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Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1075747#msg1075747
« on: May 30, 2013, 08:20:28 pm »
I have posted this awhile back on my other account that I lost when the forum moved. Had help from jmdt when he was still here. Its my favorite Mono Deck that I like to use.

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I beat a person on Kong who was using Mono Air Rush with SoFre. Was lucky cause my Dragon hit him when he put out his shield.
Can get a 5 or 6 turn win with a decent draw.
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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1075748#msg1075748
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 08:30:43 pm »
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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1075963#msg1075963
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 01:23:48 pm »
Nice deck. I prefer it with two Arsenics and spliting the Bone Towers in Pendulums.

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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1087277#msg1087277
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2013, 09:52:00 am »
Almost similar to mine except:

-2 Elite Mummy
+1 Arsenic
+1 Bone Dragon

I use this to grind AI3's. I'm not sure if this is good enough against Bronze though.

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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1087358#msg1087358
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2013, 05:25:39 pm »
Mine is similar, yet still has several differences.

-5 Bone Tower
+6 Death Pendulum

-1 Flesh Recluse
-4 Elite Mummy (Recluse beats these for hitting power, plus I need the room for other stuff.)
-1 Deadly Poison
+2 Ivory Dragon (Replacing the Mummies.  MUCH faster.)
+1 Arsenic
+2 Skull Buckler (You have no idea how many times these have saved my bacon.)

I use this effectively against AI3, AI4, Bronze, Silver, and Gold.  When things roll my way, I occasionally get a special spin in Plat.
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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1087380#msg1087380
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2013, 07:57:41 pm »
Skull Bucklers are definitely awesome in Mono-Deaths. I heard somewhere that the chance of an enemy creature turning into a skeleton is
1/(CreatureHP*2) , converted to percentile. Is that correct?

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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1087385#msg1087385
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2013, 08:16:22 pm »
I believe it's just 1/(Creature HP).  A critter with 2HP has a 1/2, or 50% chance to go Skellie.  Often lays waste to Crimson Dragon|Ruby Dragon.  :D
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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1087393#msg1087393
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2013, 08:41:49 pm »
No, it is 1/(2*HP). 1 HP has 50% chance, 2 HP has 25%, and so on.

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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1087399#msg1087399
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2013, 09:02:16 pm »
No, it is 1/(2*HP). 1 HP has 50% chance, 2 HP has 25%, and so on.
Apologies.  Thanks for the correction.  I've been using PDials so much lately that I've forgotten my own deck.  :P
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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1088944#msg1088944
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 10:49:54 pm »
i'm testing a similar deck and it has 96%win rate and ttw7 against lvl3

I tested with upped nymphs instead of dragons and i found it's slightly better.

I never tested with skull shields and against silver arena.

Upped sword works better against lvl3 and arsenic against the arena.Two weapons rarely overlap, and even when they do, it's still worth to have a back up in case of an explosion.

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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1088976#msg1088976
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2013, 02:18:40 am »
Firstly i've to say that rarely people who can afford a total upped deck farm ai3 and if so, they'll usually do it with a fast em deck like uusem (but i saw you talked about pvp, so nothing to say about the way the deck it's proposed), then i came to a little bit of testing because i didn't thought that silux version may do any better than this, with 7 ttw on average and in fact i made a 30 matches testing against lvl3 and got a 6.172... average ttw and 96.666...win percentage, so i won't say that silux version is better, (even if it can has a bit more of "control" with afla), but because doing it faster against lvl3, is what one aim for.
That said i agree with him on 1 thing, the dragons may be switched with 2 nymphs, for perfection, but being realistic we could say that the great majority of people doesn't have 2 death nymphs, especially upped.
In conclusion, yeah, nothing new, monodeath is so good, upped and not and that's another demonstration of it.
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Re: Upped Mono Death https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49576.msg1089109#msg1089109
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2013, 10:24:07 pm »
mr Blonde-jmdt deck is indeed a nice starting point, but it's not the best.
I can't post exactly all the decks i've gone trough, yet i have detailed stat about most of the variations.

damage with upped arsenic
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493930181594you should have won
damage with longsword
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4236302418126you should have won
Considering that longsword costs half of arsenic, and does almost the same damage, i prefer it, but sometimes arsenic is better because poison remains even after the weapon is destroyed, or much more probable when a phase shield arrives.

Poison is the most effective card in terms of reliability;can't be destroyed as mummies and spiders, and damage goes trough shields.

Dragons usually comes in to play after spiders or mummies, at turn 5.
They hit trough wings, and resist soft CC better, but they die to fire lances and maxwell demons.
Nymphs are much tougher, can't be paradoxed, aren't so dangerous when copied, are cheaper and have a soft CC attached.

Here is the deck i'm using right now.
221matches, win rate 95,04% ttw 7.3  standard deviation 1.1 (i didn't count the EM, but i can get them)
approximately 786 :electrum/hour, without card selling
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If you don't have nymphs but don't know where to put first money
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After upping half of the pillars/pendolums the TTW should improve by 0,5.
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