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immorush deck with decent cards to use quanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56843.msg1168479#msg1168479
« on: November 27, 2014, 01:17:09 am »
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This deck tries to make use of the quanta produced by the photons+immolations, but... I dunno. I have a feeling theres a way to make this better and perhaps drop some of the cards for more useful ones (less utility-spells and more cheap duo element cards), but I really would have no clue aside from perhaps some forest spirits and dropping the mitosis and rustler, freeing up the light quanta perhaps for a sundial or two (I have one upgraded sundial).
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Re: immorush deck with decent cards to use quanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56843.msg1168481#msg1168481
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2014, 01:34:07 am »
Ehrm.. what's with the Obsidian Tower?
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Re: immorush deck with decent cards to use quanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56843.msg1168485#msg1168485
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2014, 02:23:56 am »
Phoenixes instead of dragons, they are an extra target to immolate and you can resurrect them for only 1  :fire
Obs tower, useless
Precognition in a deck with more than 30 cards = waste of space or same as nothing
Luciferin to combo with Photons, rustler and mitosis: It won't work much, you WANT to immolate the photons!
Boneyard: Nope, not enough quanta

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Re: immorush deck with decent cards to use quanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56843.msg1168486#msg1168486
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2014, 02:30:53 am »
The main strength of an immo deck is its awesome speed; one immo allows you to dish out a powerful hitter turn 1. So you want to be able to play you hitters with one immo. Lava golem is ideal for this unupped. Phoenix is also manageable, but slower unless you have upped immo or fire towers. Crimsons can't be played fast enough, so better to use golems.

As for support, one or two novae is nice for deck speed. aside from that, you want a couple of bow hitters (Lucan, forest spirit) and control (deflag, lighting/reverse time, nightmare, etc.) Thunderstorm and purify are also nice one-offs. Finally, reduce deck size to 30. Anymore will seriously delay the immo combo.
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Re: immorush deck with decent cards to use quanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56843.msg1168490#msg1168490
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2014, 03:00:29 am »
yeah, I know to use immolation on the photons... (I planned to be able to use luciferin on the crimson dragons (I think, honestly I can't say for sure looking at that.)) I removed the boneyard, rustler and mitosis, and replaced the dragons mostly with pheonixes and a couple seraphs. (I did plan on having 4 cloaks and using a  :darkness mark along with one tower, but it would be way too hard to magically draw that with the first 8 cards.)
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This is currently what I'm trying to use (after reading the comments and... I have light to theoretically spare).
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Re: immorush deck with decent cards to use quanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56843.msg1168492#msg1168492
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2014, 03:21:16 am »
Your biggest trouble is that you have so many cards that cost 3+ but are only powered by immolations and novas; on average, you will have to draw half your deck to get the quanta to play them, and then your immorush is no longer a 'rush'.  Try to remove anything costing more than 2 unless it's either a fire card or matches your mark (which in this case is also fire) 

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Re: immorush deck with decent cards to use quanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56843.msg1168503#msg1168503
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2014, 05:31:00 am »
... theres only 3 cards that use 3 quanta of their respective element (couple that use more than 3 quanta across multiple element),  and its not really a true rush in the full respect of the word, but its kinda the same idea (although it MIGHT work better with more shards of bravery... still.)
Edit: 'bout to go to bed, so... yeah. I'm still messing around with the deck, and... kinda would like some help (is trying to make an immo-bow deck instead of a nova-bow deck too much?)
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Re: immorush deck with decent cards to use quanta https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56843.msg1168570#msg1168570
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2014, 07:14:51 pm »
... theres only 3 cards that use 3 quanta of their respective element (couple that use more than 3 quanta across multiple element),  and its not really a true rush in the full respect of the word, but its kinda the same idea (although it MIGHT work better with more shards of bravery... still.)
Edit: 'bout to go to bed, so... yeah. I'm still messing around with the deck, and... kinda would like some help (is trying to make an immo-bow deck instead of a nova-bow deck too much?)
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This is better then the previous versions, however it still has quanta issues. 3 costs and pump creatures that don't take fire quanta don't have enough fuel to get out fast enough to matter. Drop graboid and forest spirit for basilisk blood and horned frog. Cheaper, and offers control.

Sundial has no place in the deck, you could drop it for a freeze or something.

Blackhole can be swapped for momentum that way you have another way around shields.

Rain of fire is to expensive without towers, drop it.

With all that said, immo rushes function a lot better with some pillars in my experience. But those are normally monos/duos. You could drop all the cards I said and go with novas instead, that way you could run more diverse cards. What it comes down to is to you want speed or diversity in the deck?
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