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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474021#msg474021
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2012, 03:25:25 am »
That was changed just now, I think. I haven't checked, though.
Hopefully, this change will make aflatoxin see some more use. I don't think I've ever seen it in PvP.
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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474022#msg474022
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2012, 03:48:20 am »
Aflatoxin is the only card in the game that I have never put into any deck, whether it be an arena deck, a tournament deck, or even just a silly for fun deck.  I'm glad to see it get a cost reduction, but I'm still never going to use it :p  Even with this buff, I think it's the weakest card in the game.  It's too bad, because the card itself is actually really cool, it's just not competitive.

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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474066#msg474066
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2012, 05:49:11 am »
Doesn't the purple counter stay, so that when the creature dies, it'll turn into a Malignant Cell still?
Discussed here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37733.0.html).

Aflatoxin can be a fun card, and the new price decrease just makes it better! At 5 :death, this can even be run in SNbows and can be used way more frequently.

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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474131#msg474131
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2012, 10:49:53 am »
Much needed buff, though as others have mentioned I still think it's too expensive to use. I might be wrong, but I'll start thinking of using it around 4|3 cost.

The last time I used it must've been some CCYB variant, and I wasn't fond of it back then either :P

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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474211#msg474211
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2012, 04:45:32 pm »
Maybe at some point buff gray nymph to 0|7 / 0|9 ?
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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474212#msg474212
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2012, 04:46:24 pm »
A well deserved buff.

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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474249#msg474249
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2012, 06:28:12 pm »
Maybe at some point buff gray nymph to 0|7 / 0|9 ?
The point being? After 6 or so, hp doesn't really matter that much. Besides, you're using gray nymph for its ability, not its sturidness. 7hp is sturdy enough.

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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474262#msg474262
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2012, 07:00:16 pm »
The best way to buff Afla, in my opinion, is not by buffing the card itself, but by adding another card that has strong synergy with it. Something that punishes the opponent for having too many creatures would be a start, a sort of offensive Bond.

That said, any buff to an underused card is a good buff, so I can't really complain.
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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474276#msg474276
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2012, 07:56:45 pm »
The card has only ever had one use for me, and that is shutdown stalls. (Afla + PA Thorn carapace). In which case, this buff means the afla could probably come out a turn faster. But it is a stall, so I need to look harder to see how much of a difference this makes in this situation.

Though the buffing of SoP would also compliment this nicely. Afla patience will be able to start building up damage faster. I don't really know how viable that deck is going to be. Testing and variance required. (Idea 1: Mono death SoSac stall, with afla skele with patience for a finisher. Idea 2: Death light, with mirror shield, afla photon, and afla lock opponent, stall through healing. Idea 3: Jade afla deckout stall, with healing through e-bond. Haven't checked beta decks yet.)

Still nice to see balance is still being kept in mind.

I think the biggest problem with aflatoxin is permanent removal. Only 1.5 shields can block cells (Mirror upped, upped and unupped jade). Otherwise any sort of cell lock requires protection for the shield, so you aren't accidentally overrun.
I also think rush is the other problem, where afla only deals with one threat, and eventually stops new threats. All the other quick creatures are still beating your face in while you slowly wait for the cells to fill your opponent's field.

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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474289#msg474289
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2012, 08:21:52 pm »
Well, with PA and Titanium in the same element, one shouldn't be too quick to count them out.  And Aflatoxin has other uses than purely stalling.  For example: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36871.msg494560#msg494560 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,36871.msg494560#msg494560)

Yes, it isn't the most practical, but the cost drop will certainly make similar strategies viable.

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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474290#msg474290
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Re: Aflatoxin | Aflatoxin https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1967.msg474293#msg474293
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2012, 08:40:32 pm »
Nice to see this card buffed. Still quite costly, but it is powerful in its own right. Needs more synergies (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16064.0.html), as Terro said.

 

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