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Could I get some help with my poison deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=137.msg1134#msg1134
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:31 pm »

In all honesty, that deck kinda stinks. You should use bonewall with otyughs. That's the most successful combo I've found with bonewalls if you plan on using them.

Nureru

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Could I get some help with my poison deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=137.msg1135#msg1135
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:31 pm »

I tried making the BoneSon deck in the wiki, http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/BoneSon, and though the concept seems fun the freezes and bone walls seem wholly insufficient for blocking the attacks of just about anyone who summons more than 3 powerful creatures. I think I'd like to use dimensional shield as my defense instead, but I'm not really sure how I should go about working the Aether in there. Tips?

Warr

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Could I get some help with my poison deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=137.msg2067#msg2067
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

^agree, they grow while your bonewall does, and it's all over, plus when you have vultures growing as well as your Otg's it's over!! It's a great strat.

Look dont copy the deck strats of people, I learn that in the long run, because once you start
a new deck that you seen somebody put together and you dont know what to do in certain spots
in a battle, your gonna be trouble! big trouble! Tweak decks best to fit your advantage and game
style.

:)


RoKetha

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Could I get some help with my poison deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=137.msg2868#msg2868
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:48 pm »

This deck benefits IMMENSELY (as in, not worth playing without them most of the time) from the addition of 6 upgraded sundials... sadly they must be upgraded. Heck, the whole deck in general functions quite poorly if the cards aren't upgraded, except the Chrysaoras (which you should never upgrade for obvious reasons). You lose too many turns with the weaker poison and higher costs.

Anyway, it's actually a very solid deck if you look at the pros to it:

1) Completely ignores any and all shields, except for the Arsenic.

2) Basically immune to Steal/Deflag, except coming from the (ridiculously overpowered since there's no counter whatsoever for anything without earth) upgraded Pulverizer.

3) Completely ignores enemy Sundials and in fact benefits from them.

4) Easy to transition from a fast killer to a stall deck; your opponent is almost always forced to draw heavily until he gets multiple Bonds at which point you just poison everything, play a Sundial or two and put up a Bone Wall.

5) Upgraded, it uses so little quanta that pillar denial doesn't work well.

6) Can kill most Rainbow decks about half the time, depending on their draw.

7) Laughs at mono-fire, one of the most popular non-Rainbow decks.

8) Can actually kill some of the gods, though it's not a god-killer deck for sure.

The cons:

1) If FFQ + Oty + Bond shows and you don't have a congeal or enough poison counters already in play, you will usually lose.
2) Very weak to mono-dark.
3) Purify drastically slows it; you should hold a few of your Poison spells until after it if there's a chance it could see play. If they have TWO Purifies o.O you're screwed.
4) HATESHATESHATES Graveyards (Boneyards, not so much since Skeletons die en masse to poison and fuel your Bone Wall).

Of course, to play it properly you have to know when you should hold your cards. You want to congeal FFQ as soon as it shows, but congealing Otys early on can get you a ton of free Chrysaora time. Since your creature control is limited you have to judge when you should play your Plagues too. And obviously, you want to save Sundials for when they help a lot.

Here's the version I ended up using:


In all honesty, that deck kinda stinks. You should use bonewall with otyughs. That's the most successful combo I've found with bonewalls if you plan on using them.
In other words, "play Rainbow using the exact same deck as everyone else, and have absolutely no counter to enemy Bone Walls whatsoever." You can try Gravity/Death with Momentum but I think you'll find far too quickly that the Heavy Armor in every Rainbow deck screws you over completely, and adding a third element basically makes you Rainbow.

Scaredgirl

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Could I get some help with my poison deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=137.msg3192#msg3192
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:49 pm »

Here's the version I ended up using:


Lol that's almost identical to the one I posted a couple of days later. :)
http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,386.0.html (http://elementstheforum.smfforfree3.com/index.php/topic,386.0.html)



I had Sundials at one point but I found they just slow me down. Many decks have Pulverizer or other means of destroying those Sundials. And the fact that you can't even use the Sundials to draw more cards, makes them even less effective.

I took 2 Arsenic's because I wanted to have one in my hand earlier and it gets easily stolen or destroyed.

I used a 30 card deck because that's all I need. I never deck out because someone always dies before that, hopefully the other guy. And with smaller deck, I get better opening hands.

I always use upgraded Chyasoras, I don't care what other people say :) Those upgraded ones help take Bone Wall down (so Arsenic works) and that 2 damage they do, adds up. Sure, Fire Wall and Procrastination can be a problem but they are not that common and I never lost a fight because of that. However I HAVE won a fight because of that 2 extra damage and Bone Wall destruction.

But yeah.. this death/water is definitely the best combo for any poison deck. I've tried them all and this one just works the best. That Congeal is just so awesome.

Warr

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Could I get some help with my poison deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=137.msg3193#msg3193
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:49 pm »

^that decks fully up :)


Blazeraid

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Could I get some help with my poison deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=137.msg4247#msg4247
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

Upgraded sundials are free to play but cost 2 light quantum to hasten.

zaga

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Could I get some help with my poison deck? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=137.msg4248#msg4248
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

Here's the version I ended up using:

erm...call me a newb, but how did you end up with Time quanta to use the sundials?

 

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