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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg112644#msg112644
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2010, 04:02:07 am »
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8990.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8990.0.html)

my original card idea before is to create a scorpion with 2 poison damage each turn, which very similar to this tiny thing :)

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg112768#msg112768
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2010, 09:47:03 am »
Another death card?! Death now has 13 non rare cards and aether has 9 O:
Aether needs more cards even if they are pretty weak ones. Just to add some variation to mono aether decks.

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg112809#msg112809
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2010, 12:09:15 pm »
Another death card?! Death now has 13 non rare cards and aether has 9 O:
Aether needs more cards even if they are pretty weak ones. Just to add some variation to mono aether decks.
Aether may have few cards, but they're amazing. Quintessence makes a creature untargettable to anything, and blocks "all of your field" effects to boot. Twin universe allows you to get whatever card your opponent has as is, or double your own; meaning growth creatures suddenly get turned against their owners, that great ability they just got is now available to you (if you have the quanta). Fractal is one of the staples of almost every non-rainbow FG killer, and makes cards which are best in groups massively more powerful. Their immortals and dragons enter the field immaterial, and are untouchable to everything except shields and inundation. Thunderbolt is the strongest creature damage spell at the start of the game. Phase shield grants you three turns of invulnerability to anything without momentum (with the same permanent control problems as every other targettable shield). The Recluse does huge damage and has the web ability (for synergy with Wings). Electrocutor can remove troublesome abilities from creatures and uses on-element quanta (unlike some powerful weapons). Hell, even ball lightning is free and does 5 damage.

Aether is awesome.

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg112822#msg112822
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2010, 12:54:20 pm »
Another death card?! Death now has 13 non rare cards and aether has 9 O:
Aether needs more cards even if they are pretty weak ones. Just to add some variation to mono aether decks.
Aether may have few cards, but they're amazing. Quintessence makes a creature untargettable to anything, and blocks "all of your field" effects to boot. Twin universe allows you to get whatever card your opponent has as is, or double your own; meaning growth creatures suddenly get turned against their owners, that great ability they just got is now available to you (if you have the quanta). Fractal is one of the staples of almost every non-rainbow FG killer, and makes cards which are best in groups massively more powerful. Their immortals and dragons enter the field immaterial, and are untouchable to everything except shields and inundation. Thunderbolt is the strongest creature damage spell at the start of the game. Phase shield grants you three turns of invulnerability to anything without momentum (with the same permanent control problems as every other targettable shield). The Recluse does huge damage and has the web ability (for synergy with Wings). Electrocutor can remove troublesome abilities from creatures and uses on-element quanta (unlike some powerful weapons). Hell, even ball lightning is free and does 5 damage.

Aether is awesome.
why'll this is true i think he wants ore variations. so many people always say that but aether is 1 deck. no other monos and even in duos its usually fractal.

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg112917#msg112917
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2010, 04:33:45 pm »
Well, I just made a nice deathstalker deck, the completely new speedpoison:

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O, and a tip, don't play your deathstalkers before you can play a eclipse, they are absolutly useless, so they are only vulnerable for control. (had a epic fail with 5 deathstalkers, no eclips and opponent plays plague ;)
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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg112926#msg112926
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2010, 04:48:17 pm »
wow! isn't that a bit OP? fractal that and you get .. eee well 20 posion on the person your playing a .. turn! thats just cool 8)
That would need a trio Aether-Darkness-Death so you have nightfall/eclipse.

you could just use a darkness mark to get the nightfall/eclipse.

Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg112963#msg112963
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2010, 06:08:03 pm »
I'd go darkness/death. ( can also add recluses which go up to 8/4 with eclipse.) These scorpions are probably all chrysoara/physalia killers. Bye, bye Jellyfish. Not you, uncle.
No hard feelings. I'll fine a way to make my Jellyfish better. XD

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg112966#msg112966
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2010, 06:15:24 pm »
@The dictator:  That similar to my Nightstalker deck.  Probably works a bit faster though.

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg112968#msg112968
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2010, 06:18:53 pm »
So.... With adrenaline, this would add 4 counters each turn?  Deathstalker + Eclipse + Adrenaline + 3-6 PU = WTF ragequit
No it'll be added every other turn like devourers and puffer fishes abilities.
That is true, it works like Puffer Fish and other passive restricts with Adrenaline, but it will add 4 poison with it. They all use their abilities on the first and third attack, so it's Attack(+2 Poison)+Attack+Attack(+2 Poison)+Attack, provided it has less than 4.
Well, last time I checked the venom ability was applied the first and the last turn, with pufferfishes and with arsenic. (checked against a dusk mantle).

It isn't very strange, because imagine it being the first and the third turn, and the opponent having a turtle shield out.
Yes, it would do full poisoning. (attack + poison, time bubble, attack + poison, time bubble).
When timing the wrong way, it would do nothing.
To quote myself, I just did some tests.
With adrenaline, venom is applied the first and the last attack, so when 3 or less atk, the first and the fourth, for 4-8 the first and the third, and from 9-15 on both attacks.
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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg112998#msg112998
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2010, 07:04:15 pm »
Holy ******, this is insane! This is getting weird, zanz buffed purify to a crazy extent first, then thought he'd nerfed poison too hard and decided to come up with this?

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113052#msg113052
« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2010, 08:09:58 pm »
I'd go darkness/death. ( can also add recluses which go up to 8/4 with eclipse.) These scorpions are probably all chrysoara/physalia killers. Bye, bye Jellyfish. Not you, uncle.
No hard feelings. I'll fine a way to make my Jellyfish better. XD
I did some testing against AI3 with the dictators deck and while this card is a nice addition to the game, no way is it a chrysoara/physalia killer.  I didn't gather any hard statistics, but this deck isn't appreciably faster than a death/water poison deck and due to the reliance on nightfall has a number of weaknesses.  One of the beauties of the water/death version is that it is resistant to shields.  This version, not so much.

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Re: Deathstalker | Deathstalker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9468.msg113155#msg113155
« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2010, 11:55:46 pm »
this would fit perfect in a speed poison kinda deck i cant wait my fav new car

 

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