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Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg322664#msg322664
« on: April 29, 2011, 03:28:59 pm »
Matchups for round 4
:death Mrblonde
:time SpikeSpiegel (Gen)
:death Kevkev
:entropy BatCountry
:death Xdude
:fire Svenningen
:death Daxx
:light coinich (Gen)
 
:death ICB
:life Falcon4415
:death xn0ize
:earth TimerClock14
:death SteppingStone
:gravity  seraph
:death Marvaddin
:air The Mormegil
MrBlonde (General)
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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg322840#msg322840
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2011, 07:30:32 pm »
K, let me put up a quick decklist

Mrblonde vs :time (gen) - i think mvp air deck perhaps
Kevkev vs :entropy - 31 card pandabonium? i know that might sound crazy, but....
xdude vs :fire - something with skull shields? i'm sure they might expect earth stall again.
daxx vs :light (gen) - Earth stall
Sub vs :life - Discord/BH
xnoize vs :earth - EQ deck off mark with skull shields, poison creatures?
SS vs :gravity - Rewind
Marv vs :air - rounded entropy

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg322890#msg322890
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2011, 08:28:10 pm »
K, let me put up a quick decklist

Mrblonde vs :time (gen) - i think mvp air deck perhaps
i agree, nothing stops SS to use a novabow with purifies, GOTP , grabs, nightmares, and all other things, that a very good option for them, i would've taken that if i were them

Kevkev vs :entropy - 31 card pandabonium? i know that might sound crazy, but....
iunno about this one, if we go pandabonium, we are tost, i see that mumbow is  one of our best options here

xdude vs :fire - something with skull shields? i'm sure they might expect earth stall again.
no doubt they will see the earth stall coming, this time i think we will see that light/fire deck again, with more cards, earth stall with even more earth cards is cool, but they might go super rush to avoid that, i say RUSH THEM BACK!
daxx vs :light (gen) - Earth stall
they are going for stall this time, they failed with rushes and all of those 3 times already, i think rush is still an option, i see the immortal coming from coinich, or even the water/light stall
Sub vs :life - Discord/BH
i doubt they wont  see this coming, but it can work really well, but i don't want to lose that deck with a chance we don't benefit anything from playing it ;\

xnoize vs :earth - EQ deck off mark with skull shields, poison creatures?
nothing stops them going the immortal , AGAIN, i just hate that deck, but they will be prepared for the immo deck, i think they will go graboid rush,with rewinds

SS vs :gravity - Rewind
not sure what to pack here

Marv vs :air - rounded entropy
i don't see an OTK deck coming from them, nothing i can really add, sorry.
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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg322910#msg322910
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2011, 08:45:26 pm »
Mrblonde vs :time SpikeSpiegel (Gen)
Spike <3’s dunescorps.  Dunno whether Chaos Power, Blessing, or Momentum is coming.  I like the lightning rush here.

kevkev vs :entropy BatCountry
btw I see that mrblonde superninja'd my day-long post with the same conclusion.  lulz.  Entropy has lost with poison decks each of the past two rounds.  Last round they used two nova decks and an immo deck.  Being unprepared to deal with Discord was a huge error on our part last round.  Here we can rectify it by using some novas.  I’ve tested this (w/salvaged purifies) quite a bit and I’m happyish with the results:
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Xdude vs :fire Svenningen
Fire used two bolt decks in R2 and lost with them both, then fielded none in R3.  Super interesting R3 matchup here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25305.0.html).  Entropy took pandeboneium, figuring it’d beat everything except a bolt deck and knowing Fire was low on bolts.  Fire made a huge bet, built a counter, and it paid off.  Anyway, I like using the immo deck here.  It’s faster than bolt decks and their steam machine deck, would be unexpected, and if they kill our critters we’ll have more quanta for dragons. :)

Daxx vs :light coinich (Gen)
Super weird that they’ve taken gravity duos against us three rounds in a row.  They must really fear BW, I guess.  I started to give the same advice as xn’s Light matchup last round:  splash deflags, steals, or RTs.  But as I look at their available decks I still think EQ would wreck them.  Dunno.  Looking forward to hearing what Daxx, xdude, and everyone else think.

ICB vs :life Falcon4415
No idea at all what they’ll use.  They lost using a couple problematic decks last round.  xn will be happy to hear me recommending DoSA here. :)

xn0ize vs :earth TimerClock14
I don’t think the same stall deck thrice in a row from Earth is likely.  I feel like we could instead see a 30-card stall with BBs, SSs, Tits, and poison/arsenic run off the mark.  They have all that in their vault because they won with it twice during R1 and haven’t played it since.  Plus they have taken some hits the past two rounds and they should be looking at a different way to attack us, recognizing their biggest problem card is BW.  Unfortunately we could also see a rush.  I really like the Fire/Death duo cuz it has deflags for potential Tits/arsenic/whatever, rage for grabby/gotp/whatever, and mummies are tough to rewind.

SteppingStone vs :gravity  seraph
For the reasons I gave last round, a damage-heavy novabow is a great option here.

