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Help with Trebushamebow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29450.msg375368#msg375368
« on: August 04, 2011, 03:39:19 am »
Okay, SoI have found that trebuchet can do a hefty sum of damage, and I wish to try a rainbow variety, so here's my decklist
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52l 52s 52s 55m 55m 55m 55m 561 561 561 592 592 595 595 595 595 595 595 5i7 5i7 5i7 5og 5og 5v0 5v0 5v0 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 8pm



How can I make this faster, and closer to a OHKO, I currently max at around 60 damage.

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Re: Help with Trebushamebow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29450.msg375373#msg375373
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 03:49:40 am »
Fewer total cards, Supernovas, fewer shields, maybe a weapon, no Enchant Artifacts. They're all holding back your speed, though I don't know if it will necessarily increase your win rate.

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Re: Help with Trebushamebow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29450.msg375374#msg375374
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 03:50:22 am »
Hi,

According to this 60 is the maximum you can inflict with the catapult:

http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Catapult

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Re: Help with Trebushamebow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29450.msg375408#msg375408
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 08:01:01 am »
Hi,

According to this 60 is the maximum you can inflict with the catapult:

http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Catapult
Not if the creature is frozen. Unless I'm mistaken, frozen creatures deal 30% more damage? If the base damage is 45, it deals almost 60. 6 Basilisk Bloods have 120 add to Armagio's 25, which is 145 and therefore 50 damage + 30% = 65 damage, over 60. But maybe I'm wrong with my math.

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Re: Help with Trebushamebow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29450.msg375425#msg375425
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 10:24:36 am »
Hi,

According to this 60 is the maximum you can inflict with the catapult:

http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Catapult
1. Ew, wikia. Use the Official Wiki (http://elementscommunity.org/wiki).

2. The table uses the old formula, where, as HP tends to infinity, damage tends to 75. A 499 HP creature would do 65 damage.

Balance:
Catapult does more damage, the formula uses now 100, instead of 75, as the maximum possible damage.
The new formula is "damage = (100 * HP) / (100 + HP)"
As HP tends to infinity, damage tends to 100. A 499 HP creature would do 83 damage.

20 HP: 17 damage, 22 frozen
25 HP: 20 damage, 26 frozen
40 HP: 29 damage, 38 frozen
45 HP: 31 damage, 40 frozen

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Re: Help with Trebushamebow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29450.msg375445#msg375445
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 12:20:00 pm »
So, it's not really feasible for a OHKO without spamming armagio's and making a huge chimera. I would need to look into two creatures to hit for a win. Any further tips?

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Re: Help with Trebushamebow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29450.msg375924#msg375924
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 05:29:57 pm »
Just an idea that popped into my head-- you're not using time quanta at all, adding in 2-3 golden hourglasses all help as this isn't a deck-out deck and therefore in theory speeding it up in any way possible is a good idea. I haven't actually tested it though, so don't kill me if I screw you up :P

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Re: Help with Trebushamebow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29450.msg375929#msg375929
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 05:40:26 pm »
Add 6 sundials.

 

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