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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1221083#msg1221083
« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2016, 03:26:23 pm »
Even if it cost 1 it'd be too slow for immo

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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1222397#msg1222397
« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2016, 05:11:24 pm »
Maybe adding a swiftness spell?
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1222401#msg1222401
« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2016, 05:16:45 pm »
Maybe adding a swiftness spell?
You mean Shard of Readiness?

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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1222492#msg1222492
« Reply #63 on: February 06, 2016, 09:48:04 am »
I mean shard of bounce
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1222892#msg1222892
« Reply #64 on: February 09, 2016, 05:51:52 am »
I mean shard of bounce
A single target spell of bounce is precisely similar enough to Quint that you would want to roughly double the card pool before adding it. This is why Fenghuang chose to differentiate itself.
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1222926#msg1222926
« Reply #65 on: February 09, 2016, 05:23:17 pm »
I mean shard of bounce
A single target spell of bounce is precisely similar enough to Quint that you would want to roughly double the card pool before adding it. This is why Fenghuang chose to differentiate itself.
Still think it's too slow... and yous till need replaying the card
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1222944#msg1222944
« Reply #66 on: February 09, 2016, 08:37:51 pm »
I mean shard of bounce
A single target spell of bounce is precisely similar enough to Quint that you would want to roughly double the card pool before adding it. This is why Fenghuang chose to differentiate itself.
Still think it's too slow... and yous till need replaying the card
Too slow for what? For immo fodder? Yes, it is too slow for that. However it is faster than Aether Nymph and Anubis in more ways than one.

As you recognized, you would not look to a targeting creature skill for immo fodder. Even a single target spell is iffy for immo fodder(we have 0-1 cost creatures for that). Ideally for immo you would have cheap immo resilient creatures. They should have limited to no other utility to avoid cost hikes and need to have fast turnaround times. However since you will need several to guarantee a draw, you will need them to have some value beyond being immo fodder. Minor Phoenix was really well designed for that purpose.

What do you mean by mentioning needing to replay the bounced creature? Are you implying a "bounce" spell(no need for a shard) would not put the creature in your hand?
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1223172#msg1223172
« Reply #67 on: February 10, 2016, 08:55:09 pm »
I mean maybe putting it into a bounce state where its ability temporary transforms into  (original cost)fall and that way the creature will still mantain the buffs, but could not use any ability, would be inmaterial and have 0 attack
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Re: Fenghuang | Fenghuang https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35710.msg1223251#msg1223251
« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2016, 05:49:22 am »
I mean maybe putting it into a bounce state where its ability temporary transforms into  (original cost)fall and that way the creature will still maintain the buffs, but could not use any ability, would be inmaterial and have 0 attack

That would be a different core concept since you are removing all the movement to/from the hand (consider Alpha Wolf or Congeal).
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