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Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459168#msg459168
« on: February 12, 2012, 04:41:12 am »
Nr. 1: Pegasus + Sky Blitz (Possible to change Pegasus with Archangel)
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Nr. 2: Don't burn your fingers. This got me a 5 ttw by the way :P (yes I know, Brimston eater isn't airborne :()
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Nr. 3: Angels and Dragons (bad draws probable)
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Nr.4: Without small there's no big (similar to the one before?)
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Nr. 5: With CC and PC!
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Nr. 6: Almost Mono Light!
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Nr. 7: Under Pressure (this can be certainly improved, also you can change the focus to more ffq or nymph)
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It seems logical that many versions build on a similar skeleton. But I was bored so I made up a bunch of pillarless decks. Every single one works (more or less ;))
I noticed that there are really lots of possibilities on what you can do even if you are forced to use the zero cost cards. I'm sure I could have done more decks depending on what
I want to put my focus on. (E.g. I had an idea of a deck with lots of eagles eye and animate weapon). I used (obviously) Epi most of the time to speed up quanta generation (or on archangels)

Anyway, I don't expect anything, just take a look at them and if you feel like it, leave a comment ;)
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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459185#msg459185
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 05:47:19 am »
Epinephrine + quanta creature = win  :))
Hey, how about this?
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Mito-rush! with stall power!
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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459202#msg459202
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 07:02:33 am »
nice one, i like it :)
though it loses the theme of airborne creatures ;)
but pillarless decks are cool, you don't have to bother much about pc ^^
however, the luciferase+hope+multiplying life creature is a well known synergy :)
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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459205#msg459205
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 07:10:57 am »
nice one, i like it :)
though it loses the theme of airborne creatures ;)
but pillarless decks are cool, you don't have to bother much about pc ^^
however, the luciferase+hope+multiplying life creature is a well known synergy :)
Well, it is, but the epinephrine for quanta generation synergises with it even more. Who would have thought that a stall-ish FG deck can turn into an all-rounded rusher?
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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459212#msg459212
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 07:29:55 am »
nice one, i like it :)
though it loses the theme of airborne creatures ;)
but pillarless decks are cool, you don't have to bother much about pc ^^
however, the luciferase+hope+multiplying life creature is a well known synergy :)
Well, it is, but the epinephrine for quanta generation synergises with it even more. Who would have thought that a stall-ish FG deck can turn into an all-rounded rusher?
And the answer is what makes this game so interesting :D
Haha, this synergy combines rush and stall, which sounds like a contradiction and brings us therefore to perfect harmony :)
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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459218#msg459218
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 08:15:23 am »
How about this? Deja-hope combined with rush power:
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3 hopes might be overkill though. Switch solar buckler to hope once there are a few light emitting cards.
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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459254#msg459254
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 12:07:01 pm »
How about this? Deja-hope combined with rush power:
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3 hopes might be overkill though. Switch solar buckler to hope once there are a few light emitting cards.
I tried once to do something like a RoL/Hope but with Deja-Vu instead xD
I wasn't too successful though  ::)
So your version is very simple and I guess pretty powerful but it seems a bit tight on :time quanta.
You can only play/split one deja per turn. Is that enough?
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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459256#msg459256
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2012, 12:09:24 pm »
How about this? Deja-hope combined with rush power:
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3 hopes might be overkill though. Switch solar buckler to hope once there are a few light emitting cards.
I tried once to do something like a RoL/Hope but with Deja-Vu instead xD
I wasn't too successful though  ::)
So your version is very simple and I guess pretty powerful but it seems a bit tight on :time quanta.
You can only play/split one deja per turn. Is that enough?
Probably enough, as you aren't expect to play a lot of them anyways.
A nova-oriented deja-hope might be better. That is far away from the original theme, though.
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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459282#msg459282
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2012, 01:44:50 pm »
to all the decks that use leaf dragon... drop those to just 4 copies per deck as you will only need 1 in field, making those other 5 dead cards in your deck and 4 is enough to replace if the first is killed by CC. 2 extra slots on those decks now, use them well :)

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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459313#msg459313
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2012, 03:20:48 pm »
to all the decks that use leaf dragon... drop those to just 4 copies per deck as you will only need 1 in field, making those other 5 dead cards in your deck and 4 is enough to replace if the first is killed by CC. 2 extra slots on those decks now, use them well :)
Your point stands here, I'll re-try other rustler decks...
But... does 4 ensures you draw 1 in early game?
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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459314#msg459314
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 03:22:20 pm »
to all the decks that use leaf dragon... drop those to just 4 copies per deck as you will only need 1 in field, making those other 5 dead cards in your deck and 4 is enough to replace if the first is killed by CC. 2 extra slots on those decks now, use them well :)
Your point stands here, I'll re-try other rustler decks...
But... does 4 ensures you draw 1 in early game?
yes it does, more of them and its more likely you will have more than one in early game so 4 is the magic number here

EDIT: of course this only holds true to 30 card decks keep that in mind

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Re: Pillarless (flying) Decks [airborne stuff][fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36587.msg459323#msg459323
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2012, 03:54:46 pm »
to all the decks that use leaf dragon... drop those to just 4 copies per deck as you will only need 1 in field, making those other 5 dead cards in your deck and 4 is enough to replace if the first is killed by CC. 2 extra slots on those decks now, use them well :)
Your point stands here, I'll re-try other rustler decks...
But... does 4 ensures you draw 1 in early game?
yes it does, more of them and its more likely you will have more than one in early game so 4 is the magic number here

EDIT: of course this only holds true to 30 card decks keep that in mind
Oooooh.... thanks for the advice. Now my deckbuilding realm as extended a bit. Still, expect novas, though.  :))
PVE shouldn't be all about copying a deck code and converting time into electrum, score, and potentially rares.
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