Special Rare Cards

[Jyiber]

I think you guys are misunderstanding.  Changing existing nonrares into rares is detrimental; it disadvantages those who didn't start when they were easy to get.  We aren't trying to make phoenix or dimensional shield into rares, we're discussing NEW rares.

I agree.

[grimdragon64]

I've been thinking of a healing spell for Air. I dunno, something like this maybe?

[antiaverage]

My SoFr Cremarush would love a heal for EM <3

[grimdragon64]

Do you think my Desperate Sacrifice could be a rare card (if it is ever successful)?

[foofatron]

Not exactly a "rare" card, but I think all elements should have expensive and powerful spells like fractal, super spells or alignment spells. They would be the signature spell of each elements, and all have the quanta draining clause.

[timetock]

Not exactly a "rare" card, but I think all elements should have expensive and powerful spells like fractal, super spells or alignment spells. They would be the signature spell of each elements, and all have the quanta draining clause.

ew. Each element having its own quanta draining clause? Why does everyone like high-cost cards that win the game for you. Seriously, that's just stupid. It just prevents the development of new strategies.

[foofatron]

Is miracle a game winning card? They don't have to "hand" you the win, and why should only some elements have powerful spells?

For example water's could be Flash Freeze, no other spells can be used until the end of your 3rd turn, and until your next turn only water monsters can attack. Protects against spells, and is not chainable.

Helps shard of patience, squid, Physalia, even the shield if you played it before so it doesn't get destroyed right away.

[timetock]

I would consider cards by a card-by-card basis, not by element. Sure, each element has a nymph and an alchemy card, but that's just a thematic use, and besides some alchemy cards are used a lot more than others due to viability. Having a big flashy card for each element sounds cool but again, it would be hard (aka a pain in the ass) to balance and is still kinda broken. Miracle is fine because it's not abusable, really, Miracle is only useful as a desperate measure or to secure an EM win. Fractal isn't abusable  as you still need to pay the cost to use the creatures you added to your hand. Something like your "flash freeze" would easily hand you the win, give no room for counterplay - it even counters ITSELF. A card like this would easily have a cost of 15 , and that would make it impossible to use unless you were running mono for maximum quanta gain to use this card as fast and as much as possible. Sorry, won't vote for that sort of card that limits the possibilities of the meta.

[foofatron]

If you don't have a problem with the current ones, why would oppose new additions to the category?

How would it "easily" hand you the win? Your opponent can't play spells for two turns, yay... Your opponent also gets first dibs on casting spells after the fact. What would that really counter?

[timetock]

Spells are much needed in almost every deck. Some clutch spells like AE, Mitosis, Adren, BB, GP, SoSac, SoB, Immo ..... the list goes on and on. Not to mention the insta 1 turn all-creature freeze. Just pack a whole deck with congeals, abyss crawlers, and use this to stop all the spells and tada, a nearly unbeatable deck. Need an all permanent deck to beat this card, but 5 deflags and a mark should solve anything troublesome like unstable gas or fahrenheit.

[foofatron]

With the exception of SoSac, I'm pretty sure you will draw and use all of those before this... To address a few: SoB and Immolation probably would be used a lot before this ever went off. Adrenaline is faster and pretty much nullifies freeze.

Swallow uses SoF + Oty, Poison dial would be able to use it's poison before + sundial, SoF rush nothing. Pestial can't use fractal, but they probably prevented you from reaching the high limit before they fractal'd anyway.

It could hurt mitosis and rainbow decks, but it's far from unbeatable. If this card would ever cause you to win, the game was already close and it didn't "hand" you the game.

[Captain Scibra]

I think you guys are misunderstanding.  Changing existing nonrares into rares is detrimental; it disadvantages those who didn't start when they were easy to get.  We aren't trying to make phoenix or dimensional shield into rares, we're discussing NEW rares.

Didn't mean to lose focus of this thread, but there is a solution: relics!  Seriously, replace the nonrare with an elemental relic of the same value.  Then reinstate the card as a rare under a different card code.  This has been done before, except before, the old cards simply transmuted into the new ones.  However, there are no intentions of transmutations since this is a rarity upgrade, not a true rebalance of any sort.