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Re: Patient Wardens for all War Teams http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66330.msg1280277#msg1280277
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2018, 05:05:38 PM »
so u are trying to damage 2 teams because 2 years ago a wm made both sofree and sopa cheap

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Re: Patient Wardens for all War Teams http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66330.msg1280292#msg1280292
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2018, 09:50:05 PM »
Can we just accept that some cards are always going to be better than others? SoPa and SoFre are OP, regardless of which teams think they can use them. Doesn't mean they should be banned outright. We have market prices for a reason.

I like that JCJ is trying to show us SoPa can be used by just about anyone, some of those decks are pretty creative, but the point about that making it balanced for War simply doesn't hold water. If anything, that fact that any team can use such a powerful card makes it MORE centralising to the meta, not less. Making shards like this cheaper is a bad idea.

Even so, I'm still of the stance that no legitimate card should be banned from the entirety of War. Appropriate market pricings and better preparation from particularly vulnerable elements (looking at you :aether) will help.
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Re: Patient Wardens for all War Teams http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66330.msg1280295#msg1280295
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2018, 10:51:25 PM »
...but the point about that making it balanced for War simply doesn't hold water...

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Re: Patient Wardens for all War Teams http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66330.msg1280298#msg1280298
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2018, 12:35:08 AM »
Can we just accept that some cards are always going to be better than others? SoPa and SoFre are OP, regardless of which teams think they can use them. Doesn't mean they should be banned outright. We have market prices for a reason.

I like that JCJ is trying to show us SoPa can be used by just about anyone, some of those decks are pretty creative, but the point about that making it balanced for War simply doesn't hold water. If anything, that fact that any team can use such a powerful card makes it MORE centralising to the meta, not less. Making shards like this cheaper is a bad idea.

Even so, I'm still of the stance that no legitimate card should be banned from the entirety of War. Appropriate market pricings and better preparation from particularly vulnerable elements (looking at you :aether) will help.

Idk who can prepare better than a team containing 3 masters including 7 times master of aether (14 master titles total in that team), and 3 times war winner, 2 WC trophies between them amongst multiple other achievements.
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Re: Patient Wardens for all War Teams http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66330.msg1280301#msg1280301
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2018, 02:25:11 AM »
How many sofree and SoP did team life use?
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Re: Patient Wardens for all War Teams http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66330.msg1280311#msg1280311
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2018, 08:37:49 AM »
Can we just accept that some cards are always going to be better than others? SoPa and SoFre are OP, regardless of which teams think they can use them. Doesn't mean they should be banned outright. We have market prices for a reason.

I like that JCJ is trying to show us SoPa can be used by just about anyone, some of those decks are pretty creative, but the point about that making it balanced for War simply doesn't hold water. If anything, that fact that any team can use such a powerful card makes it MORE centralising to the meta, not less. Making shards like this cheaper is a bad idea.

Even so, I'm still of the stance that no legitimate card should be banned from the entirety of War. Appropriate market pricings and better preparation from particularly vulnerable elements (looking at you :aether) will help.

Idk who can prepare better than a team containing 3 masters including 7 times master of aether (14 master titles total in that team), and 3 times war winner, 2 WC trophies between them amongst multiple other achievements.

I only hope you can. It would be unfortunate to realise halfway through war that you have no SoFre checks in the vault. I'm not doubting deuce, or any Aether soldier's pvp capabilities, just saying that if you know you're going to have to face certain decks, you should plan for them. Make the most of the cards you're given rather than complain about what your opponent has. I do not accept the notion that aether has no decks to beat air.
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Re: Patient Wardens for all War Teams http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66330.msg1280312#msg1280312
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2018, 08:47:26 AM »
Let us make SoFree decks for all Woar teams too! :P
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Re: Patient Wardens for all War Teams http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66330.msg1280314#msg1280314
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2018, 09:31:11 AM »
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I do not accept the notion that aether has no decks to beat air.
Neither did I. We worked long and hard, packing PU adrenastaves for the sole purpose of beating a single deck from a single element. I estimated its chances at 60%. It got the planned matchup and still lost. If you intend on not accepting this, then back it up with a deck that can win 75%+ of the time. Only then can it be considered a counter.

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Re: Patient Wardens for all War Teams http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66330.msg1280409#msg1280409
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2018, 11:34:52 PM »
How many sofree and SoP did team life use?

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Re: Patient Wardens for all War Teams http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66330.msg1281292#msg1281292
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