, I mindlessly copied the updated version.
To find that the leaf dragon has been replaced with a frog. Why?
You will only be able to deal damage with it the last turn, since it could be lightning'ed otherwise.

Edit: firestorm could be replaced with thunderstorm.
It may save you, if you happen to need it early (and DC is denying you).
DC has no creatures with 3 hp, unless his fate egg hatches into one. If that happens, a firestorm would be better.
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be quick- time is quanta.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1116341#msg1116341
« Reply #171 on: December 19, 2013, 07:14:45 pm »
Frog is just for more damage final turn, yes. The reason for the change was actually me accidentally packing Jade Dragon once and winning faster thanks to it. I realized there's no reason not to pack a Frog.

Firestorm can be replaced with Thunderstorm. I haven't because Physalia poison damage is very slow so I'd rather keep Firestorm in case he Eggs an Elite Wyrm or similar.
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1119169#msg1119169
« Reply #172 on: January 04, 2014, 07:02:52 pm »
Took 17 minutes, but Higu's deck (with some stuff unupped) got an EM for me.
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1122269#msg1122269
« Reply #173 on: January 20, 2014, 10:53:15 pm »
Came up with this:

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This deck makes good of DC's rainbow quanta. More pillars than you think you need because of all of DC's quanta control (In my opinion, the worst is the BE's.)

EDIT: Dune scorp version

Used the above, worked like a charm.  If I'd kept one BH till the end would have EM'd him.  He was at 30 poison on his last turn.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1126144#msg1126144
« Reply #174 on: February 14, 2014, 09:48:03 pm »
I think 500 hp em decks are worth a try (2 downsides: relies heavily on getting 3 PAs+ shield+ sanct early and has difficulty decking out the opponent); however if they work they grant  you a lot of money.
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1185763#msg1185763
« Reply #175 on: April 10, 2015, 10:16:12 pm »
I used a mono-aether with some upped dim shields and pillars with an early lobotomizer. Dream Catcher only played Micro Abominations and slowed me down a bit with discord. It was fairly easy.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1258657#msg1258657
« Reply #176 on: March 07, 2017, 06:23:50 pm »
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3/0 with this, pretty much a mix with the higs' deck and the unupped counter

should be a little bit faster since it can kill dc a little more easier, and if u are unlucky u can always rt forever the scorpion (even with "only" 3 time pillars, u will have something like 50+  :time quanta when u will need to rewind and play the scorpion)
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1258943#msg1258943
« Reply #177 on: March 08, 2017, 08:23:01 am »
One improvement is to replace unstoppables with cp.
Dream Catcher doesn't have a shield, so it deals slightly more damage and is lighter on the quanta.
Especially the last part can matter, since you only have 8 qtowers and dream catcher has a fair amount of quanta control.
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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1270856#msg1270856
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Use this deck in the op today. But after a little bit tests in the trainer, I only get 20% win rate (2/10). I was always denied by early quick sand, BH, discord and BE and couldn't get the proper card to survive or played dune scorpion too late.

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Re: Oracle : Dream Catcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9594.msg1270870#msg1270870
« Reply #179 on: November 08, 2017, 08:38:52 pm »
first turn quicksand is gg for almost any non vdb counter (unless u aren't lucky enough to generate the quanta for pa)
for black hole play snova only when u can use the quanta for multiple things, like a scorpion + tbolt +cp
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