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Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg449989#msg449989
« on: January 17, 2012, 10:30:07 pm »
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Hi everyone :)

This is my first ragequit deck? (not sure what exactly they are about :P)
That's why I first wanted to see if I got the idea right and how it can be improved :)
Well, the idea is NOT to use epi on Micro Abominations (of course you can if there's no shield or sort of CC or a faster/stronger enemy in front of you)
Epi is used on the antimattered enemie's creatures to give you even more heal.
I guess the quanta balance is still not perfect but for now it works.

I was thinking to take out the abominations and replace them with shard of gratitude. Or i could make it a 40 card deck
adding 5/6 SoG (and use micro abo).

I think, weaknesses are especially early PC, growth creatures, many weak creatures (a thorn carpace may help here), pestal decks (?) and poison.
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Re: Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg449995#msg449995
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 10:45:37 pm »
Ragequit is about making your opponent quit the game because he can't win.

I think you don't need that much micro abom, 4 should be fine, it's enough because you need only one to play BE on it.
Then SoD seems out of place here, I'd prefer SoG in this deck with a mark of life and thorn carapace looks to be perfect in the deck : it kills immortal creature and all those you can't AM.
These decks looks actually pretty good !
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Re: Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg450003#msg450003
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 11:06:05 pm »
According to your suggestions, this is the new deck  :)
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I haven't tested it yet, but I guess it does fine  :D
Sadly I don't have all this cards to actually test it in PvP, so I will try it as a deckout deck in trainer.

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Re: Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg450047#msg450047
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 01:06:21 am »
SoGs are probably better than SoDs since you're using a :life mark.

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Re: Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg450141#msg450141
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 08:07:42 am »
SoGs are probably better than SoDs since you're using a :life mark.
I agree  :) I posted a version in the post before you. What do you think about it?
I'm not sure if a 40 card deck is better, adding 5 SoD, also it may become quanta starved.
I'd like to have both shards in because more HP gives more coins. :)
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Re: Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg450145#msg450145
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 08:31:05 am »
I would switch 2 antimatter for 2 purple nymph if you can. They'd give you nice impactors coupled with adrenaline and an annoying defence against SoSac.

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Re: Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg450149#msg450149
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 09:46:03 am »
I would switch 2 antimatter for 2 purple nymph if you can. They'd give you nice impactors coupled with adrenaline and an annoying defence against SoSac.
Yes, that may be a good idea, though having the disadvantage that they might be dead before I can use their skill.
But I wouldn't use them to attack, as the idea is a ragequit deck. That's why adrenaline is meant to be used on the enemie's creatures :)
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Re: Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg450678#msg450678
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 02:48:49 am »
Do you think this version of the deck is ready to be posted in the Duo Section? (if so, I'd delete this thread)
Actually, I'm happy with the way it works now and want to thank to all of you one more time for your help :)

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Re: Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg451918#msg451918
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2012, 05:13:00 pm »
***TRIALS RESPONSE***

It seems like you have some pretty good ideas:Improved Antimatter + Epinephrine can get you good healing.
But it seems you have some useless cards, as in:
    Butterfly Effect: I know it can help you to get past Eternity and other weapons, but it isn't needed at all.Micro Abdomination: It only works with Butterfly Effect and it's a really poor damage source.
As in, now you have only 1 winning condition, which isn't enough in a non-restricted meta (This phrase just made me to laugh out loud), switching all those Micro Abdominations and Butterfly Effects in 2 Maxwell's Demon and 4 dragons will give you an Quantum Index of 8.1, not that bad for a stall (In Essence), but because I want to make all at perfection The 1 Maxwell's Demon, 2 Fallen Druids and 4 Micro Abdominations (-1 Tower) gives you an Quantum Index of 5.48 which is much much better, and offers a good offense too.

But as in now, the Maxwell's Demon, the Shards of Gratitude and the Improved Antimatters already give you a good defense, so 6 Epinephrines are unneeded.I would remove 2 and replace those with 2 Micro Abdominations. With this move you can change 2 Entropy Pendulums into Amethyst Towers, giving you an Quantum Index of 5.18, which is indeed, very good.

The last step should be switching 1 Thorn Carapace to a Jade Shield and upgrading the last two.

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Re: Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg452135#msg452135
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 01:21:41 am »
***TRIALS RESPONSE***

It seems like you have some pretty good ideas:Improved Antimatter + Epinephrine can get you good healing.
But it seems you have some useless cards, as in:
    Butterfly Effect: I know it can help you to get past Eternity and other weapons, but it isn't needed at all.Micro Abdomination: It only works with Butterfly Effect and it's a really poor damage source.
As in, now you have only 1 winning condition, which isn't enough in a non-restricted meta (This phrase just made me to laugh out loud), switching all those Micro Abdominations and Butterfly Effects in 2 Maxwell's Demon and 4 dragons will give you an Quantum Index of 8.1, not that bad for a stall (In Essence), but because I want to make all at perfection The 1 Maxwell's Demon, 2 Fallen Druids and 4 Micro Abdominations (-1 Tower) gives you an Quantum Index of 5.48 which is much much better, and offers a good offense too.

But as in now, the Maxwell's Demon, the Shards of Gratitude, the   and the Improved Antimatters already give you a good defense, so 6 Epinephrines are unneeded.I would remove 2 and replace those with 2 Micro Abdominations. With this move you can change 2 Entropy Pendulums into Amethyst Towers, giving you an Quantum Index of 5.18, which is indeed, very good.

The last step should be switching 1 Thorn Carapace to a Jade Shield and upgrading the last two.

With all those changes, the deck should look like this:

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Another "trials response" ??  Amazing!  :o
Before anything, I also want to thank you for your answer! I really enjoy the people here giving their best trying (with success) to help each other. That's just great!  :D

I'm just speechless when I see what you made of my deck. Also your explanation of what you changed and why is very very good.
I always appreciate this because it helps me to learn better of it. :)
I guess I really should read once this QI study  :-[

To the deck: I tried it a lot and it worked fantastic!  ;)
It was great fun to mess around with my mutations while the opponent wasn't able to surpass my healing.
Also I sometimes made his creatures stronger to improve the efficiency of antimatter.
I'm so much looking forward now to build this deck and try it in PvP  :D

I really thank you for the time you spent to improve this and writing the answer. I'll surely make use of your tips! :)
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Re: Reach for the Sky! [Ragequit?/Deckout] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35743.msg452269#msg452269
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 01:37:03 pm »
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