Da fastest monodeath

[Pyrodinium]

Currently going for this deck (already have recluses and upped towers) but with more muscle er... bones (3 dragons) to pierce through the Air AI's defense

[UnderneathTheLens]

Using the awesome Xeno simulator I made a 200 game simulation and had a 5.8 TTW, I tried 5 times and keep getting 5.8.
Awesome

I like this deck, so I did it too.

10000 games vs AI3

Player 1
Wins: 9713
Winrate: 97.13 %
Average TTW: 6.424276742510038

Player 2
Wins: 287
Winrate: 2.87 %
Average TTW: 9.961672473867596

[ralouf]

Yes I keep having 6.4 TTW now too, I gues that it come from something made in the last update..

[Joppe]

http://xenocidius.allalla.com/simulator/

^Link to the simulator if somebody is wondering.

Using the second deck with more Mummies and less Poisons I got
Wins: 911
Winrate: 91.1 %
Average TTW: 7.32821075740944
EMs: 236
EM rate: 25.905598243688253 %

I tried USEM deck for reference: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10563.0.html
Wins: 822
Winrate: 82.2 %
Average TTW: 9.306569343065693
EMs: 133
EM rate: 16.180048661800488 %


I'm a bit puzzled by this finding. How can a deck with no healing get more EMs than a deck with healing?

[Higurashi]

Slower -> take more damage. There's a breaking point where Elders get their strategy going, and it's usually around 7-9 turns. If you let them live that long, their strategies are actually pretty powerful.

[Poker Alho]

http://xenocidius.allalla.com/simulator/

^Link to the simulator if somebody is wondering.

Using the second deck with more Mummies and less Poisons I got
Wins: 911
Winrate: 91.1 %
Average TTW: 7.32821075740944
EMs: 236
EM rate: 25.905598243688253 %

I tried USEM deck for reference: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10563.0.html
Wins: 822
Winrate: 82.2 %
Average TTW: 9.306569343065693
EMs: 133
EM rate: 16.180048661800488 %


I'm a bit puzzled by this finding. How can a deck with no healing get more EMs than a deck with healing?

2 possible reasons for that:

1- AI is dumb compared to a player
2-there is still the possibility of ocurring a called statistic anomaly where there were an unusual high amount of games where the mono-death was fast enough to get EM and USEm had too much unlucky battles where it wasnt capable of getting EM

[Joppe]

Slower -> take more damage. There's a breaking point where Elders get their strategy going, and it's usually around 7-9 turns. If you let them live that long, their strategies are actually pretty powerful.

- It makes sense if we're only measuring speed and damage dealing potential. However I think the program doesn't try to get EM victories if it had chance to do so at last turn. I got only 16.18% EM rate, when in this thread USEM was measured to have 75.5% EM rate.

The program also gives higher turns to win, but perhaps this number is relative within the program.

[Higurashi]

Naturally. The simulator only works for pure rushes.

[Joppe]

I played 25 games in trainer against AI3. It's a fast, solid deck. I won all games, but only one of them the AI got so bad draw that it wasn't able to play any weapon or creature. I believe that simulator isn't accurate at all in predicting EMs. Author should be noted of this.

[Absol]

About simulator and EM:
One thing i noticed that AI never use any healing exceeding their max HP. So, if it have 85 hp for example, it won't use Heal. Even if it has 3 Heals in hand and would have won next turn (AI never waste any healing, thus reducing winrate and EM rate)

[ralouf]

Thanks for the testing and I'm glad you liked it, also I know that the simulator is.. a simulator hence it'll play worse than a human.

I had better results while playing it for real but didn't made enough games to gather stats so I used the simulator

[neuroleptics]

  it works in PvP. nice, the mummy makes reverse time impossible. not if it's done twice. well, though the creatures have fixed damage, the quanta consumption is pretty low too, that compensates it Btw, the stimulator ....if you press that over and over again, you'll notice how the TTW and the win rate fluctuates