Marvaddin vs :air The Mormegil
My crystal ball says flying Titans are coming.  They haven't used lightning or ragepots once this War so... how’s this for over simplistic yet potentially effective:
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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg323169#msg323169
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2011, 02:01:12 am »
EQ does seem like it could hurt Light a lot. I'd be interested to try some variation with that.

Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg323267#msg323267
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2011, 04:31:14 am »
quick comments before a more full response later:

Xdude vs :fire Svenningen
Fire used two bolt decks in R2 and lost with them both, then fielded none in R3.  Super interesting R3 matchup here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25305.0.html).  Entropy took pandeboneium, figuring it’d beat everything except a bolt deck and knowing Fire was low on bolts.  Fire made a huge bet, built a counter, and it paid off.  Anyway, I like using the immo deck here.  It’s faster than bolt decks and their steam machine deck, would be unexpected, and if they kill our critters we’ll have more quanta for dragons. :)
Deflags from fire really hurt the immo deck (they can kill our critters without fueling our deck).

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ICB vs :life Falcon4415
No idea at all what they’ll use.  They lost using a couple problematic decks last round.  xn will be happy to hear me recommending DoSA here. :)
Note: due to discards last round, we can field only one of (immo deck, DoSA)

Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg324090#msg324090
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 11:23:30 am »
Mrblonde vs :time SpikeSpiegel (Gen)
    MVP air deck  (Mrblonde)  (xn0ize)lightning rush  (kevkev)Discord/BH  (SS81)
kevkev vs :entropy BatCountry
    31-card pandebonium  (Mrblonde)  (kevkev)  (SS81)mumbow  (xn0ize)
Xdude vs :fire Svenningen
    skull shields  (Mrblonde)immo deck  (kevkev)rush  (xn0ize)earth duo anti-fire deck  (SS81)
Daxx vs :light coinich (Gen)
    earth stall  (Mrblonde)  (SS81)EQ  (kevkev)  (Daxx)rush  (xn0ize)
ICB vs :life Falcon4415
    discord/BH  (Mrblonde)DoSA  (kevkev)  (SS81)??  (xn0ize)
xn0ize vs :earth TimerClock14
    EQ deck off mark with skull shields, poison creatures?  (Mrblonde)Fire/Death duo  (kevkev)  (SS81)??  (xn0ize)
SteppingStone vs :gravity  seraph
    rewind  (Mrblonde)  (SS81)damage-heavy novabow  (kevkev)??  (xn0ize)
Marvaddin vs :air The Mormegil
    rounded entropy  (Mrblonde)dragons + rewind  (kevkev)  (SS81)??  (xn0ize)

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg324259#msg324259
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 04:24:26 pm »
Ugh being sick sucks. Anyhow i am busy all day with work/sisters birthday today but i will be in later tonight to put together decks and figure out salvaging so we can go over the decisions tomorrow.

Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg324583#msg324583
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2011, 09:51:15 pm »
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ICB vs :life Falcon4415
    discord/BH  (Mrblonde)DoSA  (kevkev)  (SS81)??  (xn0ize)
did some testing with xn0ize today.  The immo deck should actually do pretty well against most possible life decks.  Their dim shield deck obviously a problem ... could consider adding 2x deflag.

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg324854#msg324854
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 06:35:08 am »
after thinking alot , [ something i can't really do ] , i came  to a decision , using the immobow for a sub is damn waste, if we win, we gain nothing, if we lose, we lose DoSa and the immodeck , damn big risk for gaining nothing.
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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg324870#msg324870
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 07:19:07 am »
after thinking alot , [ something i can't really do ] , i came  to a decision , using the immobow for a sub is damn waste, if we win, we gain nothing, if we lose, we lose DoSa and the immodeck , damn big risk for gaining nothing.
6 card salvage is much less important than avoiding losing 24 cards.  we should pick the best decks for each matchup.

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Re: Round 4 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25325.msg324888#msg324888
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2011, 08:01:59 am »
K, let me put up a quick decklist

Mrblonde vs :time (gen) - i think mvp air deck perhaps
Kevkev vs :entropy - 31 card pandabonium? i know that might sound crazy, but....
xdude vs :fire - something with skull shields? i'm sure they might expect earth stall again.
daxx vs :light (gen) - Earth stall
Sub vs :life - Discord/BH
xnoize vs :earth - EQ deck off mark with skull shields, poison creatures?
SS vs :gravity - Rewind
Marv vs :air - rounded entropy
Blonde: MVP Air should do well, hopefully turtle shield won't slow it too much.
Kev: Let's go with the crazy stuff.
xdude: Unless they Fire Stall us again, the Lightning rush should do OK...
Daxx: Eh, I doubt EQ's efficiency here. If they are smart enough to bring Solar Shields, EQ's are almost wasted. Perhaps some sort of Rewind rush with Bonewalls? (counters Scorps, allows us to rewind creatures to prevent deckout)
ICB: I wonder if they can counter the Immo-deck's speed... or, perhaps DoSA.
xn0ize: Let's give the Fire/Death a try, Deflags are great against their Shields and RP's make BB a double-edged weapon in any long game.
SS81: A fast mono should do it.
Marvaddin: Dragons/Poison/Rewinds should give them a run for their money.
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