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Re: Skeleton | Elite Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg266693#msg266693
« Reply #108 on: February 08, 2011, 01:22:44 am »
Rainbow decks no longer have to pack Fallen Druids to stack high amounts of damage.  Now they can just use the trusty Eternity.
Actually imo regarding that mutants have abilities that no creature has (steal has been a game changer >.<), I would like to keep Fallen in my deck for such purposes, also it helps fix those annoying bad Undeads; and a common tactic that I use is mutating the opponents creatures and then reverse timing them, making them useless most of the time, and of course delaying the opponent's deck draws by a turn.  So Fallens still have a solid spot in my deck.

Actually after examining some beta decks with this and Skull Buckler, double RT works just as well, so I stand corrected.
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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg266842#msg266842
« Reply #109 on: February 08, 2011, 04:21:40 am »
Beyond that, the Fallen Druid mutants are never vanilla creatures (although some skills are really useless).

The main thing I dislike about this, is that the skeleton looks like from an humanoid creature. It seems strange it being able to return to, lets say, a dragon, or even more strange, a virus. If skeletons are really going to have this skill, looks like we should create a list of possible creatures.

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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg267056#msg267056
« Reply #110 on: February 08, 2011, 04:12:10 pm »
Beyond that, the Fallen Druid mutants are never vanilla creatures (although some skills are really useless).

The main thing I dislike about this, is that the skeleton looks like from an humanoid creature. It seems strange it being able to return to, lets say, a dragon, or even more strange, a virus. If skeletons are really going to have this skill, looks like we should create a list of possible creatures.
I disagree. First of all, not everything should have to be 100% rational. Second of all, a boneyard generates a skeleton when a virus dies, so why shouldn't a skeleton be able to be reversed into a virus?

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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg267063#msg267063
« Reply #111 on: February 08, 2011, 04:20:20 pm »
Bone dragon should have this too. If targeted with reverse time it turns into a live dragon with half of the original bone dragon's attack and health. Just thinking.

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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg267076#msg267076
« Reply #112 on: February 08, 2011, 04:43:20 pm »
Bone dragon should have this too. If targeted with reverse time it turns into a live dragon with half of the original bone dragon's attack and health. Just thinking.
That would actually be a big nerf to one of the better dragons.  While thematically it may fit, it better get like 15+ attack to be worthwhile.  Some things are best left alone.

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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg267097#msg267097
« Reply #113 on: February 08, 2011, 05:47:03 pm »
OK, 1) bone dragon is one of the better dragons?

and 2) Why not just have it turn into a random other dragon?
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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg267101#msg267101
« Reply #114 on: February 08, 2011, 05:54:12 pm »
2) Why not just have it turn into a random other dragon?
I thought about the exact same thing. At first I thought it would be a buff because one RT on the dragon wouldn't really do much. The problem, though, is that the second RT would likely make it unplayable. So overall I think it would be a nerf. It would be a mixed blessing, as they say; better for situations when someone only has a few RT's and you're low on quanta and worse against something like a time mono with eternity, hourglasses, and tons of RT to draw. I guess it would be interesting and consistent with the mummy/skeleton thing.

It would be good in a dragon rainbow, esp a timebow.

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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg267578#msg267578
« Reply #115 on: February 09, 2011, 08:46:39 am »
2) Why not just have it turn into a random other dragon?
the same reason why not all aether creatures have built-in immaterial

while i completely agree, thematically bone dragon should be able to turn into other random dragon if targeted by rewind effect, its a bit bland when there are too much synergy between 2 elements using the same mechanic like that
plus, if it does happen, you cant allow skelly to turn into a random dragon (for the sake of balance purposes)
all in all, maybe just stick it to mummy and skeleton for now
bone dragon is ok imo, no buff or nerf needed

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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg267651#msg267651
« Reply #116 on: February 09, 2011, 02:50:48 pm »
Well then obviously we need to create a phat new Death card called Dracolich that an Ivory Dragon turns into when Rewound. 8)
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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg267667#msg267667
« Reply #117 on: February 09, 2011, 03:31:27 pm »
I'm not sure I think this Rewind idea should be one of Death's main mechanics though.  Its not all together that strong, and if it becomes Deaths signature "trick" I it will blot many other options out.

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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg268713#msg268713
« Reply #118 on: February 11, 2011, 11:04:56 am »
It also doesn't even make sense. Since when can you turn undead creatures back to life by using a simple spell? Have you ever seen a horror/fantasy movie where that was possible?
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Re: Skeleton | Skeleton https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1976.msg268715#msg268715
« Reply #119 on: February 11, 2011, 11:08:53 am »
It also doesn't even make sense. Since when can you turn undead creatures back to life by using a simple spell? Have you ever seen a horror/fantasy movie where that was possible?
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