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Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1242464#msg1242464
« on: August 24, 2016, 11:03:13 PM »
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    This deck is mostly used for arena, and i think its strong overall, but when battling rushers and lv4 ai and false gods, i noticed that i had little creature control built into my deck, and my elite chargers were always getting parodoxed. I want to hear any thoughts on how to improve my decks versatility and any other ideas you may have. I want to keep my deck grav/earth, with rather low quanta costs. Help is extremely appreciated!!


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Re: Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1242501#msg1242501
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2016, 12:50:16 AM »
Instead of your pillars split like that you should use all pendulums. I don't currently have any other ideas on how to improve the deck other then maybe slimming it.

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Re: Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1242522#msg1242522
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2016, 04:06:18 AM »
u can't use this deck against fg, there is no way it can work

keep in mind that fg draw 2 cards/turn with a x3 mark, u can't think to use your favourite deck

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even with the fix, the deck is still pretty terrible, running a duo only for pc (u have sofo over pulvy) and golem (a vanilla creature that doesn't make nothing) makes no sense; a mono gravity is a lot better against ai4, same for a mono earth with graboids and time mark.

never use two kind of pillars in a duo, running a mark and pillars and pends of the other element let u have both  :earth :gravity in any moment

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Re: Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1245867#msg1245867
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2016, 04:11:22 AM »
Instead of your pillars split like that you should use all pendulums. I don't currently have any other ideas on how to improve the deck other then maybe slimming it.

What if he split the pillars to minimize the pillar loss when opponent is using Earthquake or Trident?

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Re: Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1245869#msg1245869
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2016, 04:21:21 AM »
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Instead of your pillars split like that you should use all pendulums. I don't currently have any other ideas on how to improve the deck other then maybe slimming it.
What if he split the pillars to minimize the pillar loss when opponent is using Earthquake or Trident?

I doubt earthquake and trident are used enough to make the earthquake protection be worth the decreased reliability of using two types of pillars instead of pendulums.

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Re: Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1245876#msg1245876
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2016, 06:07:57 AM »
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Instead of your pillars split like that you should use all pendulums. I don't currently have any other ideas on how to improve the deck other then maybe slimming it.
What if he split the pillars to minimize the pillar loss when opponent is using Earthquake or Trident?

I doubt earthquake and trident are used enough to make the earthquake protection be worth the decreased reliability of using two types of pillars instead of pendulums.

Well, Trident's usage is repeatable, so...

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Re: Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1246013#msg1246013
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2016, 06:06:18 PM »
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Well, Trident's usage is repeatable, so...

Trident being repeatable means using two types of pillars won't get you much more protection. Take into account trident is, in my opinion, used quite rarely.

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Re: Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1246064#msg1246064
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2016, 09:16:52 PM »
To settle this argument:

Don't do a pure pend split. Manuel's deck is a good start but not optimal.

The issue with a pure pend split is you have to wait until turn 3 to cast spells of your mark. Upped games take around 7ish turns to complete, and unupped ones take around 11ish. That means that for half/quarter of your game, you can't use half your deck.

With mostly pends and a few pillars, you can sometimes/usually cast some of those spells t2, which is a huge speed advantage.

You don't want to use a pure pillar split due to inconsistency, either.

In the case of manuel's deck, I'd actually see if I could use graviton mercenaries instead of steel golems - that allows turn 1 damage and helps the casting of titanium and pulvy.
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Re: Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1246112#msg1246112
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2016, 12:50:57 AM »
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Re: Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1246374#msg1246374
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2016, 03:08:04 AM »
To settle this argument:

Don't do a pure pend split. Manuel's deck is a good start but not optimal.

What do you mean by a pure split? Is it putting both pillars of the duo?
If it were me, I would put some Gravity Pillars, some Earth Pillars, some Gravity Pendulums, some Earth Pendulums, as well as their upgraded versions so that I have 8 slots for my quanta sources.

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Re: Seeking advise to improve Grav/Earth deck for Arena and Gods cc http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62811.msg1246508#msg1246508
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2016, 09:44:40 PM »
To settle this argument:

Don't do a pure pend split. Manuel's deck is a good start but not optimal.

What do you mean by a pure split? Is it putting both pillars of the duo?
If it were me, I would put some Gravity Pillars, some Earth Pillars, some Gravity Pendulums, some Earth Pendulums, as well as their upgraded versions so that I have 8 slots for my quanta sources.

nah, i'd rather just keep using grav and earth pillars with earth pendulums, its mostly for earthquakes and for any a.i.'s to use their steals and explosions on.
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