Post by: GravnEarthForever on August 24, 2016, 11:03:13 pm
Mark is Grav, btw
-put new image of my current rares and deck in reply below
Post by: Mr Muffin on August 25, 2016, 12:50:16 am
Post by: Manuel on August 25, 2016, 04:06:18 am
keep in mind that fg draw 2 cards/turn with a x3 mark, u can't think to use your favourite deck
even with the fix, the deck is still pretty terrible, running a duo only for pc (u have sofo over pulvy) and golem (a vanilla creature that doesn't make nothing) makes no sense; a mono gravity is a lot better against ai4, same for a mono earth with graboids and time mark.
never use two kind of pillars in a duo, running a mark and pillars and pends of the other element let u have both :earth :gravity in any moment
if u wanna farm fg with a gravy deck: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/duo-decks/swallow-(patient-otyugh)(pulled-sofo)(platinum)/
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on September 21, 2016, 04:11:22 am
Instead of your pillars split like that you should use all pendulums. I don't currently have any other ideas on how to improve the deck other then maybe slimming it.
What if he split the pillars to minimize the pillar loss when opponent is using Earthquake or Trident?
Post by: Mr Muffin on September 21, 2016, 04:21:21 am
Quote from: Monox D. I-Fly
Quote from: Mr MuffinInstead of your pillars split like that you should use all pendulums. I don't currently have any other ideas on how to improve the deck other then maybe slimming it.What if he split the pillars to minimize the pillar loss when opponent is using Earthquake or Trident?
I doubt earthquake and trident are used enough to make the earthquake protection be worth the decreased reliability of using two types of pillars instead of pendulums.
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on September 21, 2016, 06:07:57 am
Quote from: Monox D. I-FlyQuote from: Mr MuffinInstead of your pillars split like that you should use all pendulums. I don't currently have any other ideas on how to improve the deck other then maybe slimming it.What if he split the pillars to minimize the pillar loss when opponent is using Earthquake or Trident?
I doubt earthquake and trident are used enough to make the earthquake protection be worth the decreased reliability of using two types of pillars instead of pendulums.
Well, Trident's usage is repeatable, so...
Post by: Mr Muffin on September 21, 2016, 06:06:18 pm
Quote from: Monox D. I-Fly
Well, Trident's usage is repeatable, so...
Trident being repeatable means using two types of pillars won't get you much more protection. Take into account trident is, in my opinion, used quite rarely.
Post by: Espithel on September 21, 2016, 09:16:52 pm
Don't do a pure pend split. Manuel's deck is a good start but not optimal.
The issue with a pure pend split is you have to wait until turn 3 to cast spells of your mark. Upped games take around 7ish turns to complete, and unupped ones take around 11ish. That means that for half/quarter of your game, you can't use half your deck.
With mostly pends and a few pillars, you can sometimes/usually cast some of those spells t2, which is a huge speed advantage.
You don't want to use a pure pillar split due to inconsistency, either.
In the case of manuel's deck, I'd actually see if I could use graviton mercenaries instead of steel golems - that allows turn 1 damage and helps the casting of titanium and pulvy.
Post by: GravnEarthForever on September 22, 2016, 12:50:57 am
here are my rares (not in deck)~
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on September 23, 2016, 03:08:04 am
To settle this argument:
Don't do a pure pend split. Manuel's deck is a good start but not optimal.
What do you mean by a pure split? Is it putting both pillars of the duo?
If it were me, I would put some Gravity Pillars, some Earth Pillars, some Gravity Pendulums, some Earth Pendulums, as well as their upgraded versions so that I have 8 slots for my quanta sources.
Post by: GravnEarthForever on September 23, 2016, 09:44:40 pm
To settle this argument:
Don't do a pure pend split. Manuel's deck is a good start but not optimal.
What do you mean by a pure split? Is it putting both pillars of the duo?
If it were me, I would put some Gravity Pillars, some Earth Pillars, some Gravity Pendulums, some Earth Pendulums, as well as their upgraded versions so that I have 8 slots for my quanta sources.
nah, i'd rather just keep using grav and earth pillars with earth pendulums, its mostly for earthquakes and for any a.i.'s to use their steals and explosions on.