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Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251005#msg1251005
« on: November 08, 2016, 03:12:36 pm »
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For each match, two elements will be randomized.  Players must use these two elements as the marks of their game 1 and game 2 decks, in either order.  Additionally, an event card rule will modify each round's rules.  Both of these will be revealed throughout the event.

The following rules also apply to all rounds' decks, unless an event card supercedes them:
You must use an even number of copies of every card in your deck, though nymphs and their corresponding alchemy cards will be considered to be the same card for the purposes of this rule.
The number of elements present in your deck, including Other, must be an even number of elements.  An element is present if any card from that element is present, INCLUDING THE MARK OF YOUR DECK.
There must be an even number of unique cards in each deck, though nymphs and their corresponding alchemy cards will be considered to be the same card for the purposes of this rule.
Players may use 3 upgrades in game 1 of a match, 6 upgrades in game 2, and 12 upgrades in game 3.

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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251006#msg1251006
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2016, 03:12:55 pm »
 :aether :gravity ji412jo vs. Klatu
 :entropy :time asdw152 vs. Manuel
 :time :death Ryli vs. TheonlyrealBeef
 :aether :fire Zerrid vs. Basman-1453
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 :water :aether Manuel vs. asdw152
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 :aether :life kirbylover314 vs. Aves
 :aether :death fabian771 vs. godisnowonline (No match, fabian withdrew)
 :aether :fire killsdazombies vs. rob77dp
 :darkness :death Ryli vs. Regyptic
 :water :gravity Zerrid vs. Klatu
 :earth :gravity Discord vs. killsdazombies
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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251010#msg1251010
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2016, 03:27:46 pm »
-/ I seem to remember that Mirror Shields have numbers on its description, yet Reflective Shields don't. Will they be banned or not?

-/ Flooding/Inundation doesn't seem to have any numbers in their description. How come they're banned?
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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251014#msg1251014
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2016, 03:36:30 pm »
-/ I seem to remember that Mirror Shields have numbers on its description, yet Reflective Shields don't. Will they be banned or not?

-/ Flooding/Inundation doesn't seem to have any numbers in their description. How come they're banned?

It's my policy to not ban only the unupped or upped version of a card, so I will not be banning mirror shield.  Flooding was an error and has been removed from the ban list (I thought the words 5 slots were on the card, but they are not).
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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251021#msg1251021
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2016, 04:38:47 pm »
Matchups and elements posted.

The Bracket is available at this link

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It can be viewed here as well

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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251033#msg1251033
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2016, 06:00:06 pm »
I probably should have been wondering this all along, but I have a question about the rules...

There must be an even number of unique cards in each deck, though nymphs and their corresponding alchemy cards will be considered to be the same card for the purposes of this rule.

Does this mean even number of different unique cards or even number of total count of unique cards? That is, would be following deck be legal or illegal ONLY CONSIDERING this unique card rule?

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There is only one (not an even number) TYPE of unique card (Mark of Death) but there are two (an even number) TOTAL COUNT of unique cards (2x Mark of Death)... ...?
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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251035#msg1251035
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2016, 06:20:36 pm »
I probably should have been wondering this all along, but I have a question about the rules...

There must be an even number of unique cards in each deck, though nymphs and their corresponding alchemy cards will be considered to be the same card for the purposes of this rule.

Does this mean even number of different unique cards or even number of total count of unique cards? That is, would be following deck be legal or illegal ONLY CONSIDERING this unique card rule?

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There is only one (not an even number) TYPE of unique card (Mark of Death) but there are two (an even number) TOTAL COUNT of unique cards (2x Mark of Death)... ...?

I think I was having a dumb here...

Unique cards is not referring to rare/ultra-rare/etc but rather unique meaning "individual card choices" i.e. this deck is legal due to QP = 1 and Mark of Death = 1; 1+1 = 2 unique cards in deck and 2 is even.
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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251043#msg1251043
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2016, 07:02:01 pm »
I probably should have been wondering this all along, but I have a question about the rules...

There must be an even number of unique cards in each deck, though nymphs and their corresponding alchemy cards will be considered to be the same card for the purposes of this rule.

Does this mean even number of different unique cards or even number of total count of unique cards? That is, would be following deck be legal or illegal ONLY CONSIDERING this unique card rule?

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sk 4sk 8pk


There is only one (not an even number) TYPE of unique card (Mark of Death) but there are two (an even number) TOTAL COUNT of unique cards (2x Mark of Death)... ...?

I think I was having a dumb here...

Unique cards is not referring to rare/ultra-rare/etc but rather unique meaning "individual card choices" i.e. this deck is legal due to QP = 1 and Mark of Death = 1; 1+1 = 2 unique cards in deck and 2 is even.
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Confirming that the second understanding is correct.
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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251061#msg1251061
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2016, 09:49:53 pm »
Boneyard, Shield, Empathic Bond and Procrastination all have numbers on them and should be banned as well, correct? Hope shows N, N + 1 upgraded. N represents a number but isn't a number. Allowed?

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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251080#msg1251080
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2016, 12:41:43 am »
Boneyard, Shield, Empathic Bond and Procrastination all have numbers on them and should be banned as well, correct? Hope shows N, N + 1 upgraded. N represents a number but isn't a number. Allowed?

Hope is allowed. 

The other four cards you name have been added to the banlist as appropriate.
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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251105#msg1251105
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2016, 03:43:34 pm »
Matches updated, still waiting for word from mrpaper and Zerrid, but all other matches from this round can go ahead and start!
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Re: Double Double Double Double - Lower Bracket Round 1 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63591.msg1251143#msg1251143
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2016, 05:29:05 am »
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Won by damage... bit of a mismatch given deck choices (late desync had my winning both sides).

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Superb start winning coin toss and emptying hand before Luna got to play -- had 2x growing Golems and 1x Phoenix on the board by Turn 2 to overwhelm in 7 ttw. Late desync again ended win-win my favor.

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